Assassin/Ninja Nirvana build questions

1. How much ms do I need for full ms/mixed mana nirvana build?
2. How much mr do I need for full mr nirvana build? (I know mr nirvana sucks but just curious)
3. Is there a no mythic boots build that can works as good as a build with one?
4. This is a nirvana build used by Glazer:
https://hppeng-wynn.github.io/index.html#4_0u40RZ0r50Qx0TQ0qo0K40og0Qm0o112M1M+e1g00001004fI
WynnBuilder build:
> Guillotine
> Medeis
> Vaward
> Stardew
> Draoi Fair
> Unspeakable
> Prowess
> Tenuto
> Nirvana [w6w6w6]
Is it possible to have more ehp without killing sustain?
Ty

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@Kon sry for mentioning you but I want to hear some opinions from an actual nirvana user.

 

1. I can sustain with 4/5 mr 5/3 ms but you can definitely sustain with less(2/5, 4/3 maybe)
2.id say 7 mr is enough to sustain, its really hard to know for sure without trying it out
3. I personally use trift due to it being quite a bit better than nontrift from my experience but some people say nontrift is good too

Honestly i can survive just fine even with 20k ehp on both li and raids(sometimes die to orphion due to multihit) and assassin has access to vanish which makes it a lot easier than archer

I have tried building nirvana for more ehp without sacrificing damage and i was unable to

Maybe try this
https://hppeng-wynn.github.io/index.html#4_0u40RZ0r50k50TQ0Og0OJ0og0Qm0o0x2M1I+Z1g00001004fI
WynnBuilder build:
> Guillotine
> Medeis
> Vaward
> Sapphire
> Draoi Fair
> Gold Solar Ring
> Diamond Hydro Bracelet
> Tenuto
> Nirvana [w6w6w6]

 

tysm
I actually never played spellsteal on assassin after hitting lv 100... Maybe ill try the playstyle first with a black spell build that have similar ehp of some nirvana builds (20k+ ehp).

 

Try any etw assassin build, its lower ehp and lower dps but it could help you get better at assassin

 

I'm thinking of this build to have a taste of spellsteal assassin
Honestly I'm really afraid of dying especially I'm used to tstack builds that have 60k+ ehp & greed...
https://wynnbuilder.github.io/#4_0u40RZ0Jh0uD0t80TQ0K40og05n0o151f1G+Y1g000010066O
WynnBuilder build:
> Guillotine
> Medeis
> Cinderchain
> Magnet Repulsor
> Yang
> Draoi Fair
> Prowess
> Tenuto
> Black [f6t6f6]

 

Yea it takes some getting used to but its super fun once you get the hang of it

When i was lesrning with grimtrap i had a lack of sp always and even ended up going into debt due to ticket cost :p

Also maybe try this if you have tomes
https://wynnbuilder.github.io/#4_0u40RZ0Jh0I60K00TQ0OJ0og05n0o151h13+T1g000010066O
WynnBuilder build:
> Guillotine
> Medeis
> Cinderchain
> Frenzied Mockery
> Intensity
> Draoi Fair
> Diamond Hydro Bracelet
> Tenuto
> Black [f6t6f6]

 

i would say 7-8 total mana is enough to sustain with nirv
changed some items from kon's build
https://hppeng-wynn.github.io/index.html#4_0u40RZ0r50Aw0TQ0K00OJ0og0Qm0o0x2M1O+Z1g00001004fI
WynnBuilder build:
> Guillotine
> Medeis
> Vaward
> Curador Boots
> Draoi Fair
> Intensity
> Diamond Hydro Bracelet
> Tenuto
> Nirvana [w6w6w6]
also here is my build that has some nice hpr in it (lower dmg tho)
https://hppeng-wynn.github.io/index.html#4_07R0RZ0u50Aw0TQ0K00OJ0og0Qm0P0t2M1k001g00001004fI
WynnBuilder build:
> Cancer֎
> Medeis
> Adrenaline
> Curador Boots
> Draoi Fair
> Intensity
> Diamond Hydro Bracelet
> Tenuto
> Nirvana [w6w6w6]

 

Turns out I’m very bad at play assassin spell itself... haha... (I can only do at most 30k dps and frequently mess up spell cycle and can’t sustain mana cus I forgot to melee)
Seems assassin spell mythic is not a good option for me.
Thanks for the ideas though.

 

that build doesn't have enough sustain in the first place

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https://hppeng-wynn.github.io/index.html#4_07R0px0JL0K50K00TQ0OJ0OM0Qm0c002W1z001g00001004fI
WynnBuilder build:
> Cancer֎
> Time Rift
> Greaves of the Veneer
> Silt of the Seafloor
> Intensity
> Draoi Fair
> Diamond Hydro Bracelet
> Diamond Hydro Necklace
> Nirvana [w6w6w6]
could certaintly try this, damage halved but very high ehp so it's a good build to get used to mr assassin
no sslow tho

 

Was this with mythics?
Even i do god awful dps with non mythics...
Spell cycling doesnt matter too much as long as you are using vanish
Like i personally use vanish->smoke->spin->spin/multi->spin->vanish

You dont need to sit on the mob for damage, just go in for quick cycles and vanish out

I basically melee once a cycle and thats at the beginning(just after smoke bomb) and regain from minions

 

I’m trying with the black build i posted. I just really have issues when spell cycling.