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SPOILER [speculation] Things I Want In 1.21 Or 1.22

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  1. Da Homeboi

    Da Homeboi maybe tell me if somethings wrong with the wiki

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    So since nearly everything related to 1.20 has been revealed or spoken about through Hero Beta and the Changelog, that kind of leads me to wonder, what exactly would 1.21 or 1.22 be like?

    Keep in mind all of this is speculation so this is not going to be confirmed in 1.21 or 1.22.

    First, why am I saying 1.21 or 1.22? Kind of simple, (KIND OF SPOILERS PAST THIS POINT)if you check out TommyInnit's video about what goes on behind the scenes, at one point, there is a diamond dimension, unknown exactly what it will be for, however, there was no diamond dimension seen so far in 1.20, so it would be safe to say it's probably for 1.21(End of Kind of Spoilers), that also begs the question, what would the main theme be?

    I'll go through 1.16 to 1.20 updates to show exactly what the theme could be:
    1.16, Corkus
    1.17, Dungeons and Discoveries
    1.18, Economy
    1.19, Silent Expanse
    1.20, Gavel Reborn

    So in 1.16 and 1.19, we got a new province, and the other 3 are gameplay changes, and if I go to the Gavel Expansion, 1.14 added Gavel and basically doubled the content, and 1.15 was a more gameplay-focused update (Couldn't really find a main theme that stuck with Wynncraft year-round, but the theme then would probably be Wynnter), basically showing how around half the time, we could get a massive gameplay revamp, or a new province.

    So what exactly would be potential candidates for a new province?
    Well, it's pretty obvious. Fruma or Dern, although we could also get a new province completely unrelated to the War of the Realms.

    As for revamps, I feel like there could be some candidates for a revamp, mainly the Ocean, and Wynn.
    The reason I say Wynn could be a candidate would mainly be some of the quests. Most people say that the earlier quests are kind of lackluster in content, and I kind of agree. While there are some good ones in the Wynn Plains like the Sewers of Ragni, Deja Vu, Recover the Past, and the arguably best quest in the Wynn Plains (And Ocean technically) being Misadventure on the Sea (Good Job Jbip, but I still think Giant Rat > Colossal Rat), however, there are also some fetch quests that are kind of disliked by some people compared to late-endgame quests, like Cook Assistant, Elemental Exercise, and Potion Making. These could use a revamp to be more exciting than their older versions, and some tutorial quests like Elemental Exercise could use a huge revamp. Now on to the Ocean, which in my opinion, is a bit lacking, for a lack of a better word. There's not a lot of lore to the Ocean, really the only 2 main pieces of lore to the Ocean would be Redbeard and the Mages. Sure, they are responsible for calming the waves and pillaging, but I feel like there needs to be more lore, like what if the Pirates and Mages discovered each other and had a war, or what if there were rogue Robots in the ocean that accidentally make their way to Wynn or Gavel? To me, the Ocean is a canvas that was colored in, yet still has some empty spots needed to be filled. Like how in Beneath the Depths, instead of you traveling everywhere, it could instead just send you to explore the ancient ruins of Sarnfic, and I think it's kind of a crime how the lost city of the Ocean is just used in one quest and is then forgotten about, like what if you learned the history of Sarnfic's burial? Another one that could use a revamp would be Zhight Island, where instead of just going across the ocean, you relaxed at the resort and pirates raided it, and you have to rescue a top reviewer? And there could also be some new quests regarding the Ocean, like Regular Island, and how it is really a goblin sanctuary for the more peaceful goblins, and how they broke away from the Llevigar Plains? The ocean could use much more in my opinion.

    Now onto more minor additions, starting off with more quests and discoveries.

    For quests that I think desperately need a revamp, here they are:
    Cook Assistant
    Potion Making
    Lost Tower
    Green Gloop
    Bob's Lost Soul
    Zhight Island
    Temple of the Legends (Insert my Shameless plug for a link to my ToL rework here)
    The Canyon Guides
    The Lost

    There is kind of one thing that they all share in common, there is a lot of fetching or just talking to NPCs. You also might notice something else about the list, there are more early game quests (Lv 1-34) than midgame quests or late-game quests. Of course, opinions are subjective and vary among different people, but I really think these quests can be turned into something better. They redid the Iron Heart series in 1.20, and it looks to be way better than the original, and Iron Heart Part II right now is a pretty good quest! They could dive into showing more lore, like for the Canyon Guides, instead of just guiding Seluc to the Bantisu Air Temple, you and Seluc accidentally stumble upon a lost city in the Canyon of the Lost, and you could integrate The Lost into this quest, serving as a fun quest.

    And for new quests, (MASSIVE SPOILERS FOR RoL PART V)You get to go to Dern and fight a corrupted Lari since Lari dies or becomes corrupted at the end of RoL Part V, and you could end the quest by fighting Bak'al. (End of Spoilers).

    And there's also Secrets. I think it's kind of a crime how Jungle Secret Discoveries weren't added to the game, especially considering the fact that every major location in 1.20 has secrets, except the Jungle. And also, most secrets follow a theme, in the Wynn Plains, it's Corruption, in the Desert, it's about the lost empire of the Sands, for the Tundra, it's about the Twains, and for the Silent Expanse, it's about Dern (I won't go into the new discoveries added because spoilers). The potential theme for the Jungle Discoveries could be about Slykaar, since I kind of view him as a blank canvas for secrets.

    I'll also go into Corkus discoveries. Every region in the game that has secrets has an ultimate except Corkus. I also feel like it's kind of lacking smaller secret discoveries, and it is highly deprived of an Ultimate. I really want to see Corkus have a relation with the Realm of the Wars, because every major province is affiliated with it except Corkus, and if it is, then it's very subtle.

    And the Ocean. In my opinion, Ocean discoveries feel very unorthodox for one reason: The Ocean has a massive Level gap of 20-70. There is also no clear theme going on for the secrets, as the Pirates and Mages are both as equally as important to the lore in the ocean, and both of them had as much impact as the other. Maybe it could be the fall of Sarnfic, but overall, there is no clear theme.

    Now onto the topic of other new content. First, Corrupted Dungeons.

    There are only 2 more slots left in the Forgery (It is the same in 1.20) for 2 new corrupted dungeons, and we all know what they are going to be, Corrupted Yahya - The Final Form, and Nohno's Basemen- no I'm kidding. Corrupted Galleon's Graveyard and Corrupted Fallen Factory. There will most likely not be a Corrupted Eldritch Outlook for a lot of reasons, but here are my 2 main ones:
    The lore would be very broken. I know all the Corrupted Dungeon Entrances are an imaginary world where Wynn and the Ocean are Corrupted, but Dern is stronger than Corruption. Dernic beings cannot be corrupted. You might say that Bak'al is technically a Dernic being, but no. He was corrupted. In a world of pure Corruption, there would be no light, so why would the light infect Dern if all of Wynn and the Ocean became Corrupted?
    There's also the topic of difficulty. The Eye is already a very tough boss, currently the hardest, and would probably be as hard as Orphion. Why would it need increased difficulty if the difficulty setting it already cranked to 11?

    And now it's time for Raids(And also Spoilers if you don't want the Ultimate of the Light Forest spoiled)!

    I kind of wanted the parasites to stay in Gavel so there could be a Level 80 raid called the Heart of the Decay, but since it left, I don't know exactly what the main boss would be, since for the Nest of the Grootslangs, the main boss there was the Grootslang Wyrmlings, as the main enemy you must defeat, but all of the Parasites seem to grow on the same basis, and the original parasite (The Mother for short) went back to Dern. So what would be the new Mother? Do all parasites have the capability to lay eggs? I don't think it would make sense for Bak'al to be in there since he serves the Dern Beast and can't remain in Gavel for the rest of his life.

    But Dullahan's Mansion? It's pretty likely. At the end of the new RoL Part 3 quest, we don't fight Dullahan. He is still in his mansion. It would probably be a Level 70 Raid, with Dullahan being the obvious boss.

    There's also Ozoth, which would be a pretty cool raid, or the Frozen Dens with there being the last Frost Dragon surviving being the boss(Not actually canon just made-up lore) being Level 90 raids.

    And of course, the Dern Beast being a Level 110 Raid.

    That is all for my speculation, if you want to speculate for new stuff added, feel free to say.
     
  2. Ellphant

    Ellphant [they/them] your friendly neighborhood birb HERO

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    se isn't a province, it's a corner of wynn taken over by dern
     
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  3. Da Homeboi

    Da Homeboi maybe tell me if somethings wrong with the wiki

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    Technically. It's technically a province.
     
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  4. Ellphant

    Ellphant [they/them] your friendly neighborhood birb HERO

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    Quote from the wiki, "The Silent Expanse, also commonly called the Road to Dern, is a new region released in the 1.19 Silent Expanse Update. A large area that was once a part of Wynn Province before being overtaken by darkness, the Expanse is located in the far south-east corner of Wynn; it is implied to serve as a passage between Wynn and the distant "dark lands", in the Realm of Dern."
    Quote from the changelog, "It's been a little while since we added a whole new area! It's a place we've talked about a while back, called the "Road to Dern" back then. It's not Dern itself, but an area of Wynn taken under its control."

    Not a province. I will fight this argument to my grave.
     
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  5. SuperTheFlugel

    SuperTheFlugel Battle Monk Enjoyer CHAMPION

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    I would like dern+ realm of light expansion
     
  6. Samsam101

    Samsam101 Star Walker GM

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    If this update wasn't focused on gavel we'd have gotten these. We also need Ocean discoveries.

    ..wait
    THAT GIVES ME AN IDEA!
    THE NEXT UPDATE SHOULD BE AN OCEAN OVERHAUL!!!!

    Think about it. The ocean is probably one of the weirdest places in the game right now. The only modernised areas of it are the islands. There's plenty of cryptic little caves at the bottom of the ocean to keep people exploring for ages. We should get an update for these and maybe even add more!

    of course the update would need additional content considering the fact that the ocean is a place where you can't put much content but still
     
  7. ramenstew

    ramenstew professional idiot HERO

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    The diamond dimension isn't actually made of diamonds, it's just a filler block for when they swap it in for terrain. Thus, it's just basic terrain and we can interpret nothing from it.
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    More raid ideas:
    Iron golem related raid at 60
    I'd really love a Caritat related one at 70 but that wouldn't be probable
    Lexdale/Aldorei/Gylia related one at 80
    Sky Island one at 100. Void one would be dope as well.
     
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  8. ZockerCam

    ZockerCam Travelling sorcerer. Master of Wind Magic. VIP+

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    Arent Raids a Gavel only thing?

    I really hope that the Dern Beast can be defeated without other players.
     
  9. Emogla3

    Emogla3 az is bad 2: the movie HERO

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    The Lost is fun and chill but it's very likely getting reworked at some time sad sad

    anyways yeah an Ocean update would be good, also an actual main storyline

    one new area that I can see being added is the Nether as an actual ingame area, not a PvP zone
     
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    Da Homeboi maybe tell me if somethings wrong with the wiki

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    That would be a pretty cool area for a Realm of Dern quest.
     
  11. MlecznyHuxel99

    MlecznyHuxel99 Fruman walls guy

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    I would love to see giant main storyline with like 10 quests about Dern and Bob+ocean revamp

    It would be cool, but it would be really hard to connect it to lore, because of what happened to CoW, Theorick, Garoth and Bak'al
     
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  12. JaydonTheWarrior

    JaydonTheWarrior Nerf tanks, buff paladin.

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    No.
     
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    Samsam101 Star Walker GM

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    Considering the fact that Orphion can't be defeated without other players and that canonically dark is stronger than light, you will need to do it with others
     
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  14. JaydonTheWarrior

    JaydonTheWarrior Nerf tanks, buff paladin.

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    You guys are listing way to many raids.
    Fairly certain the void castle, or dullhans mansion are supposed to be dungens, not more raids.

    Why would they be?
     
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    ramenstew professional idiot HERO

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    The void needs more use, it's tied for favorite place with Sky Islands and Ahmsord in my book
     
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  16. Stratiformis

    Stratiformis Banned 5 years ago. Hoping to come back...

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    Corrupted Dungeons suck and are lorebreaking shit. Just make a Gavel Dungeons instead. Lvl 70 in a Dark Forest (Kander Part), 74-75 in a Light Forest, 80 and 85 in CotL, 90 in Molten Heights and 95 in Sky Islands. I know Gavel has a Raids but its a RAIDS, challenges for 3-5 players and for Tomes! Dungeons are for Weapons/Armor/Accessory. Now for Altars, they are fine, but I think Weapons and Armor should be a Dungeons reward, Altars should give a powerful Ingredients or Accessories. Back to Raids, in my vision of future Wynncraft, there is a Nether Ba'kal Raid for lvl 95-105 and a Dern Beast Raid for lvl 110-115.

    Now for the 1.21 speculation. I think it's a Dern Expansion which includes Beast Raid, Dern Realm and of course rework of Bob Questline, explaining all the things like: His race, parents, masters, Nilrem, enemies, fake death, actual death, reincarnation, CoW fight, Dern Beast fight etc
     
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    ZockerCam Travelling sorcerer. Master of Wind Magic. VIP+

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    I thought they are the Gavel Dungeons we never had..
    Also I dont really like the level cap and the player requirement. The fight should be hard so that you need more players to fight it, it shouldnt tell you what you need to even enter
    ________________________________
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    TigerYaisou Famous Adventurer VIP+

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    or possibly adding lore for the shaman. maybe jungle discoveries werent added this update because shaman lore is still being figured out
     
  19. Da Homeboi

    Da Homeboi maybe tell me if somethings wrong with the wiki

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    I kind of has made-up lore that almost all Reliks in Wynn are made by the Iboju, and I kind of have an idea for a discovery that will give you a Neutral, Earth, Thunder, Water, Fire, or Air Spear/Wand/Bow/Dagger/Relik regarding the Iboju.
     
  20. Yraw

    Yraw Water Fountain

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    @Iboju why did you make yol
     
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