Rebalanced Raid Buffs!!

We've heard your feedback and thus have fixed raid buffs!
We aimed to address the disparity in strength between the buffs for both raids as well as the overall difficulty and prioritization of survival over dps in the Colossus raid.

Grootslang

Spoiler: Skill Master

Skill Master I

+10 All Skill Points
+50% All Element Defense

Skill Master II

+15 All Skill Points
+50% Spell Damage
+75% Main Attack Damage

Skill Master III

+25 All Skill Points
+100% All Element Defense
+Saviour's Sacrifice Major ID

Total:
50 All Skill Points
150% All Element Defense
50% Spell Damage
75% Melee Damage
Saviour's Sacrifice Major ID

Spoiler: Berserk

Berserk I

+Explosive Impact Major ID
+20% Explosion
+50% Main Attack Damage

Berserk II

+100% Sprint Regen
+200 Main Attack Damage
+20% Exploding

Berserk III

+125% Main Attack Damage
+400 Main Attack Damage
+100 Strength

Total:
40% Explosion
175% Main Attack Damage
600 Main Attack Damage
100% Sprint Regen
100 Strength
Explosive Impact Major ID

Spoiler: Vampire

Vampire I

+250 Life Steal
+2 Mana Steal
+1500 Health

Vampire II

+400 Life Steal
+300 Health Regen
+1500 Health

Vampire III

+6 Mana Steal
+Heart of the Pack Major ID
+500 Health Regen

Total:
650 Life Steal
800 Health Regen
8 Mana Steal
3000 Health
Heart of the Pack Major ID

Spoiler: Spellcaster

Spellcaster I

+30 Intelligence
+40% Water Damage

Spellcaster II
+50% Spell Damage
+3 Mana Regen

Spellcaster III
+40 Intelligence
+85% Water Damage
+Transcendence Major ID

Total:
70 Intelligence
125% Water Damage
50% Spell Damage
3 Mana Regen
Transcendence Major ID

Spoiler: Racer

Racer I

+40% Speed
+30 Agility

Racer II

+60% Speed
+100% Sprint
+40 Agility

Racer III

+Freerunner Major ID
+80 Agility
+2000 Health

Total:
100% Walk Speed
100% Sprint
2000 Health
150 Agility
Freerunner Major ID

Colossus

Spoiler: Giant

Giant I
+3000 Health Bonus
+50 Defense

Giant II
+5000 Health Bonus
+400 Health Regen Raw

Giant III
+7000 Health Bonus
+1000 Health Regen Raw
+50% Health Regen

Total:
15000 Health
1400 Health Regen Raw
50% Health Regen
50 Defense

Spoiler: Intrepid

Intrepid I
+40 Dexterity
+80% Walk Speed
+Guardian Major ID

Intrepid II
+2 Attack Speed Bonus
+75% Spell Damage
+Saviour's Sacrifice Major ID

Intrepid III
+80 Dexterity
+50 Agility
+Heart of the Pack Major ID

Total:
120 Dexterity
50 Agility
80% Speed
75% Spell Damage
2 Attack Speed Bonus
Guardian Major ID
Heart of the Pack Major ID
Saviour's Sacrifice Major ID

Spoiler: Monk

Monk I
+70 Agility
+40 Intelligence
+100% Reflection

Monk II
+4 Mana Regen
+60 Intelligence
+100% Water Damage

Monk III
+7 Mana Regen
+100% Spell Damage
+100% Water Damage

Total:
70 Agility
100 Intelligence
11 Mana Regen
100% Reflection
100% Spell Damage
200% Water Damage

Spoiler: Pestilent

Pestilent I
+5000 Poison
+50 Strength
+750 Life Steal

Pestilent II
+7500 Poison
+5 Mana Steal
+100 Strength

Pestilent III
+10000 Poison
+1250 Life Steal
+Plague Major ID

Total:
22500 Poison
2000 Life Steal
5 Mana Steal
150 Strength
Plague Major ID

Spoiler: Stonewalker

Stonewalker I
+60 Defense
+3500 Main Attack Damage
+100% Thorns

Stonewalker II
+35% Exploding
+60 Defense
+200% Main Attack Damage

Stonewalker III
+300% Main Attack Damage
+Explosive Impact Major ID
+4500 Main Attack Damage

Total:
120 Defense
8000 Main Attack Damage
500% Main Attack Damage
35% Exploding
Explosive Impact Major ID

 

Y'all are welcome. I tried to get this out earlier, but there was so much stuff to do that it ended up getting buried a bit, but they're done now! Hopefully they'll work much better than before!

 

POGgyyyyyy

 

Yo can someone tell me what these mean please, it's all Gavellian to me

 

Wait we have? WHAT? MORE WORK?

 

*Nepta Floodbringer likes this*

 

done a few tcc raids so far, the only time the raid failed was when only the party leader was send to defend the statues alone and didn't succeed,
(managed to solo it once)
then the mobs would start to rapidly multiply and it would be impossible.

 

These changes are incredible.
The difference between low rolling and high rolling has been one of my least favourite things about tcc, and while I am still a little sad that giant remains the only buff with raw hp, these changes go a long way to adding consistency and also put an actual meaningful choice on what buffs to take (instead of picking monk / giant 90% of the time whenever they show up).

Also because the power of the buffs in general are a lot closer together, PREFERENCE is actually worth something

 

What's the point of a poison multiplayer raid buff if poison doesn't work when anyone else is wearing contrast/1 poison item?

https://forums.wynncraft.com/thread...overwritten-by-faster-hitting-players.282001/

someone please acknowledge this bug

 

Ah, these look much better. I only have minor things to say. Some random thoughts, mainly on TCC because I haven't been able to actually do Grootslang:

• I am not sure why you're listing totals? It's generally going to be better to mix and match between the different types.
• Intrepid is pretty interesting... the placement of Guardian on Intrepid I is kind of neat, as it forces a choice between getting a good group play major ID on a healtank, vs. taking the +Def or +Agi buffs on Monk or Stonewalker that round, depending on whether you need/want more group sustain or personal tankiness.
• Intrepid II is in a bit of an awkward position where RNG means you can't really rely on getting the +tiers (and ofc if you lose the bet, your dps is shot), whereas in Spell it doesn't really provide much? Maybe you can do, like, a spellspam build with a bunch of -ls or something, but it'd be really dangerous - probably too dangerous to use. Intrepid III is mostly useful because it's the only way to get +Agi on a healtank if you grab Guardian, but it'll probably be better to take Giant III anyway, especially since you can't plan ahead about which buffs you're going to take. Overall, Intrepid feels kind of unfocused.
• Monk having water damage is interesting from a building perspective, as KoH will no longer be quite as dominant. Unfortunately it creates some weirdness in weapon balancing (part of why I personally dislike the tying of water damage to heal strength - ideally someday I'd prefer to see some sort of tying of heals to hpr and lifesteal). As mentioned before, the placement of +Agi here and +Def on Stonewalker alongside the Guardian on Intrepid is an interesting tradeoff.
• Plague on Pestilent III is still kind of pointless since there's not much in the way of minions in the bossfight (just the Peridotites, and Plague doesn't help too much against them anyway). Imo it would be more interesting for Plague to be placed on Tier I or II (with any other needed adjustments ofc).
• A natural consequence of raids being obligate group battles is that there is a strong incentive to minmax all of your sustain on one player - as such, the personal-only sustain benefits in the raid buffs (hpr and lifesteal) aren't really useful for a decent party, since they don't contribute to either mage/shaman or Rally/Greed/etc. healing power, and will be pushed over by those anyway. (The defensive sp is still very useful of course)
• A natural consequence of varied +sp boosts in raid buffs is that negative sp (and therefore Hive Armors) is strongly discouraged. This is just a thought, but what if these raid buffs operated from a position of existing negative sp being treated as zero sp?

 

Pestilent I needs plague tbh, getting it right before a boss fight is pretty ineffective

 

Give Giant less Health overall and increase overall %Health regen, makes warriors less dependable on mages

 

It's tierstack time!

 

notta fan of the giant rework tbh, it makes it the brain dead option to make your glass cannon build less glassy. Obviously giant 1 and 2 still do that with the current buffs, but on live rn if you want giant 3 you have to take the guardian major ID, which to glassy builds is a pretty big downside since they're not prepared to do that. It makes giant 3 really good for tanks who can handle it, and makes glass cannons consider the potential drawbacks, and if they do choose it still, they have to play more carefully to prevent being dunked on by the major id.

 

I love that pestilent keeps getting buffed even though its absolutely USELESS because of a bug