Media So I Also Soloed Li With Shaman But I Used Two Pots Which Is What We Call A Bruh Momento

So after doing an entire playthrough of Shaman, I also went to do LI with Shaman. Unfortunately, because I'm a panicky little bastard, I used two pots so I can't put no pot in the title.
Anyways, here's a thing.

Also, guys.

Please.
Just do it with me.

 

this run does not count 2 pots used



you are a disgrace


yy does not approve






gg e

 

still fewer pots than i use with heal lament ):

 

why tf u do every quest on a class that will be reset??????? wtf

 

Mostly because I wanted to do essentially an entire play through, as it helps me get used to the class way more than just straight up power leveling through the entire game, which I easily could've done should I have chosen to do so. It also helps me understand the pros and cons of the class throughout the entire game, which is arguably as important as end game (if not more important) as a result of the general player base having to go through this process with little knowledge of the game itself. Granted, the general player base may not pick what is arguably the hardest class to use as the description implies (and, imo, it is the hardest unless you ls abuse out the ass, because ls is ridiculously powerful atm due to how their melees work), but we'll just have to wait and see.

However, I originally skipped some quests that really do not matter at all (ex. Lost Tower, Maiden Tower, etc.) at the time I was there level, but eventually went back to just make sure said quests weren't bugged. Plus, if there was any class that would bug out quests and such, it's almost definitely going to be the new one. Luckily for the CT, the majority of the quests and other content (said other content namely being boss altars and dungeons, and speaking of which I should probably go make sure the clock mystery is fine) worked as intended.

Ik this is more of a joke question, but I've seen people genuinely ask why, so that's my personal reasoning behind it.

TL;DR Basically, please do ??? with me so I can make sure it's not bugged out and I can definitely not brag about how I did it in the beta thanks.

 

ill do ??? If you play destiny 2 noob sauce epic loser

 

I will not fall for your dirty tricks garbagio glutton abuser!!!!!!

 

I'll help with '???' on the beta again if you want

 

I've been told the lifesteal and mama steal thing isn't a bug actually.

 

That's broken af. Especially the mana steal.

 

I was informed of the same thing by Chrono, but either way, like Druser said, it's busted af and needs a nerf.

 

Ehh, I'd like to counter argue with my own casual observation and my own opinion that's moderately agreeable. Think of it like this; some classes are meant for a different playstyle or they seem to work better if you use a certain archetype. A few examples include Mage / archer for spell spamming, warrior for mostly melee, and assassin for spell spamming/mana stealing. While each class can play each different playstyle, some just seem to be innately better with a certain playstyle than others. So with this strange thought process, I determined Shaman will benefit most from mana stealing.

That's why I'm not bothered by it's ridiculous ms / ls potential, I think it's fine as long as it doesn't get buffed to reduce as much damage as Warrior. Think about it, with Shaman innately receiving more damage, a life steal build definitely needs more life steal than other classes would.

:P yay for opinions and counter argument!

 

I wouldn't call it a good thing that classes benefit from certain playstyles more than others. A class shouldn't favor playstyles within itself*. Also I'd like to note that Mage definitely doesn't favor high spellspam (or even spell in particular, mage melee is pretty good), and Assassin is far from the sole domain of mana steal (it only looks that way because Black has dominated the Assassin meta for so long). Shaman already has a counterpoint to its lower class defense - namely, the ability of Aura to shove mobs around so easily. Even without any mana boosts, a melee build can still keep mobs locked up fairly well (and of course, Shaman melee has pretty good range too).

*note the keyword. This doesn't imply that certain classes can't have higher damage than others, but they shouldn't have playstyle weightings. That;s the whole complaint about spell warrior - a full half of the class is made much less workable because of the spell designs.

 

ill do ??? with you if you promise to finally do silent expanse quests with me

 

I strongly disagree. Life steal and mana steal currently on Shaman is almost on the same level as when warscream and bomb arrow calculated life steal and mana steal, which says a hell of a lot since both of those were overpowered for just full sustain with absolutely 0 skill outside of casting one single spell (and caused me to believe this was a bug to begin with). Yes, you have to get up and close to the mob with Shaman to hit all melees, but you can easily counter this with ws and/or agi/defense (mostly defense) with minimal effort because the proc rate is so high. Plus, if your positioning is good, you can hit at least two of the melees on the mob if you're near the edge of the totem (or if the mob just has a really huge hitbox), which is still double the chance for a proc. This is also not mentioning that in a group of mobs that proc right basically sky rockets to guaranteed at least once, typically more. While yes, this "group of mobs" idea applies to every class, it especially applies to Shaman because they have basically 3* the proc rate on one single mob, and now you take into account that it's that the 3* proc rate is going off on multiple mobs.

 

Yup. I had 3 mana steal and was able to sustain Auraspam until literally 20 mana cost against maybe 5 mobs.