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Any Class Atlas Inc Build Aid

Discussion in 'Class Builds' started by Madkurre, Jul 10, 2018.

  1. by2011

    by2011 category creator VIP+

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    No, the faster your attack speed, the more damage your spells do (as a general rule, some weapons have such high/low base damage that they are exception to this).

    I'm not confident in what the numbers/calculations are (Druser probably knows E), but essentially, the game will take your attack speed into account when calculating spell damage. A 100-100 neutral damage Super Slow attack speed bow will do less damage then a 90-90 neutral damage Super Fast attack speed bow.

    Be aware though that the +x tier attack speed identification doesn't change this at all, the only value the game accounts for is what's listed at the top of the weapon. For instance, Peaceful Rest is calculated as a Super Fast weapon, not a Super Slow one despite its -30 tier attack speed.

    edit: wtf kurre's response didn't appear
     
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    Qzphs Unskilled Adventurer VIP+

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    ewa spell steal stinger build.

    earth powders please. survivability > damage. no mythics.
     
  3. Werveh

    Werveh numba 1 shaman CHAMPION

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    here's a cool build that abuses the high base quake and has... ok... spells...
    https://wynndata.tk/s/z98d5t
     
  5. Druser

    Druser ele defs don't matter HERO Featured Wynncraftian

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    Okay so

    - Consider the case in which all weapons had a single attack speed. In this situation, the damage numbers of weapons would be relatively similar, since they all attack at the same rate . Let's ignore spells for now.
    - Now suppose weapons could have different attack speeds. Let's take the existing seven attack speeds as an example. You couldn't just have Slow weapons with similar damage numbers as Very Fast weapons - the latter can attack just over twice as fast as the former, so for good balance they'd generally have about half as much damage - this gives them all similar damage per second. Incidentally, this is where baselines come in - the baseline damage for Slow is about 2.07 times larger than the baseline damage for Very Fast, and individual weapons are balanced according to those baselines. So for example an especially offensive weapon might be 1.15x baseline damage.
    - Taking spells into account - spell base damages are calculated by applying a multiplier to the base damage (this is what the spell multiplier is - for example, Bomb Arrow has a 2.5x multiplier). Of course, if weapon attack speeds vary, the base damages will vary too, and quite significantly. Because of this, another multiplier, generally called the attack speed multiplier, is also applied. This is just multiplying the base damage of the weapon by the attacks per second of the weapon's attack speed*. That allows weapons of all speeds to have similar damages*.

    * there's a lengthy tangent here involving discrepancies between nominal and real attack speeds but it's not really directly relevant to this topic
    * another tangent about baseline balancing and powders, but there is enough variation here that it's not particularly useful for building
     
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  6. Qzphs

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    wf spring. can be tri-elemental into anything. looking for spell (spell steal is fine but no atlas please). 11k+ hp. defensive sp > damage. no mythics except resurgence, but i'd like to see alternatives that don't use it though.
     
  7. DoctorAgency

    DoctorAgency Well-Known Adventurer

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    Hmmmmmmm A mage build, preferably thunder (thats all)
     
  8. Druser

    Druser ele defs don't matter HERO Featured Wynncraftian

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    https://wynndata.tk/s/s5n3cx resurgence with spring is kind of meh anyway, here's a tanky spring build

    https://wynndata.tk/s/y5vmdb
     
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  9. RoSeNur

    RoSeNur Warrior cultist CHAMPION

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    Class: warrior
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    Preferences: ye I know all say warrior sucks but try ur best for pvp hunting, please
     
  10. nickyxiesters

    nickyxiesters MollyCai

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    Preferences: Use gale force, include variations if there are any, also do i always just put 3 air powders on it?
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    Romukami Well-Known Adventurer CHAMPION

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    Preferences: Water element if it is good.
     
  14. Philip_1s

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  15. m0chu | anson

    m0chu | anson gaze of th e snowbank

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    assassin build pleas
    playstyle is hybrid
    no ornate shadow and be sure to abuse concentration because it is a broken powder ability
     
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    this is my personal build (vacuum gang! ) I use ornate instead of vacuum but it’s a good replacement. You can use atlas instead of diahydro bracelet if you want more ls. Meme is a good representation of the build.
    https://wynndata.tk/s/sa4lvg
     

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  18. m0chu | anson

    m0chu | anson gaze of th e snowbank

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    thank you kindly friend
     
  19. Muchwag

    Muchwag Don’t call me Poliwhirl! VIP+

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    https://wynndata.tk/s/1tmuah





    https://wynndata.tk/s/uselyh





    https://wynndata.tk/s/u4fwm9



    Since you have made a new post I am just going to skip over your old one. Also I have noticed you have been trying to find an archer build for a while now. I recommend joining our discord here to get a specific build just right for you. https://discord.gg/Sw5dKQq


    https://wynndata.tk/s/vnzr48


    https://wynndata.tk/s/8ydor5


    https://wynndata.tk/s/uselyh


    https://wynndata.tk/s/2gfu76
     
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  20. ResponserHD

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    Preferences: able to do legendary island and hive