Dismiss Notice
Wynncraft, the Minecraft MMORPG. Play it now on your Minecraft client at (IP): play.wynncraft.com. No mods required! Click here for more info...

Hey, Why Wasn't There A Rollback? ( Massive Dupe Issue Discussion )

Discussion in 'Wynncraft' started by Saya, Dec 27, 2020.

Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.
  1. Saya

    Saya you win at uwynn HERO

    Messages:
    2,930
    Likes Received:
    6,871
    Trophy Points:
    209
    Guild:
    Minecraft:
     
    RenZenthio and PikaPrince like this.
  2. TrapinchO

    TrapinchO retired observer of the wiki VIP+ Featured Wynncraftian

    Messages:
    4,662
    Likes Received:
    6,601
    Trophy Points:
    217
    Minecraft:
    What issues?
     
  3. Shuori

    Shuori Well-Known Adventurer VIP+

    Messages:
    31
    Likes Received:
    17
    Trophy Points:
    51
    Minecraft:
    mm yes i support this idea, despite grinding profs and getting 106 finally i feel that a rollback is still worth it
     
  4. Saya

    Saya you win at uwynn HERO

    Messages:
    2,930
    Likes Received:
    6,871
    Trophy Points:
    209
    Guild:
    Minecraft:
    phrasing of options and overall selection of choices would have to be very very well done and I'm not too good at phrasing or thinking ahead so
     
    RenZenthio and TrapinchO like this.
  5. Tekenen

    Tekenen Professional Loser VIP+

    Messages:
    2,678
    Likes Received:
    2,879
    Trophy Points:
    186
    Minecraft:
    since there's no poll I'll just support the rollback by commenting !
     
    RenZenthio and Arkade like this.
  6. StormKing3

    StormKing3 Famous Adventurer

    Messages:
    1,816
    Likes Received:
    751
    Trophy Points:
    117
    Guild:
    Minecraft:
    Sorry, can somebody put this into perspective for me as I haven't really heard about this previously. And even reading a few pages of replies doesn't help much, how much have the prices of mythics increased on average in the market in this short period of time?
     
  7. ramenstew

    ramenstew professional idiot HERO

    Messages:
    987
    Likes Received:
    2,540
    Trophy Points:
    159
    Minecraft:
    Made a thread stating solutions and like five different people said “leave it alone it’ll die down by itself lol”
     
  8. DominikGamer

    DominikGamer Nothing to see here HERO

    Messages:
    1,967
    Likes Received:
    333
    Trophy Points:
    69
    Guild:
    Minecraft:
    I support a rollback.
     
    starx280 and RenZenthio like this.
  9. 4rod

    4rod .

    Messages:
    3
    Likes Received:
    4
    Trophy Points:
    9
    I definitely agree for a rollback
     
    starx280 and RenZenthio like this.
  10. ReReverse

    ReReverse Social Anxiety (no longer) in a can! CHAMPION

    Messages:
    792
    Likes Received:
    806
    Trophy Points:
    125
    Guild:
    Minecraft:
    +1 for the rollback
     
    starx280 and RenZenthio like this.
  11. M3G4W3R7Y

    M3G4W3R7Y winner of third annual atlas games wooooooo HERO

    Messages:
    78
    Likes Received:
    86
    Trophy Points:
    51
    Guild:
    Minecraft:
    Those ten stacks arent worth anything without a rollback. also im in full support of a rollback
     
    Arkade and MlecznyHuxel99 like this.
  12. brixt01

    brixt01 Well-Known Adventurer HERO

    Messages:
    789
    Likes Received:
    249
    Trophy Points:
    64
    Guild:
    Minecraft:
    I understand that compared to the bigger picture, it would make sense. What I’m trying to say is that I can’t fully agree with this option purely because of the hours people have spent over the last few days, and that people should be trying to think of other options, as opposed to just looking at the first and most obvious option and going head on with it.
     
  13. TrapinchO

    TrapinchO retired observer of the wiki VIP+ Featured Wynncraftian

    Messages:
    4,662
    Likes Received:
    6,601
    Trophy Points:
    217
    Minecraft:
    Yeah, I think no one wants immediate rollback with no though.

    There would be too much damage done for this to be a possibility
     
    RenZenthio and BqwaOLD like this.
  14. Miles_

    Miles_ hi CHAMPION

    Messages:
    1,689
    Likes Received:
    1,003
    Trophy Points:
    117
    Guild:
    Minecraft:
    We absolutely need a rollback. The economy getting fucked by huge inflation is way more important than someone's profs. Someone's gonna get fucked over in this situation, it just makes way more sense that the economy is saved in the long run than people lose some time on profs, which, by the way, can be compensated for somewhat with txp/dxp. I'm usually not the one to complain about the economy. In fact, I think most peoples' complaints about the economy are wrong and often stem from a lack of understanding, but this is extremely dangerous no matter how you look at it. Its a very tricky situation though, because of recent store purchases, too. I bought hero recently so I'd be worried about that. Its a tough situation. If a rollback is possible whilst people maintain store purchases I'd like that.
     
    PikaPrince likes this.
  15. ZockerCam

    ZockerCam Travelling sorcerer. Master of Wind Magic. VIP+

    Messages:
    918
    Likes Received:
    849
    Trophy Points:
    125
    Guild:
    Minecraft:
    Mythics are still "worth" the same but the money (emeralds) are worthless now

    What that means is that a mythic that previously cost 1 stack or le might cost 10 stacks of le now
     
    RenZenthio and StormKing3 like this.
  16. Casparof

    Casparof mythic counter: 2 HERO

    Messages:
    1,257
    Likes Received:
    402
    Trophy Points:
    69
    Minecraft:
    i can make a whole thread why no roll back and why we do need a rolback. but im just gonna say i support a rollback
     
  17. brixt01

    brixt01 Well-Known Adventurer HERO

    Messages:
    789
    Likes Received:
    249
    Trophy Points:
    64
    Guild:
    Minecraft:
    Yeah, I don’t see why everyone seems to be protesting for a rollback, despite this now being days of work down the drain at this point. If anything, we should be wanting a rollback less and less as time goes on, though I know at this point it isn’t completely ruled out.
     
    Saya and TrapinchO like this.
  18. LiteralSatan

    LiteralSatan The Disco Charity accepts all contributions CHAMPION

    Messages:
    199
    Likes Received:
    156
    Trophy Points:
    69
    Minecraft:
    Fuck, I literally got my Archer from like level 30 all the way to 105 during that time, and finally bought VIP+, it would be incredibly demoralizing to completely lose it and all the items I got for it. Not to say I'm not in support of a rollback, it's just a really hard and shitty decision that either way will probably kill my engagement in Wynncraft as a whole.
     
    Isabeau37, RenZenthio and Foudre like this.
  19. TrapinchO

    TrapinchO retired observer of the wiki VIP+ Featured Wynncraftian

    Messages:
    4,662
    Likes Received:
    6,601
    Trophy Points:
    217
    Minecraft:
    Hard? Yes
    Shitty? Depends on the context and how they would do it.

    The problem is the recent DXP weekend
     
  20. Bart

    Bart Well-Known Adventurer HERO

    Messages:
    172
    Likes Received:
    174
    Trophy Points:
    69
    Minecraft:
    I have no clue exactly how Wynn's infrastructure is organized but depending on the infrastructure it should be possible to do a partial rollback while also keeping some progress.

    Since for this bug the Trade Market was used, the most obvious thing is rollbacking the trade market. This might be possible depending on a few things, if:
    - rerolling the database of the trade market removes the LE used to buy items, the LE people got when selling overpriced items and returning the sold items to the player who sold them. (a.k.a. people's net worth should be back to where it was BEFORE the dupe)
    - you can filter out legitimate transactions, if someone who didn't had a lot of money bought some gear (a.k.a. spent almost all his money), it should not be rollbacked > filter out the transactions <5stx (or filter it out depending on not only the price but also the rarity) - obviously there might have been overpriced items for under <5stx but that affects the economy a lot less


    I personally think that this is pretty complex to do and you almost can't prevent a complete rollback due to the size of the dupe. Although what is possible to keep, as far as I know, are the class levels & profession levels gained during dxp week. This has nothing to do with the trade market and apart from having to redo quests (because the more simple rollback would just be rollback both trade market & bank, not having to worry bout returning sold items/removing LE/etc but since you might lose items gained during quests it's better to wipe quest progess aswell)..

    It's tough tho, since I also really dislike the idea of my progress in the dxp week gone.
     
    BqwaOLD likes this.
Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.