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Idk Does Language Count As Art? A Small Sample Of Cohedic, A Language Of Mine

Discussion in 'Your Work' started by Shkol2, Oct 1, 2019.

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  1. Shkol2

    Shkol2 Erevan Galanodel, 320-ish, Sorcerer/Warlock

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    !!!INFO: COHEDIC CLASSROOM !!!!

    This is terribly outdated lol.

    Hello!

    For a while now, I've been working on a language that has gone through many changes. In terms of name it went from Laihiric (Lähjir then Läzao) to Cohedic (Xîrizao).
    It's a language I designed for fun, and wanted to share with you.
    Now, this document is just an introduction with a very small amount of words, so if you want a list of words, I can provide.

    The document is about the pronunciation of the romanised phonemes, the general structure of the language and a little bit about the writing. More will be added in time.

    Please feel free to leave feedback and thoughts.

    https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Smx0GM6PAUIOIP2ZxyCOdppznErWS_tIH2jAYcsB6_8/edit

    You can post your qualified guesses for the challenge sentence in spoilers.


    PS: If I'm posting this in the wrong section, please tell me.​
     
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  2. Cami (But a cat)

    Cami (But a cat) Wynn Vtuber CHAMPION

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    Art is in many forms and subjective. I think what you've done is pretty damn cool, to come up with your own language and not get bored, pretty good feat I must say.

    Nice one! (Personally I'm not great at judging art in any form :()
     
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  3. Shkol2

    Shkol2 Erevan Galanodel, 320-ish, Sorcerer/Warlock

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    The main thing was if people use the art prefix it's generally drawings an such.
    Thank you! I think languages are fascinating. It's nowhere near done, and will probably go through lots of changes. But I think I have found a general way I want to keep it.
     
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    Cami (But a cat) Wynn Vtuber CHAMPION

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    As long as you enjoy it, it's awesome!

    I look forward to seeing what you do with it in the future.
     
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    Shkol2 Erevan Galanodel, 320-ish, Sorcerer/Warlock

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    I too look forward to seeing what becomes of it.

    If you like, do feel free to go through the rules and try your hands on the challenge sentence.
     
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    StormKing3 Famous Adventurer

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    So are all the words just in English but with this new alphabet and different ways of saying it?
     
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    Shkol2 Erevan Galanodel, 320-ish, Sorcerer/Warlock

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    No, not really.
    The word order is different and so is how you put words together. You can look in the document to see details on word order and such.
    If you were wondering about the sentence, you need to read the information closely and take knowledge from the various examples I give throughout the document. There are no words that don’t appear anywhere else in the doc without a description.
     
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  8. Quint

    Quint least estrogenated scripter HERO

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    Damn, that's really cool. And really good, my first few constructed languages were (and still are) mostly garbage. I actually know of a way to "write" the symbols fairly quickly and very consistently, if you're interested, PM me!
     
  9. Shkol2

    Shkol2 Erevan Galanodel, 320-ish, Sorcerer/Warlock

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    Thanks!
    My first one was pretty bad as well.
     
  10. Stormarend

    Stormarend The classes DO NOT correspond with the elements.

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    Doesn't "art" practically mean visual arts on these forums? Music and writing are also arts, but they have their own categories. If you asked me I would say it fits best into the latter, but even that's somewhat of a stretch.
     
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    Shkol2 Erevan Galanodel, 320-ish, Sorcerer/Warlock

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    Nobody who thinks they've solved the sentence?
     
  12. Ghostie

    Ghostie Amateur corner-hugger VIP+

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    This is actually really cool! Languages are really hard, fictional or real, so kudos to you for making one from scratch o:

    I had a go at the sentence but it didn’t turn into anything comprehensible, sadly...
    Zi: Cat Za: Child Ojoi: Speak(plural with the ’i’ on the verb?) Varo: Person K’i: And Wo: (couldn’t find anything about it in the document) Œ|de|he: from the lake
    In the end, it turned into ”Cat child speak person and (X) in the lake.” and with some guesswork ”Kitten, person says, is from the lake”. Probably pretty far from the correct sentence, but it was fun trying to solve it lol)
     
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    Shkol2 Erevan Galanodel, 320-ish, Sorcerer/Warlock

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    Thank you!

    Fun to see people attempting to solve the sentence.

    So, the sentence was: "Zi zaojoi vârok’ι wo œdehe".
    You are correct about "zi" being cat. Za is not child, since child is "Cza". The actual word is "Zao", meaning speech. "-jo" is the 3rd-person verb suffix. You are correct in assuming that the "-i" makes the verb plural. Person is correct, as well as and.
    As I said earlier, you need to look through the document very carefully to understand the sentence. There is a small star note saying that any instance of a Y-sound preceded of followed by another Y-sound, or a palatalized consonant (ex. "k'ι"), becomes a W-sound. As "Wo" is preceded by "ι", one can deduce that it was originally a Y-sound, "Yo", which means dog.
    A guide of the sentence would be: |Zi| |zao|-jo|-i |vâro|-k’ι| |w(y)o| |œ|de|he|
    Literally: "Cat speech-3rd_person_verb-plural person-and dog the-lake-from"
    The sentence means: "A person and a dog from the lake speaks to a cat."
     
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    Shkol2 Erevan Galanodel, 320-ish, Sorcerer/Warlock

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    I now have a name in Cohedic.
    I’m Xîrik’ι Reo Dovâro.
    Try to understand what my name means.
     
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    Shkol2 Erevan Galanodel, 320-ish, Sorcerer/Warlock

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    How would you guys like it if I made a classroom for this? xd
     
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    H0Y H0Y HERO

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    yep cus i cant really understand this like i do with one other singular language
     
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    Shkol2 Erevan Galanodel, 320-ish, Sorcerer/Warlock

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    Working on it! =D
    It'll take some time though. I need to make words and try to get some order in what I put up.
     
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    Shkol2 Erevan Galanodel, 320-ish, Sorcerer/Warlock

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    Update:
    Classroom is coming along bit by bit. Is being hemmed by tests from school and other stuff in my life.
    Currently working on a summarising grammar presentation, which is taking time because I need to list lots of things.
     
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    Shkol2 Erevan Galanodel, 320-ish, Sorcerer/Warlock

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    Some good and bad news:

    Good news are I now have three different writing systems of varying complexity for those of you who want to check that out.

    Bad news are the document linked here is now outdated for the most part.
     
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    Shkol2 Erevan Galanodel, 320-ish, Sorcerer/Warlock

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    Haha, have some more bad news:
    Due to the sheer ficklety of the human mind, significant changes have been made to the language and I can gladly confirm that pretty much everything in the document is outdated.

    On the better side, I have expanded and reworked the orthography inventory so we now have more and better characters for those interested. I will resume work on the Classroom shortly, aiming to make it up to date and finish up the basics so I can finally share it with you. I will most likely share the classroom in a new thread.
     
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