Mage/Dark Wizard Lameme

https://wynndata.tk/s/hkfsov ewf lament(please don’t use)

https://wynndata.tk/s/swqn3a
When WFA does almost the same damage
Bruh moment

 

>https://wynndata.tk/s/y4r9sl
>https://wynndata.tk/s/zibtrw
>The definition of low damage mythic

 

Lament should give tons of rainbow sp and then -strength imo that could be really interesting. cuz yeah outside twa lament is kinda...meh

 

We need to buff ewf, maybe give it more damage cause it’s just twa but less damage, and without walk speed

 

EWF also has a ridiculous amount of health most of the time and defense is a lot less sketchy especially on healing classes like mage and shaman.

 

I mean, it does more than fatal if you try....
https://wynndata.tk/s/qg9nhl
...to make fatal bad.

 

There are no interesting and good spell EF items

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https://wynndata.tk/s/te5bp1
maybe it’s just a problem with gaea???

 

There are good earth items, good fire items and good water items and a buncha earth water items that are really nice

 

Good fire items don’t boost damage a lot, Earth also doesn’t boost spell damage by a lot
And water is boring and also doesn’t boost damage a lot since Gaea took up the memento space

 

Aquamarine, Vacuum, Pisces, Azurite, Elder Oak Roots for EW

Ophiuchus, Sizzling Shawl, Soulflare WF

Earth Breaker etc EF

EWF builds tend to get about 80 defense and 13k-15k health and similarish damage to TWF, TWA gets higher on mage cause raw spell but ends up being way glassier

 

TWF gets the benefit of being more hybrid-able and able to use cinderchain and the ability to use thunder weapons, earth legendaries need a buff.
EWF is just...weird
I guess it can use aphotic

And TWA has same damage with a little less sustain but has walk speed

 

Yeah most earth legendaries are eh but EWF functions pretty well using water/earth-water/water-fire weapons, it does one thing but it does it pretty fine.

 

https://wynndata.tk/s/jrgkmy
You can get a pretty darn okay build with EWF, even when you're completely misusing a weapon. Sizzling Shawl is insane if you can get around the -hpr, and using something like gaea-hewn with it makes for some pretty crazy builds. If I can make a decent spell build with inferno, someone actually competent could probably make something really good.

 

https://wynndata.tk/s/fjg8xo
something weird like this could work for earth spell. Honestly I think the biggest thing with earth spell is you can stack three grookworts accessories on it for low mana spells at relatively low intel.
Earth water fire is meant to be "spell tank" but in alot of ways doesn't do a great job at that because hpr outside of a fully hpr speced water fire air boreal tank build is bad. On top of that alot of earth (and some fire) weapons have -hpr so that the tanky aspect becomes just a counter for the -hpr of the weapon you are using. The high defense is usually really nice but that defense comes with the tradeoff of intel, a much harsher tradeoff than intel and agility cuz items with high sp of both exist. Like its much easier to get 129 intel and 80 agility than 129 intel and 80 defense.

Earth legendary weapons also just all around are not good. Outside of alka cometflinger...which as much as a hate to admit is kinda outclassed by orange lily. and then also outside of every shaman earth relik...earth spell is kinda bad. Bedruthan and blackaramath are not good. and then assassin and mage need to convert neutral weapons if they want a good earth legendary...

 

I'm actually using that ignis build, and I thought "wow, 1000 health/ 10 seconds sounds good" when I made it. It's useless in a fight; I basically had to rely on potions and defense for Qira. On the other hand, the build itself is pretty strong, just not the hpr.

 

This is pretty funny considering @Xavi said basically the exact opposite thing in AIn discord - that TWF is just TWA but better because it also has health sustain.

 

you need at minimum 3 and a half thousand hpr to be "useful" in a fight but really you need like 5000+ to actually be an hpr tank. 5000+ is only obtainable with full hpr armors or 3/4 hpr armors with boreal. But getting that much hpr you deal nearly no damage. I mean I like my air warrior tank with 7.5k hpr and can solo everything in the game with it but it takes me alot longer than it does with any other build that does high damage instead. Hpr also without mythics or crafteds is bad because the nothing is the only legendary that actually can get viable damage on an hpr build...and if you are build hpr mage please reevaluate your life.

i mean thunder water air relies on agility bullshit so not die. thunder water fire can use lifesteal quite easily. earth water fire is clearly MEANT to use hpr but hpr sucks so much cause they give it so little you might as well just slap soulflare onto any earth water fire build can get more reward than any amount of earth based hpr...

 

Yup. Which is why I advocate for hpr /10s -> /4s.

 

I get that 4s hpr makes it similar to ls but wouldn't we need alot of reblances to keep that from being a bit to strong? Like I know hpr got nerfed from 7.5-10 because Jaydon was abusing it leading the item team to thinking it was to powerful but realistically if we took the current hpr model to like 6 seconds wouldn't that be enough? Like i'm just thinking balance wise and what have you.

 

I think TWA has very decent low sp req damage boosters like steamjet, dark channeler, capricorn, which makes twa sometimes less glassy than it seems
When using high req thunder weapons TWF has way better sustain than TWA but otherwise I don’t see a big difference