Olm, Runes, And Cosmic Magic. Theory/lore 2

Hi.

The last post I made seems to have been read by a lot of people, so I decided to continue posting my findings. Here is what we know about the Olm and their fallen civilization, as well as the other ancient group and Cosmic Magic.

The History of the Olm and Rune Guardians:

Before the civilizations of humans and villagers but after the time of Giants, there were two ancient civilizations that existed. One in Wynn known as the Olm, and one in Gavel that was lead by what are now called Rune Guardians. The Olm focused heavily on the seeing and manipulation of the past, as is told to the player in the Temple of Time: “you can visit the memories of this land“ [Quest: Fate of the Fallen]. The state of time Valley is because of the sheer power of time magic which is implied in Deja Vu by Old Man Martyn, “They [the Olm] had odd powers. They ended up distorting time itself. '' The Olm also were also knowledgeable on Cosmic Magic, as they set up an observatory in one of their major cities to watch for meteors [Silent Expanse Discovery: Final Moments]. During their reign, meteors must have been as common in Wynn as they now are in Gavel, with them often bombarding the mountains around what is now the expanse. We know that the Olm are not Native to Wynn [Wynn Plains Discovery: Timeless Ruin], and due to the placement of their ruins, probably came from over the mountains to the south of Wynn. The Olm did not go out to the sea, but they had contact with the other group that lived at the time because both used Runic Magic [Quest: The Olmic Rune]. They likely had a Theocracy for their government as we know about their High Priest [Silent Expanse Discovery: Fate of the Olm], and their largest building in their town found in the Silent Expanse, is their cathedral. The religious groups seem to have had the most magical power in the sectors of Time and Runic Magics, as they controlled the Tol altar and their High Priest could see the future. It is unknown what their relation with Cosmic Magic was, but we know from Final Moments that they had some knowledge of Crystals and Meteors but it is unclear of what they did with it during their time in power. Lastly, we know their language Wynnic, which looks like it is made from runes.


As those who have done the Silent Expanse discoveries know, the Olm were defeated when the Realm of Darkness invaded and they could not act in time [Silent Expanse Discovery: Fate of the Olm]. When they were defeated, the Beast from Dern took them into its realm [Silent Expanse Discovery: Final Moments], and they were warped by exposure to whatever lies beyond the portal. Some of those who survived managed to escape using crystals that had been buried in the mountains around what is now the Silent Expanse. Their escape was easily noticed by the now watching Eye, and so they attempted to hide in the jungle, as far away from it as they could. They went mad here, and sealed themselves into a ruin as far away from the eye as they could get [Quest: Wynnic Excavation Part IV]. These crystals will be mentioned later, as they are a very important and complex part of Wynn and Gavel’s histories.


When the Olm fell, the remaining empire of Rune Guardians (who have far less known about them), were the last to remain. They are only known to have specialized in Runic Magic, but their focus on it gave them great power. How Rune Magic is known to work is that individual runes are are merged together to create things, ranging from Weapons [Item: Nebraska Floodbringer, Alka Comet-Flinger, Zephra Shredder, etc.], portals to other worlds and times [World: The Forgery], and even other runes [World: Tol Altar]. Although runes can make many things, they do have a limit in that different types of runes cannot be combined together without consequences. This was the downfall of the Rune Guardians, when they attempted to combine Az, Nii and Ek [Item: Az]. The combination failed horribly and destroyed their entire civilization, leaving only a few survivors who continued to work around the remains of their lands and in the Forgery.


Most of the oldest ruins you see are not actually from these groups, as many are pre-portal human ruins in Wynn and ruins from many groups that have lived in Gavel. This is the very best I can get for descriptions of these groups unless more facts were to be uncovered which I have not found. Hopefully this explains something.


Cosmic Magic:

Madness isn’t the only thing that comes from Cosmic Magic. Each meteor has their own unique effects, can come mixed with different colors, and have popped up all over, so let’s describe the ones we know of and their importance:


White: The first meteor type discovered by the Gavelian government, it was studied by Yahya, Nohno, Mehme, and Sohso. They did some of the earliest work on the study of Cosmic Magic, and in their study found four (not three) meteors. White is the strongest in damaging the minds of those exposed to it, which is why they all (with the exception of Sohso), are known to have gone mad [Quest: ???]. White also has the strongest pure magical abilities, with massive raw arcane energy stored inside of it [Item: Pure]. Since the scientists went mad, the government has worked to keep these meteors away from the public and open only for study when given permission [Quest: Star Theif].


Purple: This meteor type can be found at the top of the Tower of Ascension [Nesaak Tundra Discovery: The Lone Telescope] and buried deep under Lake Gylia [Quest Purple and Blue]. The one on top of the Tower of Ascension has “caused various strange happenings in the surrounding region” [Nesaak Tundra Discovery: The Lone Telescope], such as rising large amounts of ice up out of the ground, and creating many magical beings such as the ones that are inside of the Tower itself. When combined with the Blue Meteor, it boosts creatures intelligence and slows aging, such as was done to the fish under Lake Gylia and the scientist Nedlom [Quest: Purple and Blue]. It is unknown if these effects occur without the presence of a Blue Meteor. Finally, Purple Meteors have a crystalline form which makes up part of the inside of the main rocky meteor [Quest: Purple and Blue]. This crystal form may be what holds up parts of the sky islands, as the one studied by Ynnos in One Thousand Meters Under. Ynnos was funded by Wynn Excavation (or more likely their Gavel counterpart), who after being defeated by the player, pulled out and left Ynnos under funded. Because of this, most of our information on these crystals comes from Order of the Grook, where in the Magical Effects class, one can see that the crystal has the power to distort gravity in its pure form. This gravity distortion ability may be why the meteor floats above the Tower of Ascension.


Blue: This was the first meteor to be discovered by the four brothers, specifically this one was found by Yahya [Quest: ???]. Alone, the blue meteor causes madness in those around it, which is why Yahya is obsessed with Mushrooms [Quest: Mushroom Man]. Mixed in with the meteor rock, is a crystal substance, which also appears in the Wynn Excavation Questline in their Site B. We know they are the same because both Blue Meteor from Purple and Blue and this crystal substance alter the land (such as crystals that grow on the walls of the room), and alter creatures in the area (the water spirits found in the cave). It should also be noted that the placement of this crystal near Twain Mansion is not by chance, as Amadel mentions that “four individuals who inhabited a mansion”, hid crystal shards [Quest: Wynn Excavation Site C]. The placement of the Blue Meteor’s crystal was done here because it was close enough to their mansion that they could make sure it was safe. The maddening effects of the meteors could have even been the cause for their breaking up, and Theorick acting so strange [Nesaak Tundra Discovery: Torn in Twain].


Yellow: This meteor was found by Mehme [Quest: ???] , but other than that holds little importance outside of its crystal form This meteor, like the others causes madness in those exposed to it, with Mehme becoming obsessed with nuts… for some reason [Quest: From the Bottom]. In its crystal form, this meteor appeared in the Almuj desert, and was used by the Pharaoh Nebak [Quest: Wynn Excavation Site A]. We know from the Wynn Excavation questline, that these crystals have massive power, so it is worth speculating that this was the source of the staff used by the region’s ancient emperor, and why they had such great power. We can even see that the emperor’s eyes are bright yellow in the flashback where Hashr kills him [Desert Discovery: Desert Royal Residence]. For this reason, we can assume that this crystal was not hidden by the Twains, as the crystal would already be here.


Red: This meteor was found by Nohno, and was the last of the brothers findings. Like the previous, it causes madness, and obsession with one's hobbies. It has a mixture of red crystals inside of it, which appear in the Volcanic Islands. This is proven by the region discovery message that the Volcanic Isles are “a relatively new formation”, which follows the previously mentioned idea that meteors augment the land around where they fall. This meteor created a volcanic landscape, which makes sense because it was already shown that its meteor form it was partially burnt [Quest: ???]. The actual meteor has melted away, leaving only its crystalline center where it was likely placed by the Twains at what is now the deepest depths of the Isles.


Green: Although never seen in its meteor form, it is to be assumed that it was found by Sohso before he left for Fruma [World: Large White Meteor, Secret Room]. Very little is known about it because we have only seen its crystal form, but it likely was similar to the other three. Its crystal was hidden deep in the jungle, near the Olm who originally used these crystals to escape from the grasp of the Dernic Beast. We know the Twains found at least some of these meteors, but it is unlikely that they found this specific one as there is no evidence of them being in the area and this specific crystal is right near where the original users are buried.


Although the lore is very undefined as to Cosmic Magic’s origins, there is one line that points us in the right direction. The secret room in the White Meteor has a message that is likely written by Mehme, which claims that something “something cast this [Cosmic Magic] on the rock… perhaps we are not… alone”. From this many questions are brought up, as to who or what could create magic strong enough to allow the Olm to escape Dern, and why they sent it. If you know anything about this please post it below.

Closure:

I hope you enjoyed reading this, and you learned something new. As always there are problems with my theories, and if you spot them, I would like to know what you think (I may have an answer). I was going to include the Decay and Qira, but it turns out that Gavel's lore is not this easy to figure out so I haven't finished with those two topics yet.

Thanks!

 

i wonder what wynncraft aliens look like

 

Perhaps researching into Wybels has some worth for this theory. After all, they are one of the few creatures who are interested in cosmic magic (see Orange Wybel, Stardew lore)

"We are not alone" could be referring to the question of life in outer cosmos.

Uncovering this mystery can also lead to perhaps the greatest impact to our understanding of Wynncraft. The answer to the biggest question: is the Wynncraft earth canonically round, flat or other?

 

Didn't we already see them when we were flung onto the Moon?

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It's hollow, The Void confirms this, but as the presence of volcanoes? No idea

 

Why does it have to be hollow? The void regions could just be a gigantic hole?

 

Not likely, the area behind the Eldritch Outlook also appears to be Void, and we know corruption spikes go very deep underground, so it wouldn't be a surprise if they come out of the Void.

 

How about void holes?
Are they just pure void magic, why are they only present in the silent expanse? And only in the valley? (Are there any behind the outlook?
Why do some mobs impersonate void holes? In 1k meters under, the void changes people. Void magic seems to be another kind of magic in of itself, although items(void items, ominous wind,etc.) suggest it is related to earth/air?
Earth air is also related to dust(dust skater, dune storm and a lot of others stuff) I am too lazy to think and I should be revising for tomorrow’s exams

 

Well, how likely is it that the world is hollow?

 

Well, we know that Cataclysm is supposedly the reason the Sky Islands were broken up in the first place, and chances are the Void Islands were always there, also, and it's just as unlikely that the Sky Islands were a gigantic hole, also, actually, if Wynncraft (or Minecraft to be exact) is on a spherical globe, it'd have layers, but if you can see the literal bottom of the world, then the world is hollow, but chances are WYnncraft is flat and if you jump off the edge of the world, you're probably gone, now whether the world is circular or square isn't clear.

 

Well, I would continue arguing my point but I know it’s meaningless .-.

Instead let’s talk about other things that wouldn’t and would be possible depending on the shape of the Wynncraft world.

1. Gravity wouldn’t exist since that would require a lot of mass at the centre of the planet regardless of if it’s a hollow sphere or a flat world.

2. If the planet is flat but still has gravity somehow, it would get weaker the longer you get away from the centre of the world, meaning you would have normal gravity somewhere in the ocean but if you were in let’s say, molten heights, the gravity would be flipped 90 degrees.

3. Even if there was a bigger world outside of the current map, which there technically is since Dern, Fruma and hopefully a lot of other places haven’t been added yet, the gravity would still be flipped a large amount in places further away from the centre, in this case the ocean, which would mean that it would still be like walking up a mountain while walking on in what’s reality, flat ground in the molten heigths.

And no, this is not a try to continue arguing my point. It’s just a few fun things I came to think of depending on what shape the wynncraft world is lol

 

The element of an item means nothing towards the lore. Also void holes you may have noticed, scattered around the Dark Obelisk, so they likely are related to it (1.20 hopefully will give a quest). The Void is very much unexplored for its effects on things, but that is because we haven’t gotten enough lore about its effects. There also is no evidence of the void having its own magic, and it really doesn’t make sense as the void is the space between realms, not a realm itself [Silent Expanse Discovery: Space Between Worlds].

No actually we don’t, as its lore has no mention of it:
"Despite the existence of the Nether Portal, few believe that it is possible to open such rifts with sheer force alone. None believe that a tool with enough power to accomplish such a monumental feat could exist. And yet..."
You may want to read my first post, it is a bit out of date but it will likely explain this further for you.

Yes we do go on the moon, disproving that Wynncraft is flat. But as you post mentions, yes you do meet aliens who crash landed on the moon. But these can’t be the ones because they aren’t advanced enough and do not mention any form of Cosmic Magic. The you say the world is hollow, but it is not. The Void is another dimension, so the sky islands leading into it is because there is a hole between realms there.

Some of you should read my original point as it explains some of the things you are talking about. For things I didn’t address that people recommend I look into, I am but I have a hard time writing for them when they aren't having enough lore in game yet, which is often the case :(

https://forums.wynncraft.com/threads/war-of-the-realms-lore-theories-wall-of-text.257611/

 

It's old lore did, no idea why the lore was changed though

 

Well sky islands lore didn’t make sense if Cataclysm had caused the split, so that is why they likely changed it.

 

I mean

Wybels

 

Gravity could exist and could be uniform if the ‘disc’ is infinitely projected outwards
At least I believe

 

No, gravity would be projected as a cube.

 

What do you mean? Like the field lines are projected from the center uniformly???

 

Say that you have a planet shaped like a cube. If the gravity went out in a sphere, the very center of each face would "recieve" the gravity first. The corners would recieve it last. If the gravity went out in a cube, each location would recieve the gravity aat the same time.
This was really hard to explain without images.

 

Ok I get what you mean
But assuming the wynncraft world is a plane, or a disc(flat earth) if the plane is extended infinitely outwards, gravity could still exist and will be uniform throughout the world I think

 

Yes, although we all know the world of Wynncraft will never truly be infinite.