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Mage/Dark Wizard Help 2.0 Arcanist with Lunar Spine

Discussion in 'Class Builds' started by runsoccer, Sep 3, 2022.

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  1. runsoccer

    runsoccer Snail Mage Enthusiast

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    When 2.0 was in beta I was optimistic for the update changes for Lunar spine with the increased mana capacity, mana regen not being instant after 5 ish seconds, and mana steal no longer being a proc chance. When the public beta hit I drafted this build to try out and while it seemingly was functional for arcanist on paper with mild hpr and lifesteal It just wasn't working.

    https://hppeng-wynn.github.io/build...K40OH0QA1F0l0o1p111g0000102NlIzz++++-V-mtpVM4
    WynnBuilder build:
    > Aries
    > Far Cosmos
    > The Golem
    > Curador Boots
    > Hellion
    > Finesse
    > Prowess
    > Diamond Fusion Necklace
    > Lunar Spine [w6a6a6w6]

    Any ideas to workshop this build? Also probably my fault for trying to play it as it was in 1.20 so any recommendations on how to play with lunar spine in 2.0?
     
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  2. DeltaWave

    DeltaWave I miss cancelstack VIP

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    @starx280 , if you have done any testings with lunar, pls share with us
     
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    lemonalade [insert misinformation here] CHAMPION

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    Lunar spine Arcanist sounds cool tbh.

    I think Lunar Spine might be easier to use in 2.0 since mana regeneration is now constant (I haven't tested any builds with -mr though so I'm not sure how it would work)

    Very curious to see how this plays out
     
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  4. runsoccer

    runsoccer Snail Mage Enthusiast

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    From my limited test with it. If you got a lot of mobs around (like the church) its reasonably fine, plenty of mana to mana bank and mana steal from. If its a 1v1 might as well swap to another wand. also negative mr causes concentration to tick idk why but thats neat
     
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  5. SoulyHere

    SoulyHere She/Her

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    Yep gotta summon @starx280 for this one *draws summoning circle*
     
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    ThedumbOX I swear I’m straight HERO

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    you need to do the Lunar spine dance
     
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  7. syrun97

    syrun97 Well-Known Adventurer HERO

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    you can always reject arcanist and join riftwalker.

    imo riftwalker is viable even with sslow aspd because gust ability gives 1 winded per ice snake(played morph gaia lunar spine dualwield build in li).


    same builds but different ability tree
    with timelocked and devitalize

    https://hppeng-wynn.github.io/build...K40OH0QA1F0l0o1p111g0000102NlIzz++++-t+LXrzk3

    with orphions pulse

    https://hppeng-wynn.github.io/build...K40OH0QA1F0l0o1p111g0000102NlIzz++++-tszzT8T6
     
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    DeltaWave I miss cancelstack VIP

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    Idk if this is a thread for this, but i wanted to say that timelock is great for spamming heal, so orphions pulse is pretty optional for riftwalker
     
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  9. starx280

    starx280 The boy who cried lunar VIP

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    I did some testing and... yeah don’t play lunar with arcanist.

    this is the best I can do cause funny spellspam

    https://hppeng-wynn.github.io/builder#5_0690px0JL0q-0GQ0DU0Wf0OH0QA0n0j1u1M0o1g0000102KfIzz++++-
    WynnBuilder build:
    > Blue Mask
    > Time Rift
    > Greaves of the Veneer
    > Valhalla
    > Finesse
    > Darksteel Ring
    > Pandemonium
    > Diamond Fusion Necklace
    > Lunar Spine [w6w6w6w6]

    Aside from this, I really don’t think lunar works well with the new system... might need the ims to rebalance it :/
     
  10. runsoccer

    runsoccer Snail Mage Enthusiast

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    Sadge. Well thats unfortunate.. just when i was getting to prefer how lunar in 1.20 played. I personally feel it needs more mana steal. Getting only half a bar of mana or so when it fully drains as fast as it feels less than idea.

    Ill certainly try it with riftwalker whenever i get the chance/ability shards. I assume gaia was your main with lunar as a passive whenever you tried it out in LI?
     
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  11. starx280

    starx280 The boy who cried lunar VIP

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    I agree with more ms :D

    I want it to refill the whole bar again like it did it 1.20, cause that mana degen is even more deadly than before now
     
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    hmtn Archivist of the Realm VIP+

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    Hi yes it's most of the month later but here's a build (Breathless Arcanist) I've been peddling around for a while now:
    https://hppeng-wynn.github.io/build...0vJ00g0QA-Q1B0y-O131g0000102KfIzz++++-tL-Ft+B
    WynnBuilder build:
    > Boreal-Patterned Crown
    > Gaping Cavity
    > Efteling
    > Ornate Shadow Cloud
    > Finesse
    > Finesse
    > Breakthrough
    > Achromatic Gloom
    > Lunar Spine [w6w6w6w6]

    Lunar's skillfloor has gone way up this update, but once you get there it's a lot more consistent to use. Getting into the spell cycle needs a lot of buildup and requires you to be paying attention to Curse, Mana Bank, and Mana simultaneously, but once I got ramped up I was putting out about 110k dps.
    It's not great, (chaos explosion dmg bonus plz + glassier than glass), but Lunar Arcanist can work.
    [​IMG]
     
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