Why Are Certain Mythics Bad?

Its just that, why are certain mythics bad. Like Dawnbreak for example looks just like blind thrust but better, why is it considered one of the worst mythics in the game? Are these bad mythics actually ok but just don't sell due to overinflation of the economy?

 

Well for one I prefer blind thrust. The bad mythics are mostly just ones that fill a niche role and do less then some legendaries.

 

Yeah i also noticed that a lot of heavy melee items use strength while dawnbreak uses defense and dex

 

Well, the same things that make any item bad. It's just more noticeable in mythics because of their high prices and rarity and the fact that they're meant to be the strongest items in the game. Most mythics that are "bad" are still fairly strong items, they just aren't really that much better than an item that would be far easier to get or far cheaper. Some examples include really high requirements, low damage, a similar but lower rarity item being better at what it does or close enough while costing much less, id's that don't really help it/ a lack of good id's, large negative id's, being too gimmicky and probably the most important; not fitting any builds.

Dawnbreak is a good example; while thunder/fire is good with heavy melee, you usually also use earth in that combination, and Dawnbreak's negative health regen gives it a disadvantage. While that can be countered, that means choosing gear to do that, rather than to give more bonuses, or for your build to have negative health regen. While it is indisputably a good item, it doesn't possess enough raw power to make it a much better choice than a similar fabled item. In addition, it's only useful in a handful of builds. The high requirements mean that you can't easily use it with anything with really high stats other than fire and thunder, meaning that using it for a spell build, even an intel-less one is somewhat unlikely. This is true for most items to some extent, but normally it gets less attention, as the other items this applies to the most are typically a lot more common and cost far less to use over an alternative. Dawnbreak just costs too much for the benefits it offers unless the price is really low.

Another example is Lament before it was buffed. Before the buff, it gave a lot of mana steal, but was really lacking in pretty much everything else. Especially its damage; it was very similar to the Hive Wand and Nepta Floodbringer, both of which offered similar or better bonuses in most areas at a much lower cost. While it still ahd a slight edge on them, the massive cost increase in exchange for a small amount of damage, some mana steal or a bit of health made it feel like a much worse choice for a water mage, especially since mana regen is more useful for a spellspam build, which water often favors. Add to that the negative life steal and you had a mythic that just wasn't really that good. It was still a good item, but for the rarity, for the cost, it just wasn't that great despite being nearly the only item that fit the builds it was designed for.

 

in the case of most boots like dawnbreak, the high skills requirements make it harder to use in tri elemental builds, for example, dawnbreak cannot be used in most heavy melee builds (its clear intent) because of the 75 dex/def costs where most heavy melee gears do not grant skill points (or atleast dex/def)

 

Cata dbreak go brrr.

Another widely considered bad mythic is Strati, because the only thing its meant for is speed. It also has -3k hp, which will heavily punish your hp, and there's a non-mythic counterpart, which is Gales. Gale's force has good damage too, and has very fast attack speed, which means that you can abuse it using T6 powders. It also doesn't have -hp, which makes it still better for battle, even though it has less base dps.

Alkatraz is the worst out mythic out of all spears imo, and that's because while you can still get 40-50k dps, it'll leave your defence and agi crippled, and 90% of Alkatraz builds are glassy. it's also hard to fit some sort of sustain in, so it's hard to not use potions.

Then there's Az. Az's problem isn't with the bow itself, but the problem's that it can't really be used well at endgame, because unlike Pure, which has the highest dps out of all wands, even mythic, while being a lvl 65 weapon. Az doesn't have any sort of major id which could makes it see some use. There's also Cluster, which is a lvl 99 weapon, which has lots of life steal, and some mana steal in it, while also being super fast meaning that you can abuse the shit out of it with T6 powders. Az's actually pretty good, don't get me wrong, but only at level.

And finally Fantasia. Fantasia has the highest damage out of all Reliks, and also is amazing at tstack. But the problem with fantasia, even while being the amazing weapon it is, is that you can only use it if it has good id's. it has a painful -5mr and ms to counter, and you'll need to get -3 or 4mr for it to work well, and the odds of that are ~34% chance per roll, combine that with ms and you get ~10% chance. It also gives you 3 times 1 aura cost, but only if you can get -34% or more 3rd spell cost, and if you really want to, I can also include the fact that for optimal cycle costs, you also need -34% 4th spell cost. and then good spell damage for good spell damage.

 

Basically all mythics are good, but some are used rarely and thats why they are so cheap.

 

Inside a lootrunners head:
If it’s boots or spears it’s bad

 

It really just depends on the build. Some are just not useful for certain popular builds