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Assassin/Ninja "inferno Sucks." "buff Inferno." Silence

Discussion in 'Class Builds' started by 9o62, Mar 10, 2021.

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  1. 9o62

    9o62 Well-Known Adventurer Builder

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  2. DeltaWave

    DeltaWave I miss cancelstack VIP

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    the mana steal is too low, if you can get it to around 9 is good
     
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    9o62 Well-Known Adventurer Builder

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    You can put curador boots for 8/4s ms but then the damage is lower then black though not sure if you'd need 10/4s mixed mana at 1/1 costs
     
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    DeltaWave I miss cancelstack VIP

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  6. shtnck eyh ckhhe

    shtnck eyh ckhhe Jesus of Nether-eth

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    so you then say that its not as good as black? ok
     
  7. JerryIsBad

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    From what I can tell from messing around with it a little with builds:

    Inferno pretty awkward to build with having negative health regen, no life steal and no mana steal or mana regen and the defense stats attached aren't especially impressive. It certainly has more raw stats than Black.

    Black can't effectively reach the higher damage of Inferno pretty much entirely because conflagrate exists but in practical builds it seems to me that Black is both easier to build with and gets better results.
     
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    shtnck eyh ckhhe Jesus of Nether-eth

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    9o62 Well-Known Adventurer Builder

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    He wanted more mana sustain so I put curador boots in though mrepulsor can work too and would probably would be better to use that. And inferno is probably still stronger then black too if i can remember.
    https://wynnbuilder.github.io/#4_09D0JX0u50Aw09q09q02d0uI0Qh-Y0j1429-Y1g00001006CO
    WynnBuilder build:
    > Conflagrate
    > Anima-Infused Cuirass
    > Adrenaline
    > Curador Boots
    > Black Catalyst
    > Black Catalyst
    > Atlas
    > Eyes on All
    > Inferno [f6f6f6]

    Probably better but yeah (You can put tenuto too and still has nice stats).
    https://wynnbuilder.github.io/#4_09D0JX0u50tv09q09q02d0uI0Qh-Y0j1421-Y1g00001006CO this can probably work if you want mana sustain. Magnet Repulsor with Gigabyte can work also. Your build works too if you want but a build reliant on an sp tome feels weird.

    Edit: I'd recommend tempore with eyes on all
     
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  10. hppeng

    hppeng 0 intel is the correct amount of intel HERO

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    It really depends what spell cycle you're going for. If you do like vanish-multi-spin-loop or something like that yes 1/1 6/4 might be enough, but you just lose dps so yes you have bigger numbers but no your build isn't going to be better

    My assassin is 1/0/2/1 costs and I run vanish-spin-multi-spin-spin loop (1/1/2/1/1) with 13ms 2mr, and it is just barely enough; only has 7k spin base but compared to 8k spins with less spells cast its almost surely higher dps

    not to mention OP's build is lower on sustain compared to this one, I don't think inferno is overpowered at all no, possibly still slightly undertuned.
     
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    •WhiteWolf• Traumatised. HERO

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    https://wynnbuilder.github.io/#4_09D0JX0u50Aw09q09q0Of0og0Qh-Y0i1K1+-Y1g10003610003601003361006CO
    WynnBuilder build:
    > Conflagrate
    > Anima-Infused Cuirass
    > Adrenaline
    > Curador Boots
    > Black Catalyst
    > Black Catalyst
    > Gold Hydro Bracelet
    > Tenuto
    > Inferno [f6f6f6]
    y'all are sleeping on gold hydro. wih tomes you can also get 94 int not that it matters much. Eyes on all if you can't hit optimum mana

    https://wynnbuilder.github.io/#4_09D0qc0u50Aw09q09q0Of0og0Qh070n1f1+001g10003610003601003361006CO
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    > Conflagrate
    > Umbral Mail
    > Adrenaline
    > Curador Boots
    > Black Catalyst
    > Black Catalyst
    > Gold Hydro Bracelet
    > Tenuto
    > Inferno [f6f6f6]
    this has better steals and slightly more dmg too. needs 7 sp in tomes

    https://wynnbuilder.github.io/#4_09D0RZ0u50Aw09q09q0OJ0og0Qh000s1h1+001g10003610003601003361006CO
    WynnBuilder build:
    > Conflagrate
    > Medeis
    > Adrenaline
    > Curador Boots
    > Black Catalyst
    > Black Catalyst
    > Diamond Hydro Bracelet
    > Tenuto
    > Inferno [f6f6f6]
    this also exists for those who want godly dps. enjoy getting oneshot by death metal however
     
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  12. 9o62

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    After a bit i have realized Curador Boots is better then Frenzied mainly because of the MS and also GHB for bracelet (Gold Hydro Bracelet) and with Tenuto (which is @Diamond_Laser's build but yeah it works nice.
     
  13. reithal_yeet

    reithal_yeet I make builds, both good and bad

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    Arent all of these builds very glassy
     
  14. hppeng

    hppeng 0 intel is the correct amount of intel HERO

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    30k+ ehp is in the middling zone - not tank but not glass
     
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    •WhiteWolf• Traumatised. HERO

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    > fire mythic
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    not really. also remember that vanish exists so you're not facetanking hits like other def heavy builds
     
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    If you call 48k EHP "very glassy", with ETW you may as well call challenges practically impossible (though it is, just very hard to do) as it has like 14k EHP
     
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