Any Class Help Build Feedback/help Please

Recently I've been struggling with end-game content because I'm only now realizing that the meta nowdays mostly is 3 elements. I'll link all my builds and I'd appreciate if you would give me better items acc to my suggestions.

Note: No crafted or mythics for either one please (except stardew/warchief because I have those two but they're not great)

- Current Mage build: https://wynnbuilder.github.io/#4_0lS0px0kQ0Jq0OK0Oc0TN0Ol0VG0e-Y250t-Y1g000010006C

If possible, something along the lines of a mostly water build that can handle most end-game content with Nepta/king of hearts being my 2 weapons bneing used


- Current Archer build: https://wynnbuilder.github.io/#4_0pc09 0jn0nB0K00K20KI0860IS000b1V001s1g000010036C

Something along the lines of Water/Air/Fire being the 3 elements I want in this build with Gale's force being my main weapon but I want something that can be slightly more tanky than that and maybe something that can do more damage if possible.


- Current Assassin build: https://wynnbuilder.github.io/#4_0XL0Jb0r507W0WA0WA0OC0BR0Jw1g0g1D061D1g000010OnZ6

I don't like this build too much because hive dagger isn't great and I take dmg way too quickly so a build with like Earth,Thunder, and maybe Fire would be fine to me.

 

Hello! Here are my attempts at improved the builds you provided:

Spoiler: Mage

I started by building WFA but I couldn't live with the atrociously low damage. I feel that building WFA offensively just defeats the point of using double defensive elements in the first place. I ended up slapping together TWFA; this build requires 1 skill point tome of any element but strength.
https://wynnbuilder.github.io/index.html#4_07R0RZ0u50Wi09q09q0TN0og0VG+T0x1f1V0o1g000010009I
WynnBuilder build:
> Cancer֎
> Medeis
> Adrenaline
> Dragon Dance
> Black Catalyst
> Black Catalyst
> Dragon's Eye Bracelet
> Tenuto
> Nepta Floodbringer [w6w6]

Spoiler: Archer

I opened and worked on your archer build before reading your specific requests so here's an improved TWA build ^-^. I slapped atlas to lower the attack speed to super slow as less clicking is more comfortable for charging your weapon's powder special. A6W6W6 powders gives Curse which is a very nice DPS boost which should be constant if you consistently land melee attacks.
https://hppeng-wynn.github.io/index.html#4_0Au09-0D407W09q09q02d0OM0IS001321002M1g00001004fU
WynnBuilder build:
> Cumulonimbus
> Conduit of Spirit
> Dark Shroud
> Capricorn
> Black Catalyst
> Black Catalyst
> Atlas
> Diamond Hydro Necklace
> Gale's Force [a6w6w6]

Gale's Force in itself is already fairly weak when compared to its fellow endgame bows (e.g Orange Lily or Cluster) so unfortunately WFA is going to suffer from lower damage output. Here's my attempt at WFA though (same powder special concept as former build):
https://hppeng-wynn.github.io/#4_0qn0dL0Jl07W09q09q02d0OM0IS-Y-f1h0w1c1g00001007lU
WynnBuilder build:
> Unravel
> Starglass
> Eden-Blessed Guards
> Capricorn
> Black Catalyst
> Black Catalyst
> Atlas
> Diamond Hydro Necklace
> Gale's Force [a6a6a6]

Spoiler: Assassin

ETF doesn't have much potential for spell (no intelligence - although it's possible thanks to negative spell cost items such as Cardiac Arrest and Demon Tide). I don't think ETWF will get much tankier without sacrificing a chunk of damage so I decided to hook you up with classic TWF Black. First more offensive and second is more defensive (both get a giant EHP boost if you use agility pots):
https://wynnbuilder.github.io/#4_0So0RZ0Jh0I609q09q0Of0og05n00101f1Y001g000010036C
WynnBuilder build:
> Myelin
> Medeis
> Cinderchain
> Frenzied Mockery
> Black Catalyst
> Black Catalyst
> Gold Hydro Bracelet
> Tenuto
> Black [t6t6t6]

https://wynnbuilder.github.io/#4_07R0RZ0u50Aw09q09q0K40og05n050t1f2H051g00001006CC
WynnBuilder build:
> Cancer֎
> Medeis
> Adrenaline
> Curador Boots
> Black Catalyst
> Black Catalyst
> Prowess
> Tenuto
> Black [t6f6f6]

This took me a hot minute as I wanted to check and try to improve these builds rather than blindly copy and paste them. Hope you enjoy!

 

Yoooo tysm dude. pretty much all these builds you gave me are perfect for what I like and as for the Assassin part, i meant to say EWF instead of ETF but you ended up doing what I was hoping with it anyway. You're amazing! Also feel free to remove the Gale's Force from the build as if necessary, I will drop it in exchange for something better.

 

fcos olily
WynnBuilder build:
> Cancer֎
> Far Cosmos
> Rainbow Sanctuary
> Capricorn
> Draoi Fair
> Moon Pool Circlet
> Prowess
> Diamond Fusion Necklace
> Orange Lily [w6w6w6]

cdd cluster
WynnBuilder build:
> Cumulonimbus
> Medeis
> Ornate Shadow Cover
> Dragon Dance
> Black Catalyst
> Black Catalyst
> Dragon's Eye Bracelet
> Contrast
> Cluster [f6f6t6t6]

(i'm blindly copypasting btw lmk if you want some specific alteration)

 

It is not due to 3 elements. Your builds are not tanky enough.

You do not need exceptional DPS to do raids as there is no real DPS check, you do need a proper base tankiness.

I recommend at least 40k eHP no agility for TCC. People will argue that that is enough, but it will still feel very uncomfortable, unless you properly use range (Mage, Archer), defensive methods (Assassin using Vanish to deaggro mobs) or layer it with extra Agility.

Take this in mind when people present builds to you.

Here is a tanky Peaceful Rest build I made a while ago for someone who wanted to do raids:

https://hppeng-wynn.github.io/index...TN0OP0A400001f1n1D1g1000CO1000CO01000CO1006CO

You could swap Fire powders for Water powders to make it a Fire/Water hybrid build.