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Fruma Speculation Time!

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  1. Justice

    Justice Obliterator of Grooks VIP+

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    Well, why not as I'm assuming this is the next major province to come out next. Now, I finished the Recover the Past quest and was intrigued by what was shown and started thinking about the history of Fruma. Now, the Recover the Past quest mentions several thing such as Fruma being in isolation for hundreds of years, brainwashing, and a war of sorts. The thing that I will be talking more about is the war, most importantly, who are they at war with? The provinces of Wynncraft other than Fruma are Wynn, Gavel, Corkus, and Dern. Right off the bat, we can eliminate Wynn as they seem to be aiding them but that might be covering up something different. Gavel can be eliminated as well as Gavel is on the other side of the map and would be hard to invade and Fruma doesn't have much interest in Gavel. That leaves two options, Corkus and Dern. Going by the latest update, we can tell that Dern might not be as well organized like Fruma or Wynn, leaving only Corkus.

    Corkus stuff
    Corkus, if people don't know, is an island set up by Fruman refugees that fled Fruma and eventually ended up on the Corkus Island. These refugees are described as rebels and skilled craftsman, which means they have knowledge of the magic of the upper echelons of Fruma, which is seen to be far more advanced than Wynn's magic. They could have fled Fruma after seeing the horrors that the king/queen had been doing to its population. These people would go on to create their own government on the island and become far more advanced than either Wynn or Gavel. The one thing that is strange is how the refugees got brainwashed which may imply that there could be some sort of magic that surrounds the entire province that makes people forget of their time in Fruma but thats a guess.

    Now, Fruma's magic is also kept a closed secret in Fruma and having refugees flee the country, set up a government, and then use their knowledge of their magic to make advanced machines while, for the most part, sharing this knowledge with the other provinces would probably not sit well with Fruma. In response they could have declared a full out war but more of a war of espionage than battles. That becomes evident from the fact that, when you arrive on Corkus, a robot uprising has started. The cause of it is left unclear but it would make sense for Fruma to try and use Corkus's biggest advantage against them as human lives are more costly than robot. You can spend ages training a warrior but with the right programming, you can create far more robots that know just as much but in a fraction of the time. This is ironic as the uprising is quelled by one of the Fruma refugees that was expelled from Fruma, that refugee being the player.

    Fruma Stuff
    Now all the stuff mentioned above has already been speculated I believe after I just read a wiki sentence saying that it was speculated that Fruma and Corkus were in a war of sorts but that still doesn't answer what Fruma is completely like on the inside. speculation can be made based off of the Recover the Past quest and what can be noted is it looks as if Fruma might be going downhill and could be losing the war a bit before they caused the robot uprising. This is going off of what is seen in the quest, the reference to Avatar: TLA, and the fact it has been in isolation for a long time. How could they be losing the war you may ask, well, it might explain why the Fruman government doesn't want people to know that a war is happening at all. Their isolation could hurt them technologically, allowing the Corkans, with outside help, create technologies far superior, like the robots. With them losing, the government wouldn't want to show that the monarch and country wasn't all powerful as depicted and the people to rebel, thus the war would be lost. To solve this, they brainwash their population into thinking that a war wasn't happening at all, like what is shown in Avatar. If they find anyone that would question the will of their monarch, all they need to do is brainwash them even more and give them to Wynn as an act of "helping out," leaving a population loyal to the monarchy.

    Other evidence of their decline is the fact that Fruma is seen as a class society were the very few and powerful rule over the entire population with an iron fist and their isolation can play a factor. This mentality would cause the upper echelons to reroute resources to allow them to have a lavish lifestyle, allowing the populace to suffer pretty dramatically. This right here should sound familiar to how the French Revolution happened, meaning that Fruma is a giant powder keg. If the population ever found out that they were being brainwashed and a substantial enough revolt happened, bye bye Fruma. As far as their isolation goes, this could cause it to stagnate technologically, allowing for the other provinces to catch up.

    Looking back on this thing, this seems like I put more effort into this silly post than I would a high school essay and to think, I started thinking about this while doing dishes. That should be all as this is took forever to write down, hope you enjoyed it a little bit. The bits of history that I can see them using is Japan's isolation and the French Revolution and those combined with "There is no war in the walls of Ba Sing Se" vibe would make for a really interesting province, more so than Dern I would say. Just be sure to keep comments clean please as this is just speculation and I'm sure there is bound to be holes in it.
     
  2. TrapinchO

    TrapinchO retired observer of the wiki VIP+ Featured Wynncraftian

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    Actually, they didn't know magic wgen they got out
    So this isn't valid

    "
    The Corkians, in the lowlands, have forged a truly industrial nation.

    They did not possess any magical knowledge when they departed Fruma; such power was restricted only to those at the top of the Fruman hierarchy." - Relos' Library, chapter V
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    Otherwise it doesn't look bad
     
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    Justice Obliterator of Grooks VIP+

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    Interesting observation, I actually didn't know about Relos's library. It would make since if they had some level of knowledge of magic and I can still see a few of the upper echelons of Fruma leave for Corkus as well and then teach it to the general populace. If that isn't what happened, I can still see them learning Wynn's magic and combining it with their craftsmanship to create Electromagic unless that already existed before Corkus.
     
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  4. brilliantknight

    brilliantknight The Lucky Lootrunner.

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    pls stop making any theories about fruma.

    the reason why:

    we didn't know full fruma origins. all what we know, it's a totalitarian monarchy with tremendous motivation to be a gods in eyes of their peoples and control them. those who go against the fruma's rules will be brainwashed by the fruman amnesty magic.

    really, stop theorizing on this.

    that's all.
     
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    TrapinchO retired observer of the wiki VIP+ Featured Wynncraftian

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    So what that we know nothing about it?
    We know nearly nothing about Dern and we still theorise.
     
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    burble dragon fruit go roar VIP+

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    I don't see anything wrong with theorizing. It's not whether it's right or wrong that matters in fan theories, it's that it's fun to do.
     
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    brilliantknight The Lucky Lootrunner.

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    ye it was really fun, but theorizing on province, that we know only 5% instead of 95% remaning it's like theorizing about nothing.

    but according to TrapchinO's reply to my opinion:

    we know about dern more than fruma, because the dark being in the dern was reason of everything what happens in wynncraft.
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    but i still want to theorize about one thing in Fruma:

    Has Fruma been affected by Corruption?

    Because Portal's Curse affected to Humans, and we know that Humans are from Fruma...
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    "The provinces of Wynncraft other than Fruma are Wynn, Gavel, Corkus, and Dern."

    dern it's a Realm of Darkness, not a Province.
     
  8. Pixelæs

    Pixelæs just a mathematician

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    Fruma would be an interesting province to add, not to mention how you would even get in. After "relocating" you to Wynn, because of some "crime" you committed, the monarchy wouldn't be too keen on letting you back in. Allowing a "criminal" soldier that has helped and saved several provinces would put a damper on their brainwashing, and wouldn't be good propaganda for them, and some people would try to leave for Wynn, with some of them being upstanding people who just want to help, and would cause a huge exodus.

    I theorize that, probably, there is some kind of resistance, composed of either soldiers like yourself, or rebels who escaped prison. That would mess up the usual levelling of Wynncraft a bit, which has you travelling from city to city, but it's the only plausible solution.


    Also, since Fruma is pretty far away from the Portals (Dern and Nether), they probably have not been affected, otherwise, they wouldn't be shipping people into Wynn, but brainwashing them to fight the Corruption/Decay/Darkness (although, to be fair, Fruma's government is pretty dark).
     
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    You said stop theorizing...

    No, I don't think it is. The borders are closed and mountains separate the provices. No. (, not yet.)
     
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    It would actually be interesting if Fruma was infected to some degree by the Corruption or Decay. The mountains have been crossed in the past by Fruman refugees meaning it isn't impossible to get out of or get in to but it wouldn't be easy. Also, that would also be another reason to send humans to Wynn, to investigate the corruption and find ways to stop it. The problem I'd see with that idea is that the soldiers can't get back to Fruma for obvious reasons unless there's some kind of mind link magic we don't know about.

    If a resistance did form btw, it would have to be very hard to find as we can tell the Fruman Guard and monarchy have a tight grip over the country. That would also make sense for a Fruman guard like that to exist a little bit, not only to serve the monarch's will, but as a counter balance to a resistance. That is kind of obvious tbh as traditionally, you'd probably squash rebellions and uprisings with the military but don't quote me on that. What might work to deal with a resistance would be either a secret police force or an elite guard.
     
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    Pixelæs just a mathematician

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    In my personal canon, Fruma's monarchy would have been kinda like the Caritats, who were kind and generous, but was darkened by the Decay. Something like minds of the Fruman Monarchs slowly decaying and becoming more "evil."
     
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    TrapinchO retired observer of the wiki VIP+ Featured Wynncraftian

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    You know the Decay is on the other side of the world, right?
    On the other side it might be possible that it broke out on a second place
     
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    Justice Obliterator of Grooks VIP+

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    That is an interesting and cool thought tbh. The past monarchs may have wanted to help others and to stop the isolation of Fruma by allowing others to leave but overtime this becomes corrupted into the system were they just brainwash people who are opposed to the monarchy and essentially banish them.
    I believe it has been mentioned in Wynncraft that the Corruption and Decay could be the same but there are obvious differences with both of them.
     
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    Corruption - result of clash between darkness and light
    Decay - creatures of darkness infecter the Forest
     
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    Justice Obliterator of Grooks VIP+

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    Isn't the Decay also caused by a clash between light and dark? I mean, the opposing realm to the Decay is literally called the Realm of Light. The corruption was started because of mining operations for emeralds and it is mentioned in Aldorei's Secret Pt 2 that the greed of the villagers possibly caused the spread of the Decay. Also, the Decay started at a similar time to when the portal opened up in Wynn, which is mentioned in Aldorei's Secret Pt2 as well.
     
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    Pixelæs just a mathematician

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    I think the difference between Corruption and Decay is:
    Corruption: Dark attacks Light, more noticeable and spreads quickly
    Decay: Dark influences Light, slow but steady
     
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    According to Wynn Excavation Site D I believe, Corruption is caused when light and darkness clash. Think about it like Corruption is a sign of an old battlefield between Light and Dark. As for Light and Dark, I don't think we really know what they are . . .? Since the elves said that the Decay (which I think is another form of Corruption, though this may not be canon) was caused by villagers' greed, the way to defeat the Dark would probably be for everyone to . . . be good. XD
     
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    "However, when the two touch through influence, it is not twilight that is formed. But a land of corruption." WynnExcavation Site D, Stage 20

    The Nether was presumably a battlefield between Light and Dark, resulting in what we see now.

    The Decay infected Gavel, because the Light was weakened by the greed of villagers.
    The time coincidence might be caused by by the start of the War.

    Also in Taproot quest you can see 2 worms emerging from a hole and imfecting the land. And as you said, they have completely different effects

    @Saya help
     
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    It would appear not. In the kings recruit the corruption is close, but the fruman walls seem to still be holding it back.
     
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    Violet Knight Aspiring front-end developer

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    These walls truly can stop any war from ever appearing in Fruma!
     
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