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SPOILER Lari Info + Orphion Raid Ending

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  1. ___test

    ___test Well-Known Adventurer

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    Basically after doing the new "Orphion's Nexus of Light" raid Orphion talks to you and says some lore stuff, but what's important is that he said in high gavellian "You must stop her, or the war will never end", right after talking about Lari.
    Now, I dont know about you, but it seems like a certain elf girl is gonna pay for taking away my chances of fighting Bak'al for the 7th time
     
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    blegar1 Well-Known Adventurer

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    Ok. What? Orphion goes from lari's important to "stop her"? B-but why?!
     
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    FoxxoChan Wynnian Photographer, Eye Pet Enthusiast CHAMPION

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    If im not wrong, the dialogue after the fight is unfinished so i think it isnt time to make any conclusions yet, but idk
     
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    ___test Well-Known Adventurer

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    makes sense, but that's probably just to fix some mistakes and polish the dialogue, I dont think that theyre randomly going to change a lore point
     
  5. ditsario

    ditsario it's always christmas somewhere in the world VIP+

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    [1/10] Orphion: The Parasite which you detached from me was responsible for the decay of my realm, and the subsequent decline of yours.
    [2/10] Orphion: It was sent as a direct attack from the Realm of Darkness. Somehow, the balance is in their favour.
    [3/10] Orphion: My strength is soul bound to the health of your lands. Although I have been freed, it will take time for me to recover.
    [4/10] Orphion: Now that the source is gone, the dernmites will not be able to spread across Gavel and will eventually starve.
    [5/10] Orphion: I thought that Lari was my only hope of survival. I now realise that both you and her are destined for much more.
    [6/10] Orphion: The war is far from over, my Pulse. Like Lari, you must go beyond the veil and bring the world to balance.
    [7/10] Orphion: Light can not exist without the Darkness, just as the Dark can not exist without the Light.
    [8/10] Orphion: This world has been thrown out of balance and the realms continue to war.
    [9/10] Orphion: Before you face the Darkness head on though... There is one more you must face.
    [10/10] Orphion: You must stop her, or the war will never end.
    He's not talking about Lari (at least, as of this dialogue). He explicitly says:
    [9/10] Orphion: Before you face the Darkness head on though... There is one more you must face.
    [10/10] Orphion: You must stop her, or the war will never end.
    BEFORE we face the darkness head on. Lari is in Dern, we can't stop her before facing the darkness, it has to be someone who we'll fight below level 100. Perhaps Qira, perhaps Fruma Queen, perhaps someone else entirely, it's not clear yet. But almost certainly not Lari.

    Besides, he doesn't actually indicate he's still talking about Lari, he stops talking about her, then a few lines later starts saying there is "one more" we must face.
     
  6. TheWitch3r

    TheWitch3r "Killing monsters" CHAMPION

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    Yep, I can agree on that. You must consider, this raid is made for lvl 80+, so you will still have some journey before you.
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    I mean I was glad I don't had to fight him, considering you are lvl 79 at this point and seeing how easily he defeated Tasim and Aledar (both ~105). I think we're still missing a final piece. At first I thought it was straight up dumb to follow Bak'al. But look at it in this way: she was probably the least exspected and best distraction for the Dern Beast we could ever have hoped for. Thus giving us the time to get strong enough to venture into SE and destroying one of the main outposts the Beast had. The more I look at it, the more it makes sense.
     
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    EpsilonDown Vibing to TNA theme

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    "Before the facing the darkness". We don't face her again before going to silent expanse. So it's either Qira or Fruma Queen, personally think Qira is more likely.
     
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    divzr Morph/Snail Set Enjoyer CHAMPION

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    I'd very much like it to be Fruma Queen but if I'm not mistaken I'd heard Fruma would be to expand midgame
     
  9. Potatomancer

    Potatomancer Budget Wither

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    i doubt its qira because she seems to be a rebelling dern creature herself. The fact she is a dark color, is building an army, and ISNT attacking Gavel with it pretty much shows Qira is not trying to destroy gavel and is instead trying to defeat Dern.
    Fruman Queen is a much more likely.
     
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    ___test Well-Known Adventurer

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    Then the dialogue really is a wip, I cant see how someone who has like 2 lines in the game referencing their existance can be the only possible "her" withouth it being explained better
    Edit: nvm I just discovered that the fruma queen is only referenced as a "Her", so if that's what the ct were referencing then that's pretty clever, too bad there isnt uppercase high gavellian for the "H"
     
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  11. EpsilonDown

    EpsilonDown Vibing to TNA theme

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    He just said "the war isn't going to end", not darkness is going to win.

    Since Qira is kind of obsessed, she is maybe planning to raid Darkness with all her creatures, breaking balance again. Then darkness attacks back, rinse and repeat.
     
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    I doubt that someone like Qira would not know of the balance of the realms. She's probably just going to weaken the Dern Beast to restore balance.
     
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