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Video 2.0 State of the Warrior

Discussion in 'Your Work' started by RenZenthio, Jul 24, 2022.

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  1. RenZenthio

    RenZenthio Murder the gods and topple their thrones! HERO

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    JaydonTheWarrior Nerf tanks, buff paladin.

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    My opinion on Warrior in 2.0 is that it has a lot of structural issues. Some of the Perks are amazing, Bakal's Graps is overturned even and both Uppercut upgrades on Monk not only feel good but play amazingly, however a large number of perks are nearly useless, placed poorly or actively detrimental. The base spells for example are mostly lacking, Bash feels slow and clunky, Warscream's buffs are far too short and pulling by default more often gets you killed, and Uppercut is probably the single worst spell ever designed and is actively unusable without the Monk upgrades. It worth noteing that I'm not saying it's unusable, certain (kinda op) perks make it more then viable, but it's not exactly ideal to have a handful of perks be so strong they carry the rest of the archetype.

    There are other issues (Alot of issues) and I was making a thread documenting all of them, but I've started working on my "Let's fix Warrior 2, Electric Boogaloo" thread instead.
     
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    RenZenthio Murder the gods and topple their thrones! HERO

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    Fantastic assessment in my book. Bash to me is only usable to proc radiance and boiling blood (Or to reset my spell cycle), I almost always try to use a double uppercut cycle. Ragna upgrade increased the damage buff atleast, idk about the defense buff, but it doesn't seem too terrible of a change to me. Yeah, uppercut is kinda painful. I think it's alright for what they want warrior to be, but they definitely need to fix the hitbox. But yeah, I think monk hybrid is the only archetypes worth using.

    Flying kick to me is the absolute worst offender. Though war scream pull is pretty bad, I guess I forgot to mention that, but the pull REALLY needs to be toggleable. To hear a hyper tank player like you even think it could get you killed definitely says something about how bad it is.
     
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    Epicness937 Thesead water god. HERO

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    I agree with alot of this. I think to me each of the archetypes have one or two major issues.

    Fallen in my opinion if Intoxicating Blood gets reworked to be functional and Bloodpact gets a significant buff it would be golden. Maybe even a bit too strong perhaps.

    Monk and Paladin are both awesome I just think some of the final abilities suck. Discombobulate, Cyclone, Tempest, Thunderclap, Second Chance, Martyr, Sparkling hope, Shield Strike. All these abilities are just garbage and it's just better to build half Paladin and half Monk most of the time. Also Flying Kick...

    I also just dislike the class' base defense nerf it just is so dumb to me.

    Good video overall. I agree with most of it.
     
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    JaydonTheWarrior Nerf tanks, buff paladin.

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    I have seven Warriors, and one of them is a hyper tank, I've been having issues with Warscream pulling on my other Warriors rather than my hyper tank, actually on exactly my hyper tank build it really helps pull things into Uppercut as well as away from other players, otherwise, it's gotten me killed on everything else.
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    Honestly, sometimes it feels like other people forget I have other Warriors.

    I'm assuming you mean Monk Fallen hybrid?
    I legit mentally think there are only two ways to build Warrior right now, and that's Monk Fallen hybrid and full Paladin, and even then Paladin only works when you have a full tank build.
    I've been trying to think of other ways around it and I can't. Taking full Monk makes charge terrible, and on the other hand, if you don't take Monk, Uppercut will suck and you end up taking way too much damage.
     
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    RenZenthio Murder the gods and topple their thrones! HERO

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    Fallen battle monk, and paladin battle monk, this tree is cool for instance (you can drop Mythril skin or mantle or whatever for provoke)
    https://hppeng-wynn.github.io/build...2SN0Qi0K0000002C1g00001037lOzz++++-ldNncfCfi1
    WynnBuilder build:
    > No Helmet
    > No Chestplate
    > No Leggings
    > No Boots
    > No Ring 1
    > No Ring 2
    > No Bracelet
    > No Necklace
    > Hero [f6a6a6f6]
     
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    JaydonTheWarrior Nerf tanks, buff paladin.

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    I would personally give just about anything to not have flying kick.
    This is the one I came up with:

    https://hppeng-wynn.github.io/builder#7_2SG2SH2SI2SJ2SK2SL2SM2SN0Qi0K0000002C1g00000zz++++-jdhUuUC
    WynnBuilder build:
    > No Helmet
    > No Chestplate
    > No Leggings
    > No Boots
    > No Ring 1
    > No Ring 2
    > No Bracelet
    > No Necklace
    > Hero []

    This is the minimal version, what you take beyond that is kinda up to you.
     
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