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Shop Unidentified Items

Discussion in 'Trade Market' started by Qzphs, Nov 21, 2021.

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  1. Qzphs

    Qzphs Unskilled Adventurer VIP+

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    All items are 4eb per unless listed otherwise. Discord: Qzphs#3898.


    Armour

    Blue Mask: 24eb
    Gale's Sight: 16eb
    Pisces
    Third Eye


    Demon Tide
    Second Wind: 16eb

    Ex Nihilo (2x)
    Magnet Repulsor
    Passus Lux (2x)
    Steamjet Walkers



    Accessories

    Atlas (5x)
    Euouae (2x)
    : 16eb
    Momentum (2x)
    Squid Anklet: 32eb

    Metamorphosis (2x)


    Weapons

    Bedruthan (3x)

    Ethereal
    Afterimage


    Blossom Haze

    Cryoseism
    Narcissist
    Tachypsychia
     
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    Qzphs Unskilled Adventurer VIP+

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    swapped most of the items around
     
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    chewies i like purple box VIP+

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    Unless it’s a mythic, unidentified items are basically worth nothing, just try to roll them and see if you get any sellable items, everything else just sell to blacksmith.
     
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    Qzphs Unskilled Adventurer VIP+

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    the reason i bothered to offer them on forums in the first place is because of the overwhelming success i found on the in-game market. the odds of rolling well are so low that the consistent 4-8eb sales of unidentified versions turn up better profits.
     
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    chewies i like purple box VIP+

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    The issue is that these 4-8eb sales are not worth the amount of time that it takes to sell them.

    Since you are VIP, you have 10 market slots. Let's assume that you can sell 10 of these items a day for 8eb per, that's 80eb a day. Now if you rolled all of these items, selling only the really good ones, you could maybe roll 1-2 items a day that can sell for 1le+. That's already more than what you make from selling unided items and you can also sell other items on the side.
     
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    Qzphs Unskilled Adventurer VIP+

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    there's two problems with this assumption.

    first, multiple items can be stacked into the same transaction. for example, i could sell 5 spectral slingshots in the same slot, and turn a much higher profit than you're currently suggesting. the same principle 'applies' to forum trades as well, since buyers tend to buy multiple items at once.

    second, market slots can be reused once an item is sold. i've had a bulk sale of nearly 30 items through about 3 slots because someone on the other end was buying every listing immediately.

    how good would you have to roll to hit 1le+? something like a 6mr aqua certainly isn't selling for that. neither would any aphotic below about 63%sd. in fact, even an 3ms 80%+ overall cluster failed to sell for 32eb over a 2-week time period. you might be right, but my experience selling rolled items has been significantly less consistent.
     
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    chewies i like purple box VIP+

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    You're not rolling the right items, you need good rolls on meta items, not just any random legendary. Aphotic sells for less than 1le for a 100%sd one, so it's nearly worthless to roll, cluster is also useless compared to other bows

    In addition, the items you listed are barely worth anything even for good rolls, the only potentially valuable ones from my experience are gale’s sight, altas, magnet repulsor, and third eye

    Unidentified blue mask is literally worth negative money, it has no rollable stats anyway
     
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    Qzphs Unskilled Adventurer VIP+

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    i'll accept your point in general. the legendaries aren't random; they're skewed to be less than ideal. some meta items like capricorn will never appear here since i roll them for personal use. a lot of meta items are also not legendary and therefore infeasible to sell unidentified. i still think that despite these caveats, the concept of selling legendaries unidentified is profitable; i just need to be selling the right ones, as you point out.

    i hard disagree on blue mask in particular. you can convince me of this when i stop seeing low-level players kill themselves using clearly suboptimal builds.

    i lost most of the best items in my shop right before you posted for the first time, making 6.25le. seeing four listings that you can respect isn't that bad in my eyes. i'll swap out the worse items later, since i wrongly believed that they were useful at the time.
     
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    Toaster He/Him CHAMPION

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    but none of the stats on blue mask change; rerolling does nothing, therefore it's pointless to have it unidentified
    the skill points are static, what else can we say
    the point isn't that blue mask is worth nothing, it's that there's no point to selling it unidentified when rolls don't change it
     
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    Qzphs Unskilled Adventurer VIP+

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    it's cheaper than the rolled ones on market (at the time i listed it; i'll have to update the price) and i don't have to pay the id cost myself
     
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