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SPOILER Theory: The Dern Beast Is A Dragon V2

Discussion in 'Wynncraft' started by Samsam101, Feb 10, 2021.

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  1. Samsam101

    Samsam101 Star Walker GM CHAMPION

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    Last year, I made a thread covering a theory I had that the dern beast was a dragon. There was hardly any evidence and the evidence it had was very fragile. For instance, I said that Orphion was a dog in that thread without a single drop of evidence. That turned out to be true funnily enough. Now, I will make a theory about the Dern beast being a dragon, this time with more evidence.

    Introduction
    The Dern beast is a very mysterious character, one who we don't know the name or gender of. However, a new piece of evidence has recently come out for the gender side of things. When you beat Orphion's Nexus of Light for the first time, Orphion will actually talk to you. He says ''you have to defeat her''. This implies that a big contender in the WotR (war of the realms) is female. But who? My theory suggests that the Dern Beast is actually a female dragon. Here's a list of things that I think provide evidence. I'll show how confident I am in their content by the colour of the subtitle.

    Silent expanse's secret
    In the discovery ''Silent expanse's secret'' we get our first look at an attached body part of the Dernic Beast. It's a flashback of the Eye being ripped out in order to be placed in EO. The beast's arm is black and grey, which is our first piece of evidence (go there and notice how it's a clawed hand, like that of a dragon)
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    Not only that, but the room seems to stretch a little further back, potentially showing that this is not a throne, but a slab for something to lay on. If it was a throne, don't you think we'd see both of its legs and not just its arms? The back wall too?
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    (By that I meant it was cloaked by the shadows since we're not meant to see it yet)
    Also the Eye is purple like the Ender dragon's eye.

    Dragon's eye bracelet
    This one is hard to believe but I feel as though the dragon's eye bracelet may be named after The Eye and how it belonged to a dragon.

    Links between The End from vanilla minecraft and Dern
    The End in vanilla minecraft is the final dimension in which you slay the Ender Dragon and beat minecraft. Supposedly Dern would also be a dimension in which you slay a dragon. Judging from the Talking Mushroom's old dialogue from the End Portal in the abandoned mines and how that portal is blocked off as of 1.20, the End was originally planned to be a major location in Wynn before being replaced with Dern. They share multiple similarities, such as the themes of black and purple as well as eyes being a common theme.

    The 4 eggs of the Wynnic world
    Recently, I made a thread about 3 eggs found around Wynn. However, I came up with a theory involving a 4th, being the egg from Dead Island.
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    Secret room in Sarnfic ruins

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    Llevigar ultimate discovery (in the ice)

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    Llevigar ultimate discovery prior to 1.20

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    Near ToA inside a spike
    I have a theory about these eggs.
    So from what I said earlier, the Dern Beast might be female if this theory is true. My theory about these eggs is that the Dern Beast herself laid them and had Bak'al or someone hide them across the world so that they would hatch and corrupt everything. Theorick Twain found out about these and froze them before they could hatch and corrupt the whole world. Only 1 of these eggs ever had the chance to hatch and it was the one in Dead Island, hatching into another dragon that was slain by Bob. The others were:
    In Nesaak, frozen into a spike by Theorick when he found it.
    In a mine in Sarnfic, guarded by 2 dragons. Theorick froze it as well.
    Somewhere unknown, later found by Llevigar architects who were using ice to hold up supports in the city (if you explore Llevigar a bit you may see some of these icy pillars, this one having a dragon egg in it)

    Orphion and ender dragon scale comparison
    Orphion and the Dern Beast are supposed to be evenly matched foes, fighting a war for the world. It makes no sense that the Dern Beast would be bigger. Orphion's block model is decently large, and is actually at a really similar scale to the vanilla Ender Dragon. In theory, they could just make the Dern Beast be a retextured ender dragon with darkness patterns and a missing eye and stuff. If that was done, they would look so cool fighting each other.

    That's all I've got so far. If I think of more theories I'll add them later.
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    ok so im wrong about the her thing because he says before you face the darkness head on

    doesnt mean the dern beast isnt female tho, just no evidence for it now
     
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  2. FoxxoChan

    FoxxoChan Wynnian Photographer, Eye Pet Enthusiast CHAMPION

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    Never even knew about the eggs but this is a pretty cool theory!, tho the llevigar one and selchar seem pretty farfetched and since bob knew ice magic, it woulve made more sense if he freezed them, since we dont know if theorick ever left wynn, or even the neesak tundra, either way it could wolk really well.
     
  3. Fries

    Fries yeah i game G-can't do NoL cuz RoL5 buged A- M- E-

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    you have just created a new field of speculation

    and simps...
     
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  4. Samsam101

    Samsam101 Star Walker GM CHAMPION

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    Female character: Exists

    Literally everyone: oH No! tHErEs goNNA be so MANy siMPs!

    dont assume people will simp for every female character lol
     
  5. FoxxoChan

    FoxxoChan Wynnian Photographer, Eye Pet Enthusiast CHAMPION

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    Shut it and dont give them ideas
     
  6. Fries

    Fries yeah i game G-can't do NoL cuz RoL5 buged A- M- E-

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    you'd be surprised
     
  7. WithTheFish

    WithTheFish Internet Macrocelebrity CHAMPION

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    Alright time to disprove your theory:

    Salted is the owner of Wynn and loves adding cows and references to him in the game. Let's be real here, the dern beast is probably gonna follow this trend and be a bovine too.
     
  8. Potatomancer

    Potatomancer Budget Wither

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    True, but Orphion wasn't a cow
     
  9. FoxxoChan

    FoxxoChan Wynnian Photographer, Eye Pet Enthusiast CHAMPION

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    Or was he?... *vsauce music plays*
     
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  10. Samsam101

    Samsam101 Star Walker GM CHAMPION

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    damn it, i spent 20 minutes writing this thread for it to be absolutely shattered by 1 piece of evidence.

    good job withthefish you master of the wynn lore
     
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  11. JaydonTheWarrior

    JaydonTheWarrior Nerf tanks, buff warrior. HERO

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    Where are you drawing the connection?
    Like, first off this is clearly just talking about a dragon's eye, but my question is where are you connecting this to dern... At all.

    I can do this aswell:
    Giants brace supports my theory about the Dern Beast being a giant, because it says Giant in its name. I know this could mean that there was Giants, but I believe it doesn't.
     
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  12. Samsam101

    Samsam101 Star Walker GM CHAMPION

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    I'm referring to the eye part. It's my most doubted theory tbh
     
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    JaydonTheWarrior Nerf tanks, buff warrior. HERO

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    This was added far after Dern was a thing.
    We have no reason to believe Dern was orginally the end, at all. I have no idea where you got the info that the end was planned to be a location, but frankly, I'm pretty sure your spreading false information.

    Also, base minecraft has no barings on wynn.
     
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    Samsam101 Star Walker GM CHAMPION

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    I should probably have explained this further in the thread.

    At the old end portal, the talking mushroom would say something about it being important (i would have copy and pasted it here but they removed it from the wiki since the end portal was removed)
    This provided a small amount of evidence to say that the end was going to be a major location

    As for base minecraft having no barings on wynn:
    The nether.
    The. Nether.
    Also the fact that like base minecraft eyes are important to the story or whatever (except this might be a coincidence due to ancient history having many links to eyes as a symbol)

    You make a good point so I'll knock that one down to orange
     
  15. Stormarend

    Stormarend The classes DO NOT correspond with the elements.

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    While Wynn lore has obviously been inspired by vanilla Minecraft since its infancy, I think it's quite clear that the developers and content team want to make Wynncraft's story into its own thing. Making the Dern beast basically the Ender Dragon would be a little on the nose, don't you think? I doubt that's what they're going for.

    All in all this thread just seems like a stretch, especially if you acknowledge that Dern could simply be inspired by the End, without directly using the Ender Dragon in particular.
     
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    Neptune Self-proclaimed Az Cult Leader CHAMPION

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    Here's an egg in Detlas
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    Samsam101 Star Walker GM CHAMPION

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    Honestly I think that one's just decorative, seems to be some sort of thing holding the sign onto the wood
     
  18. shtnck eyh ckhhe

    shtnck eyh ckhhe Jesus of Nether-eth

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    why...

    Also, I don't think Dern Beast would be a dragon. Dragons in Wynn are kind of like Weirds. I remember there being Dragons of Light and Dragons of Darkness or something along those lines.
     
  19. Greedus

    Greedus Knight of Wynn VIP+

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    Can't believe I never saw that.

    Ozoth, Ahmsord Dragon and Ice dragon exsist and presumably others but I think they mean that the dragon would be the embodiment of dern beast, kind of how Stags and Foxes are real things; Orphion, being a god and force has taken the physical form of a fox/deer thing
     
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    TheWitch3r "Killing monsters" CHAMPION

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    Hmm, interesting...!
     
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