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Announcement Nov. 2021 - News From The Content Team

Discussion in 'News & Patches' started by AfroSnail, Oct 23, 2021.

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  1. Fox

    Fox Fox

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    You can look at Grian's old videos to see various of his building techniques he used in wynncraft. That was a huge part of his channel before he reached to 1 million subs lol.
     
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    nip nop thinking hurts CHAMPION

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    WithTheFish Internet Macrocelebrity CHAMPION

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    I think a lot of people would call larger structures featured on this thread the EO style: https://forums.wynncraft.com/threads/the-wynncraft-build-style-situation.295826/
     
  4. P0ke

    P0ke Wynntils Dev CHAMPION

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    not a big fan of new thesead, not because i think the build is bad but because i don't think it fits thematically. thesead is a coal mining town up in the mountains; it's certainly not poor but it's no vibrant commerce/travel hub like cinfras. its OST is called "hard work alone" for god's sake - the atmosphere of the town should place function over form and overall be much more somber. variety is important not just for the sake of having unique styles to look at but as an aspect of world building, and this does the opposite
     
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  5. Quint

    Quint least estrogenated scripter HERO

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    oh god. now i need to do work
     
  6. Astraviator

    Astraviator Block Placer and Lore Contest-er VIP+ ✎ Artist Builder

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    Honestly the shadered pic from above makes it look a lot more colorful than it is in person - just something to keep in mind.
     
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  7. JaydonTheWarrior

    JaydonTheWarrior Nerf tanks, buff warrior. HERO

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    This style change has existed far before EO, which, to clearify to the both of us is:
    - Blocker shapes in builds.
    - Less texture on surfaces.

    This creates, a, for lack of better words, smooth, looking build style, which has existed since the Ragni rework.

    This however is a more structural style change, it doesn't affect the architectural level of builds whats so ever. Its more accurate to akin it to say, Wynns old rustic style, which is what I assume you mean by "Grains Style"

    Either way this is clearly not what people are refreing to when they say the EO style, as there are plenty of examples of this style of build that people wouldn't say is in the EO style. (Detlas, Ragni, Elkurn, so on.)

    This is just plan out inaccurate, I never suggested all pillars are the same, or suggested it was in fact a reason for anything.

    I stated, to be clear, this:
    "The closest I have seen is someone suggesting it involves pillars, which are such a wide spread element of architecture that it would be more then slightly unreasonable to suggest its a part of the "EO style."'

    I never suggested all pillars are the same, I said they were wide spread, which they are.
    In fact, as you pointed out, there are different styles of pillars, which is in fact in service to my argument that a build having pillars does not make it the EO style.
     
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  8. P0ke

    P0ke Wynntils Dev CHAMPION

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    it might be a good idea for the content team to post updates with screenshots that accurately depict builds from a player's point of view, then
     
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  9. ShadowGamer1616

    ShadowGamer1616 Travelled Adventurer

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    yooo poggers
     
  10. RamonaFlowers

    RamonaFlowers Subspace Delivery Girl CHAMPION

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    What Redwaller said below:
    EO style is not unique to Wynn. In the industry it’s what we call the “2020 build style”. It’s used everywhere - from your tiny factions server spawns to Hypixel lobbies. It’s characterized by megastructures or disproportionally-sized buildings with more emphasis on color rather than outright detail. The purpose of the new style is to convey a sense of awe that a large building would give, with added depth and contrasting colors for added effect. In layman’s terms, a large structure that looks aesthetically pleasing, awesome, and easy for your brain to absorb at the same time.

    Something that can be comparable to the basic features of EO style builds would be neoclassical architecture. In its simplest forms, both architectures emphasize on horizontal and vertical qualities, which is why you might find the pillars to be such an outstanding feature in EO style builds. You’re not wrong, pillars are indeed a key characteristic of neoclassicism - but a more glaring example is the concept of flatness. Where there isn’t detail, the buildings have smooth, flat walls. Gone are the days of spamming slabs and fences on walls, removing them and adding a color gradient looks much better. Back to pillars - pillars allow buildings to be stacked up easier, which provides both EO style buildings and buildings such as the Paris Panthéon and the Helsinki Cathedral that megastructure-y feel.

    For all its worth, the new wave of Eldritch Outlook styled builds is basically monumental architecture but colorful. It’s like if neoclassical architecture and traditional Taiwanese architecture had a baby. It’s not ugly per se, but in our current case it has become so overused both inside and outside of Wynn that you can’t help but think what would have been done if we were only given three or four color choices to build with as it were in 2014 to 2016.
     
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  11. JaydonTheWarrior

    JaydonTheWarrior Nerf tanks, buff warrior. HERO

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    The issue with this is that there are multiple examples given by multiple people that don't follow this such as this:
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    These are both examples given by Senior top hat in this thread:
    https://forums.wynncraft.com/threads/the-wynncraft-build-style-situation.295826/


    As for this, giving Cinfras as a prime example, this is true for Cinfras entrance.
    Specifically this Gate:
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    And, in fact, all of the Guild Hall.

    However, that being said, it isn't true for the rest of Cinfras.
    The actual town of Cinfras doesn't follow neoclassicism, at all.
    And in fact, neither do the other two examples I listed from Senior top hats thread or in fact, your own example of Buice also does not follow this.
    This pretty much whips out the idea that the "EO style" is in fact neoclassicism architecture, and is not in fact what people are referring to.


    As for this, the removal of slab spam, the adding of smooth and flat walls, and color gradients are, in fact, an overarching build style change.
    These things are true of almost all new builds since 1.17, some examples of this being true in builds are the following:
    Detlas, Ragni, Elkurn, Troms, Gelibord, Maltic, etc.
    None of which, or generally most of which aren't listed as having the "EO style"

    Simply put, none of this is consistently true with every town described to have the "EO style"
    Now, I realize that these examples are being given by different people, but that's the big issue,
    there is not an agreed definition that works with every example someone may have of the EO style, and to be blunt with you, I don't think there ever will be one because I don't think it's an issue that actually exists.

    I think what happened is some people noticed similarities between a couple of different builds in Gavel and EO. (Not an overall style, but similarities)
    Since then, it's become some boogie man that consumes up pretty much anything that is built.
    What people are actually seeing is the new build style, and then literally any similarity to EO they can find (Notably not with each other, but just EO) and then calling it the EO build style.
    Meaning, basically 60% of everything built in the new style will be called EO style.
    It's kinda the something that happened with Corkus, for some odd reason everything that uses Bricks, no matter where or how is said to have the "Corkus" style.
     
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  12. DaCorruption

    DaCorruption Serves Dern.

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    CT be like
    hey here's a weird ass screenshot that is virtually impossible to decode
    now here's the most gorgeous build you've ever seen
    oh and some prof changes
    okay bye see you in 2042
     
  13. TotalTelemetry

    TotalTelemetry Well-Known Adventurer

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    These builds look Amazing!
    I especially like the Guild Tower rework!

    Keep it up, guys!
    You're doing great!
     
  14. Sg_Voltage

    Sg_Voltage 1.18 was the best update, don't @me CHAMPION

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    Strongly agree that the EO style thing isn't a real issue, especially in this case, Thesead is the closest normal city to Cinfras (maybe Thanos is a little closer but it's also kind of its own thing), I would expect it to share a lot of similar design language so if anything, it's the Cinfras style and I think it's great because of it.

    Also calling stuff the "EO style" is just lazy criticism, if you have an issue with the build say what the issue is. Don't like the architecture or the colors? Then say that instead, just saying it looks like EO (which is a great looking build) doesn't help anyone make improvements because as you said, there's no agreed definition for what that actually means and there never will be.
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    I would argue it should have a similar design to Cinfras, it's located in a very similar area so it would be made of the same materials and is inhabited by similar people so it would make sense for a lot of the architecture to be similar as well. Based on the path design being very gray and open I think the city is going to feel much more muted from the ground too which should be good for a coal town but we'll have to wait and see how it looks when the beta drops at some point.
     
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  15. That_Chudley

    That_Chudley Wynncraft Addict HERO

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    Kinda looks like an underwater form of plant life.

    Considering that there's new swimming mechanics for exploration, I'm guessing that there are some kind of coral reefs (a part of it is that picture?) across the ocean that may have some small purpose?
     
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    Nynnf Well-Known Adventurer CHAMPION

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    Thesead though
     
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    Wo2wz_ Cancer Premium™ VIP

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    profs are less pain now?? pog
     
  18. Aya

    Aya Very Serious Gensokyo Journalist HERO

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    I unironically thought it was Cinfras at first, then I realized it was Thesead.
    That's how similar it is to Cinfras.
    I mean, it still looks great but yeah, it definitely is yet another Cinfras/EO kinda city
    It looks good but they might be overdoing it a bit at this point
    I guess I'll look at the picture more to see if I can see bigger differences, but the fact that my mind went to Cinfras during the first 5 seconds I spent looking at the pic makes me think that maybe it is a bit too similar.
     
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  19. MlecznyHuxel99

    MlecznyHuxel99 Fruman walls guy VIP+

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    Im happy Im not the only one lol
     
  20. TaintedL1on

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    So for the gathering spots, do bulk gather nodes give less GXP than the grind spots?
     
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