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Media Major Id Tier List

Discussion in 'Wynncraft' started by Point0_Seconds, Jan 6, 2020.

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  1. Skylaar

    Skylaar erm HERO

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    Im just to lazy to use Escape off of high places, so I just jump.
     
  2. Saya

    Saya you win at uwynn HERO

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    Madness is the best major id, other than maybe greed. It patches up all the classes' weaknesses, allowing for shenanigans that would otherwise be impossible (like messing up segments of the new cool quests). It allows you to fully utilize the potential of other classes while allowing you to play the class you prefer, gives you sustain in the form of healing/totems, and buffs you with escape/war scream. It also pairs exceptionally well with sorcery, letting an archer drop multiple totems or a mage to cast arrow shield. In addition, it promotes creative building with the excellently designed item Pandemonium. Did you know that Salted made this item? If a creator of the server made the item, it has to be perfect.


    but seriously it's nowhere near bottom tier, wtf? It's somewhere in the middle, definitely more useful than magnet which basically only inconveniences you

    lightweight is kinda useless

    hawkeye is overpowered (even after the inevitable nerf)

    greed is god tier, deserves a tier of its own
     
  3. MikAsk123

    MikAsk123 Buff Warrior

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    Stupidest excuse for being an unskilled archer. How hard is it to click left-left-left.
     
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  4. Point0_Seconds

    Point0_Seconds Well-Known Adventurer VIP+

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    right madness is the best major ID, I'm gonna sit there and wait several minutes to get vanish to cast so I can hit for 80% extra damage on a few spells with my scuffed build that requires 45 in all sp seems like a worthy trade off MAYBE in the best case scenario. I do agree magnet is mostly an inconvenience which is why I put it near the bottom but I found it to be useful when grinding bulk ingredients in spots with odd terrain (namely gollier iron cave), lightweight is just in general a good id no fall damage would always be nice to have on anything, it's pure benefit. I also don't understand how people think greed is so good, yes you can recover hp by killing mobs, but the only time I ever need to recover hp is in the middle of a boss fight (where usually mobs that drop emeralds would be scarce) or in a loot run which I have an infinite supply of potions.
     
  5. Saya

    Saya you win at uwynn HERO

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    1. meta builds are boring

    2. stealing is why greed is so good (let emeralds stay there until you need them)
     
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  6. Point0_Seconds

    Point0_Seconds Well-Known Adventurer VIP+

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    stealing has a cap at 2 emeralds which makes it unreliable and if the meta is boring then you shouldn't play the game or fight against the meta being good
     
  7. SchoolMeatloaf

    SchoolMeatloaf Well-Known Adventurer CHAMPION

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    Sorcery is a good ID and it is very useful but god sometimes I don't want to teleport twice or more...
     
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  8. Crokee

    Crokee Nudist poking eyes CHAMPION

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    No no no, the cap is 5 emeralds. Did you also know that other people, not necessarily you, can pick it up and they still heal from that as well? Combo with a stealing accessory and you’re nearly unstoppable.
     
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  9. Benjin

    Benjin Famous Adventurer

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    *laughs in Shaman*
     
  10. Bart (MC)

    Bart (MC) Ex-Item Maker & Day Counter (MC) CHAMPION

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    Remember, that tier list rated major ids based on the items they appear on. Although I still don't think Madness is the best major id outside of that, having to use Pandemonium is honestly enough to put Madness down a ton. My personal tier list (also taking in account what items the major ids appear on):

    S Tier: Trascendence, Greed, Sorcery
    A Tier: Hawkeye (keep in mind that it's still bugged right now), Roving Assassin, Entropy
    B Tier: Madness, Taunt, Heart of the Pack
    C Tier: Guardian, Lightweight (only archer mains think this is high tier)
    D Tier: Cavalryman, Magnet (although it might combo insanely well with Greed)
    Dumpster Fire Tier: Saviour's Sacrifice
    Absolute Buffoon Tier: Plague

    Oh, and on the Greed debate: using https://wynndata.tk/s/irnqcv I managed to tank out a 22k war, without any stat or health pots. Planning on putting Vindicator and Ornate Shadow Cover on it later, which'll only make it better.
     
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  11. Saya

    Saya you win at uwynn HERO

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    It was a joke, madness is a solid midtier. I still think fixed Hawkeye is (will be) oppressively good.
     
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  12. Dondasch

    Dondasch Hadal gaming HERO

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    How tf is sorcery S tier? Have you ever actaully used time rift in a non-meme build?

    It makes you feel like you're playing on a 700 ping, constantly repeating the wrong spells like 6x and additionally canceling your inputs. For me it's basically unusable because of its unreliablility. It feels like you're playing tandem-mode with someone who keeps forgetting the right spell inputs and just randomly presses buttons.

    Without it, time rift would actually be op.
     
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    Iboju absolute swag male CHAMPION

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    I’ve used it in a viable build and I like it. It can easily double your dps with things like smoke bomb. The only negative side is double movement spell but otherwise its good.
     
  14. Druser

    Druser ele defs don't matter HERO Featured Wynncraftian

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    True Archer mains cancel fall damage with falling Escape :P

    Magnet + Greed is worse than Greed, you want to be able to control when you take the healing.
     
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    coolname2034 Formerly known as NPCGrian HERO

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    Madness gang rise up against this slander
     
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    Mistrise Mystic Surfing winds and chasing windfalls HERO

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    Lightweight is dogshit
     
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    Crokee Nudist poking eyes CHAMPION

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    Heart of the Pack sounds good in theory, but in practice, it’s pretty bad. I’m not sure of the range of healing it provides, but the amount of healing is pretty insignificant to the point where it’s unreliable, if hpr is around 1000 or less. If it’s above that, it’s ok I guess, but then you still have to be close to other players so they benefit from your heals. However said, if one has an hpr of like 3000+, the regen will be quite significant, and probably pretty good. I have only tried out 1800 hpr, and people said it is quite insignificant.
     
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    Asthae ... HERO

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    Only real men would understand.
     
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    Druser ele defs don't matter HERO Featured Wynncraftian

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    Every major ID doesn't have to be a gamechanger.
     
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    Benjin Famous Adventurer

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    Well, Lightweight just seems... stupid? You can cancel out fall dmg through a horse, a movement spell, ANYTHING REALLY. I suppose Lightweight could maybe make the user levitate if they're constantly shifting (using the levitation effect ofc), but I also thought about making the user fall like a chicken, even though the Slow Falling effect was added in Minecraft 1.14
     
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