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[poll] Community Trade Market Bot

Discussion in 'Wynncraft' started by bolyai, Dec 29, 2020.

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Do you support the idea?

  1. Yes

    66.2%
  2. No

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  1. bolyai

    bolyai Well-Known Adventurer CHAMPION

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    The idea has been thrown around multiple times in the community but it doesn't seem like anyone made a bot or the bot was never introduced to the community. I want to change this.

    Firstly, before I go into details, would you guys (and the community) want a bot like this to exist?
    Since it would not replace the ingame market, but still improve on the quality of trading I don't (currently) see any negative effects this bot would cause. Moderation for the bot would exist, possibly including Wynn mods (more about moderation in the form below).

    If you have made this far in the thread, you are probably interested. I have made a list of features I think are necessary for the bot, however I would love to hear your suggestions.

    upload_2020-12-29_18-0-25.png

    I have also created a Google Form with a few questions, I would be thankful if you guys could fill it out.
    https://forms.gle/drXQ8qrHy5PVCw5SA
    However, I also added a simple poll on this thread, fill this out too if you don't want to go through all the questions on the form (even though it's really short).

    Thank you for reading this!
     
  2. Dream

    Dream Hero of the lost atoll Trial-Mod CHAMPION

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    Personally I'm against a person or a group of people having external influence over the market (how insignificant that influence that may be doesn't matter). I want the only people that can have influence over the market to be the admins and the moderator team. Some examples of this may be:
    1) Sharpening player awareness over item prices so an items price becomes more stable
    2) Making it easier to circulate more rare collectibles and thus decreasing/increasing the price caused by the knowledge of the supply of that certain collectible
    etc.
    So this would be a no from me dawg.
     
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  3. bolyai

    bolyai Well-Known Adventurer CHAMPION

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    I agree with that no person should have external control over the market except the admins however, I don't see how the bot would do it. It's purpose is to just to connect buyers with sellers and make trading easier. People would still have to talk to each other and make the trade themselves. Also, I believe there are communities that currently influence the market far more and in a worse way any trade bot would.
     
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  4. StormKing3

    StormKing3 Famous Adventurer

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    It's also a bit of a bias google forms survey as after the first question you HAVE TO answer every question as if you love the idea. But thank you for taking the time to create it nonetheless
     
  5. Triactic

    Triactic Below average IQ VIP+

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    Look good to me :)
     
  6. bolyai

    bolyai Well-Known Adventurer CHAMPION

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    In that case, use the forum poll.
     
  7. StormKing3

    StormKing3 Famous Adventurer

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    Mate, that's not the point. I used both why should it be cut off, what a silly message to write. I'm telling him how to improve his survey and you say that
     
  8. TrapinchO

    TrapinchO retired observer of the wiki VIP+ Featured Wynncraftian

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    Looks interesting. What language?
     
  9. ramenstew

    ramenstew professional idiot HERO

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    too easily manipulated IMO, even if you aren't doing it with malicious intent it could turn into something bad extremely easily.
     
  10. Shoefarts

    Shoefarts I fart on shoes CHAMPION

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    Maybe just a market API that simply shows and tracks the prices of items.
     
  11. Lego_DW

    Lego_DW yeppers HERO

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    whether or not the larger wynn community as a whole is in support or not, if bolyai plans to move further with this, it will be added to the lootrunners discord. no eta on anything of course but if you want an invite hmu
     
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  12. bolyai

    bolyai Well-Known Adventurer CHAMPION

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    Most likely JS
     
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    TrapinchO retired observer of the wiki VIP+ Featured Wynncraftian

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    Ok

    If it would be in python I could propably help. Too lazy to learn advanced JS
     
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  14. Druser

    Druser ele defs don't matter HERO Featured Wynncraftian

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    People talk about someone having some sort of nebulous "control" over the market by doing this but don't say anything about what that control could be...
     
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    TrapinchO retired observer of the wiki VIP+ Featured Wynncraftian

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    Colin said that there propably won't be one and IF then it would be heavily limited no matter your key
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    Into what exactly?
     
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    ramenstew professional idiot HERO

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    Embezzlement would be 1 button away
    Bait and switch scams would be easy to perform
    I'm not saying the owners of this operation would do this, just if someone had the intent to do this it would be easy for them to.
     
  17. TrapinchO

    TrapinchO retired observer of the wiki VIP+ Featured Wynncraftian

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    Quite sure there are ways to prevent it
     
  18. ramenstew

    ramenstew professional idiot HERO

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    Like what? There's no way to ensure that a higher up won't do this because it's a decision, not an accident.
     
  19. TrapinchO

    TrapinchO retired observer of the wiki VIP+ Featured Wynncraftian

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    The first thing is making it open source. Then I assume there are ways to check if the code running the same as on github.

    But yes, I see your point
     
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  20. williamszr98

    williamszr98 Cyberpunk 2077 have less bugs than this update VIP+

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    nah, too much potential for corruption and price manipulation.
     
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