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Champion Rank

Discussion in 'Wynncraft' started by earthsign, Nov 23, 2020.

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Way of purchase

  1. Subscription

    6 vote(s)
    7.1%
  2. One Time Purchase

    69 vote(s)
    81.2%
  3. Both Options

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  1. earthsign

    earthsign Well-Known Adventurer CHAMPION

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    Now the new rank looks really nice, and despite how you feel about the perks of it, which may even be changed, how do you guys feel about purchasing it. There's a lot of arguments and posts already on this forums about the perks of it, but haven't seen anyone ask about the opinions on how they want the payment for champion to be, just saw discussions ingame and on discord about it. I personally would prefer it to be a one time purchase, but I wanna see what other peeps think too.
     
  2. Sg_Voltage

    Sg_Voltage 1.18 was the best update, don't @me CHAMPION

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    My favorite part of champion is the fact that they looked at our concerns about it being P2W, said hold my beer and made it way worse then I could possibly imagine :(

    Still going to buy it eventually though unless it's like $200+ to upgrade from Hero
     
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  3. Dr Zed

    Dr Zed Famous Adventurer HERO

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    I understand both sides of it; besides the bomb bell I don't see it as that Pay to Win though. Which even then I don't see it as that big of a deal since you could just have discord open to track bombs.
     
  4. Sg_Voltage

    Sg_Voltage 1.18 was the best update, don't @me CHAMPION

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    I think the ability to make a store anywhere to push your merch is a little OP to me since selling is a good way to make money, plus the build stand is something realistically everybody should have. The housing locations also concerns me, I'm assuming it means the background can be changed but it could also mean there are champion only houses which would be really, really bad.
     
  5. nuuurd

    nuuurd theres no "best" class kthxbye VIP

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    i hope that it's a one time purchase, subscriptions suck ass imo

    about p2w, i believe salted said it pretty well.
     
  6. Sg_Voltage

    Sg_Voltage 1.18 was the best update, don't @me CHAMPION

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    Also, if there was an option to make monthly payments of like $10 until the full cost is paid after 8ish months I would totally go for that though a system like that would present a lot of its own problems so I don't think it's a really great idea, but I would love it.
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    NGL I'm kinda over the whole bomb bell thing, I think that's probably why they announced it before everything else so we could get the anger out of our systems.
     
  7. TurtleSea3

    TurtleSea3 Well-Known Adventurer VIP+

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    I think a one time purchase would make most sense because that's how they've always done ranks. I honestly don't know why they'd have it on a subscription model, unless the Champion rank is super expensive or something. Salted did mention an increased maintenance cost, and that's my guess as to why they've created this new rank, but I'm not exactly sure how high the prices have increased and if they warrant a subscription-based rank (which would bring in more money than a one-time purchase in the long run, and is my best guess as to the reason they'd do it that way if they do).

    Yeah, that seems viable if that's what they do. Or maybe the amount you paid in the subscription could be the amount they discount from the actual price (e.g. if the full price is $150, and you had paid $10/month for 5 months, you'd be able to pay $100 dollars or some other discounted price).
     
  8. -------------

    ------------- Well-Known Adventurer HERO

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    I'm one of those 2 that voted for both, as while personally I would like to pay only once, I think that if it is a subscription it will deter an extreme amount of players from purchasing it (although I may subscribe depending on the price). Now, in no way do I intend to suggest that Wynncraft shouldn't have the huge monetary support that an extreme amount of champions would be, it just brings a few concerns with their exclusive features. Particularly reserved slots and merchant booths.

    Reserved slots will almost certainly not be unlimited (my guess is around 5-10 extra player slots for champions), which means if there are huge numbers of champions online, this will be filled extremely quickly in the case of any player planned events such as giveaways, warring with new guilds or bomb parties. I'm concerned this would make the whole reserved slots perk redundant, as every champion would be spamming /switch to get into those reserved slots and make hardly any different than any other rank trying to attend the event.

    My concern with merchant booths is dependant on how they work specifically, which hasn't been fully clarified yet. If one booth is claimed for one individual champion, since they're in set locations on the map, that means there would be a limited amount of them available (this seems like a huge flaw but Salted has mentioned various times that he firmly believes not many players will purchase the champion rank, so too many champions and not enough booths may not have been a concern in its development). If booths can be used by multiple champions at different times, with extreme amounts of champions the feature might be made redundant, just a glorified marketplace (although if multiple champions can use one booth, I doubt the devs would make it work in such a way where this happens, so I have a bit more faith in them for this one).

    Now, I know these concerns arise entirely from the assumption that if it is a one time payment there will be an extreme amount of champions. Again, Salted specifically said in the changelog This is the highest rank we'll offer, which means fewer people will buy it. However, I think many people will buy it BECAUSE it's the highest rank they'll offer. If people have decided to spend money, many would go all in and get the best there is. Just look at the huge amount of hero ranks running around. All you gotta do is go to #vip_room on discord and scroll through the online players on the side and see how many hero ranks there are in comparison to the other ranks. I really respect Salted and his involvement in the community, but I think he seriously underestimates how many players will purchase champion.

    These are just my thoughts and concerns on the possible consequences which may be influenced by whether or not champion is a subscription or a one time purchase. I hope you'll excuse me as I probably heavily strayed from what this thread was made for but I thought it was a good place to transition to these thoughts, I haven't used forums for a long time. That's also the reason I didn't use the quote format thing like everyone else here lmao, they're really confusing.
     
  9. 1Jaden

    1Jaden Well-Known Adventurer VIP+

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    Current ranks are obviously one-time purchases, so I don't see any reason they would stray away from that model. I've never heard of rank subscriptions for a Minecraft server and can't imagine they would be very popular.

    Also I haven't done any research, but have we heard anything about what the price of the Champion rank will be?
     
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  10. MlecznyHuxel99

    MlecznyHuxel99 Fruman walls guy VIP+

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  11. dr_carlos

    dr_carlos Morph Gang! VIP+

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    Ah yes, rank subscriptions aren't popular...
    What about the most popular Minecraft server ever?
     
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  12. TrapinchO

    TrapinchO retired observer of the wiki VIP+ Featured Wynncraftian

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    And the toxic one? Most popular doesn't equal best
     
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  13. dr_carlos

    dr_carlos Morph Gang! VIP+

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    Yes, I agree.
    I am just saying that "rank subscriptions for a Minecraft server and can't imagine they would be very popular" is untrue, and I am agreeing with MlecznyHuxel99.
     
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