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Who Here Is The Most Hardcore Gamer?

Discussion in 'Wynncraft' started by Salted, Jun 5, 2019.

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  1. Spinel

    Spinel Pronounced Spin-nell, not Spine-el VIP+

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    This might actually make me interested in the server again, but the only one that really appeals to me is hardcore mode. Craftsman mode sounds like the equivalent of putting a band-aid on a bullet hole (meaning that it’s a lazy way to fix the main problem of crafting, too much effort for so little of reward). Ironman mode sounds just plain unfair. You can’t stash materials and potions away, which take up a lot of space, and what about quest items? Do you have to skip out on the quests that give quest items until you’re ready to do the quest that needs said item(s)? Imo, handicapping the player by taking away basic amenities like the bank is not the way to go for making “hard” modes.
     
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  2. ocu

    ocu penguin gang CHAMPION

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    where's the "find salted's basement and kidnap him just to put him in your basement" mode

    i would complete it in record time

    and be the first one to do it
     
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  3. _Kaasblokje_

    _Kaasblokje_ Master of the void biome HERO

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  4. Aucorg

    Aucorg useless meat bag VIP

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    When you die in Wynncraft Hardcore you die in real life
     
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  5. ocu

    ocu penguin gang CHAMPION

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    shut up

    this is my meme

    you dont get to piggy back
     
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  6. Robbee

    Robbee Well-Known Adventurer

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    I like the idea of new modes to make the game more difficult, but to be honest, I these three don't sound very appealing to me.
    "Craftsman" sounds quite tedious because of all the grinding required (and just buying/transfering items isn't very interesting either).
    In "Ironman" I would be too afraid of getting good items or even a mythic without being able to transfer it, in addition to only having your inventory as storage is more annoying than difficult (and if I don't want to push a class through the bank or trade, I just don't do it).
    And about "Hardcore", dying because of a small lag (which doesn't happen very often, but often enough to be very likely over a full playthrough, at least with my connection) would be very frustrating. Besides that, the ability to /kill without consequences will probably be abused a lot, but if /kill would count as a normal death, it would be even worse with things like 1x1-holes etc.

    But thats just my personal opinion, many other players will probably like them. What I would really hope to see are more modes, especially things like "take more/deal less damage" to make the game more difficult without gameplay-restrictions; or something like a "no spell"-mode or other things that alter actual combat, so you have to rethink the way you fight.
     
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  7. _Kaasblokje_

    _Kaasblokje_ Master of the void biome HERO

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  8. ocu

    ocu penguin gang CHAMPION

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    Continue on like this

    And you're gonna find yourself just like the orange people.
     
  9. Salted

    Salted Game Design & Wynncraft Founder Staff Member Admin GM CHAMPION

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    Those won't be for everyone for sure, but Craftsman will be a lot more of a game of trading than grinding. Ironman + craftsman however....
     
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    Glenncrafter A Collector & Proud Veteran CHAMPION

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    Don't think many will do ironman if we will never be able to access bank or trade with ppl
    It makes making builds almost impossible unless we grind for so long!
    (would be nice if we could access it at lvl 103/104)

    And craftsman+ironman just won't work with storing materials&ingredients at higher lvls especially!

    Just in general i'd be nice of getting a 'safe point' at lvl 103/104 where you basically 'completed' the challenge and are able again to: die in hardcore mode, access bank in ironman mode, use normal kind of gear (cause the amount of scrap you'd need would be ridiculous) in craftsman mode
     
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  11. Quint

    Quint least estrogenated scripter HERO

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    Allow Mix 'n Match or else.
    Ironman - Craftsman
    Ironman - Hardcore
    Craftsman - Hardcore
    Ironman - Craftsman - Hardcore

    Also maybe something like no spells, GlitchedSlayer's Ironman challenge, no fast travel, no help, etc.
     
  12. WithTheFish

    WithTheFish Internet Macrocelebrity CHAMPION

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    Mix 'n match already exists:
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    Quint least estrogenated scripter HERO

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    Bart (MC) Ex-Item Maker & Day Counter (MC) CHAMPION

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    In all honesty, I don't expect to ever play Hardcore mode myself. If I get VIP I'll probably try Ironman and Craftsman (maybe both if I feel like torturing myself), but the fact that you lose almost all your items when you die in Hardcore mode seems like too big of a risk, especially since bosses like Cybel exist, and a bit of a lag spike at many other bosses is also enough.
    You could probably cheese most quest bosses with getting tokens or whatever on other classes, but that wouldn't work with Ironman enabled of course.

    Talking strategies, which class do y'all think would be the best for each challenge mode? I'm thinking Mage and Warrior for Hardcore (heal and best defense respectively), any class for Craftsman, and probably Mage for Ironman since, once again, you can heal yourself. So for Hardcore Craftsman also Mage and Warrior, and just Mage for the other combination. Unless some Archer is mad enough to think their agility will save them.
     
  15. Mettymagic

    Mettymagic she/her HERO

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    I think having a separate bank would be a fair compromise, limited to 1 page. That's just enough to store your emeralds, quest items, and to shelf your useless quest helmets.
     
  16. Aya

    Aya Very Serious Gensokyo Journalist HERO

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    Oh frick
    Now the easy modo meme will make sense
    Lunatic Mode when
     
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  17. JaydonTheWarrior

    JaydonTheWarrior Nerf tanks, buff warrior. HERO

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    Wait a minute, if you guys ran out of things to do in the spare time, what happened to the guild update?
     
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  18. StormKing3

    StormKing3 Famous Adventurer

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    Hardcore mode literally no one needs or wants > The marketplace, which was one of my favourite features


    The DEV team have been working "very hard"
     
  19. JaydonTheWarrior

    JaydonTheWarrior Nerf tanks, buff warrior. HERO

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    Read what salted said a few messages ago.
    In fact here, let me qoute it for you.

    Salted: The market is a tricky beast. Having 2-3 peeps testing it is nothing compared to hundreds of people, it's the type of system that absolutely requires that kind of testing. We can't simply throw a dev 24/7 at the problem until it's fixed, the market works differently when stress tested. So while waiting on bug reports and feedback, we worked on this feature which only took a few hours.
     
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    StormKing3 Famous Adventurer

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    I was just joking anyway, I know they have to get it into tip top condition before re-releasing it. I just think they should do it quicker.

    Thank you for the "quote" btw :P
     
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