Any Class What Is Considered As A Good Endgame Hp Or Dps?

Emogla3 · Nov 11, 2019

I'd like to know what is considered as a good endgame dps or hp. Right now I'm an assassin with around 9650 hp and 3,5k dps with melee attack. Would I need more? Is it enough? What's a good spell dps?

Prqnk3d · Nov 11, 2019

Druser said: ↑

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Regarding dps on various classes, here are some pretty typical numbers for endgame builds with no mythics. I've determined the spell numbers through setting up spell cycles and testing their viability for various speeds of casting and other factors. It's not nearly as rigorous as I'd like it to be unfortunately, but it should be pretty accurate overall. The range accounts for approximations I made, and also for the differences between tankier and glassier builds - e.g. for spells, the range is roughly the difference between builds with about 40-60 defensive sp, and builds with about 90-120 defensive sp. I used mana regen-based builds for this because it was simpler, so obviously the analysis is not complete (not to mention completely unrepresented playstyles like heavy melee), but it's better than just guessing entirely.

So, grain of salt, but probably pretty indicative, generally speaking.

Fast Melee Mage - 6-12k nominal* dps
Fast Melee Warrior - 7-15k nominal dps
Fast Melee Assassin - 8-17k nominal dps
Fast Melee Archer - 9-20k nominal dps (not that it matters because it's single-target)
Spell Mage, medium skill - 6-9k dps (7-8 mana regen 129 Int, or 9-10 mana regen, 105 Int, average about 2.5 Meteors per cycle, and the occasional improper aim)
Spell Mage, high skill - 9-13k dps (9-10 mana regen 129 Int, or 11-13 mana regen 105 Int, very accurate timing and aim on Meteors at nearly 4 per cycle)
Spell Warrior, medium skill - 6-9k dps (8-10 mana regen, 114 Int, generally can't/don't interrupt spells, but pretty efficient at following up quickly, dps can go higher if there's a very low ceiling)
Spell Warrior, high skill - 10-16k dps (ideal handling of mob knockback and perfect Uppercut canceling, 17-19 mana regen 114 Int)
Spell Assassin, medium skill - 12-16k dps (10-12 mana regen, 105 Int, 5 or 6 spell cycle, little to no handling of Multihit knockback)
Spell Assassin, high skill - 20-30k dps (17-19 mana regen, 105 Int, 9+ spells per cycle, ideal handling of Multihit knockback. If you're extremely skilled you can actually go higher than this with careful use of mana steal on top of the maxed out mana regen, in theory, but that's hard to actually produce in a build)
Spell Archer, medium skill - 12-20k dps (midrange safe-ish play with either mainly Bombs for the lower end, or Bombs and Storms for the higher end)
Spell Archer, high skill - 25-40k dps (point-blank range with careful stunlocks and Arrow Storm priority, I'm calling this high skill because while most players can do this on occasion to exploit gaps in a mob's spells or whatnot, it takes a pretty skilled player to maintain this playstyle constantly without dying somewhat often)

*High skill players can come very close to 100% of nominal dps on any attack speed. A medium skill player will generally reach about 70-80% of nominal dps on Super Fast, and higher percentages on slower attack speeds.
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hp doesn't matter that much just right click your potions quickly and dont walk into multihits or meteors, >8k is probably fine

Druser · Nov 11, 2019

Prqnk3d said: ↑

hp doesn't matter that much just right click your potions quickly and dont walk into multihits or meteors, >8k is probably fine
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You will not generally find me opposing that position.

Endercomet · Nov 11, 2019

Emogla3 said: ↑

I'd like to know what is considered as a good endgame dps or hp. Right now I'm an assassin with around 9650 hp and 3,5k dps with melee attack. Would I need more? Is it enough? What's a good spell dps?
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Melee reaches 10k hp and 17k dpswith no lifesteal with flameshot https://wynndata.tk/s/wpbgm1

Jirayut · Nov 16, 2019

Imma say average build tends to reach 10k hp (with agi/def)
For melee dps it depends on weapon but average should be around 10k++
And archer’s bomb& mage’s meteor around 9-11k for non mythic(a lil lower on mage)
No idea on warrior
For assassin uhhh 9-10k spin is fine but I think after the spin nerf will be around 7-8k spin
Plz don’t kill me for warrior part

Endercomet · Nov 17, 2019

Warrior 10k uppercut
Except spell warrior sucks

Endercomet · Nov 17, 2019

Jirayut said: ↑

Imma say average build tends to reach 10k hp (with agi/def)
For melee dps it depends on weapon but average should be around 10k++
And archer’s bomb& mage’s meteor around 9-11k for non mythic(a lil lower on mage)
No idea on warrior
For assassin uhhh 9-10k spin is fine but I think after the spin nerf will be around 7-8k spin
Plz don’t kill me for warrior part
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Mage melee 7k-9k

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