Possible Solutions To Wars Being Down ?

The guild communities and long time players are leaving or near that point, even though I'm banned and not able to play the game anymore myself, I still care for the people that are in these communities. I'm seeing the same message from the staff, every update they give or comment they make. Perhaps someone in the staff team or salted himself should touch base with jpresent, and inquire from him as to how they are able to re-enable features that had no issue to begin with, such as wars. Is there absolutely no way that the staff team can either get some sort of instructions or guide in some way from jp in solving this issue themselves without jp having to be there? I'm not sure why this would be such a big issue to do, jpresent from the time I met him has always been very transparent and caring towards the communities in wynn, unlike most of the others that say absolutely nothing to the communities. Its hard to believe that he would just completely ignore or not be able to inform someone on how to solve this issue themselves, jp couldnt of been the only person that had access to things that is needed to re-enable these features. If you're saying that jp wont even respond to say Salted or anybody at all, that would be quite upsetting, considering how much he is truly respected.

 

They're gonna bring wars as a new feature in the guild update, they just have to make all the older players leave so no one remembers wars to begin with.
(jk)
I refuse to believe Jpresent is the only one on the ct who can enable wars. As badly coordinated as the ct could be, they still wouldn't have the on-off switch for over half the endgame content only usable by one person. I don't see any good reasons as to why wars (and nether, too) are still down, as the only reason they were taken down to begin with was the massively increased playercount for 1-2 weeks. It's gone down by a lot now, and is almost back to before.

Either they're really focusing on getting the trade market back up and are neglecting everything else (not likely, but the community has been mostly focused on it and it has been stated to be top priority), or we're gonna get one update fixing wars, nether and trade market all at the same time and the trade market is holding everything up (not likely either, since the API got independently fixed already).

Jpresent certainly deserved a break from, iirc, coding huge parts of 1.18, and I'm not blaming him for taking one. However, I do blame a part of the ct for the lack of transparency. If we knew wars are gonna take at least this long to return because of so-and-so, it wouldn't create nearly as much frustration as current information does. I know we got a post from Salted, but it was an apology for the radio silence (good, good, appreciated) followed by a strange 'top priority once we're able to do it' and the ominous 'we do not plan to just remove that feature forever', basically saying they haven't even been able to start on getting the trade market back (probably because Jp is gone, but goddamn, they can just say that and remind people to not bother him because he's on a break. Would certainly help clear things up) and we might be waiting a lot longer for wars and market to be up than we initially (& even after that) expected.

Let's hope that's not the case, and we at least get more info as time goes on.

tl;dr let jp take a break, surely there are other people who can enable wars, but if there aren't, jp could at least come back for a bit and re-enable wars. trade market will require more time though, so that's understandable. unless they accidentally deleted all the coding behind wars to disable them but ehhhhh i'm taking my chances

 

If they can re-enable wars they would already done that. It's their top priority to fix the issue with MarketPlace and Wars.

 

Can we stop making these threads now?

 

Also please don't begin the "They aren't telling us

gg, our next Wynncraft moderator ^^^, it would appear you have mastered the statement they have been preaching to everyone, this btw is not a thread to complain about them being gone, more so a plead to tell us what we could do to help perhaps? Why aren't simple solutions not able to be taken to secure a huge portion of the player basis that is on the verge of giving up and forgetting about the game entirely, I hope the staff aren't thinking "They will just return when we bring them back, its ok". The long time playing members I've spoken to have said otherwise, me supporting the communities, being one of them. Time is running out, what can we do to fix this, however it may be we can. It needs to happen soon or this will impact the server for the worse. This place being a business and we the customers, this has been handled in a very unprofessional manner, all the people being effected by this, have paid good money or supported this server for a very long time, this issue has gone on long enough, lets talk about how we can fix this together, rather than our famous "our top priority spiel".

 

being banned is only a suggestion for out true lord and savoir, tnt

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also paraphrasing something a good friend said, if you let your personal life and personal issues effect your work ethic, you shouldn't have been hired in the first place. i firmly believe they should hire new admins and coders to fix the issues at hand

 

Only when the admins stop locking any thread that dares criticize how terribly they’re handling this situation.

 

no

 

Sorry, but i only wanted to help on spreading the information.
I agree that a lot of things are messed up, and they indeed handle a lot of things unprofessional. What i wanted to say is "They are working on it, and will release any possible information as soon as possible". I also believe if the issue was that simple then they would already have fixed it, but it seems it isn't that simple.
If you want to help them you can donate money to them by buying from their https://store.wynncraft.com/.

Side note: I don't know, but i feel humiliated when you called me by "our next Wynncraft moderator". So, don't call me that... please!

Edit: Also, i can say that they are 100% aware of how huge the problem are. Since they at least put effort into talking with us.

Here are all the replies about the MarketPlace and Wars (i think):
Salted: "Hey y'all!

Sorry for the recent radio silence, due to unforseen circumstances we've had issues getting the marketplace and wars back up. Rest assured it is our top priority the second we're able to do it. Sorry I can't say more than this at this point, but we'll definitely let you know once things are back.

We know some of you only live for wars/guilds and we do not plan to just remove that feature forever. It's as frustrating for us than it is for you all, and it will be the very first thing we fix once we can. Thank you for your understanding."
Salted: "I don't want to say more because it might put the blame on specific people. I don't want to direct the community anger at anyone, that'd be an incredibly shitty thing to do.

EDIT: Items in market aren't lost or anything dramatic like that"

 

They aren't locking every thread that "dares criticise" them, Salted locked the previous thread because everyone was complaining about the same thing without adding anything to the conversation. So he locked it and replied saying he didn't want to say anything about it because it would be throwing people under the bus.

Salted doesn't need to tell you everything about what theyre working on, hell he doesn't need to tell you anything about what theyre working on. And if they think it's best they dont say anything about the subject other than progress reports then they wont. It's not like he wants radio silence, but if it's a better option than making the community aware of everything then radio silence it is.

 

People should be thrown under the bus. People SHOULD be held accountable.

And no, he doesn’t need to, but if he wants to keep his damn players then he needs to understand you can’t just shut down large features for over a month with NO explanation.

I’m sorry but there is ZERO excuse for any of this, it is entirely unacceptable. I don’t care if the admins think radio silence is best, the community keeps this game alive and therefore deserves to know why the hell its still broken.

 

I agree it's not an excuse.
However, it seems Salted won't tell us any further information because it will put the blame on someone.
I'm not defending Salted, yes it's the fault of the Admins who are managing the game.

But, this thread is to find a solution to the problem. I really don't want a thread with a lot of hate in general, it's a little bit annoying.

 

Throwing under the bus =/= Holding accountable.

There is an explanation for the market being down, its that some1 duped a shitload of Heros and theyre trying to fix it, as for the wars idk, havent payed much attention to them since i dont use the feature. And people complaining that these feature have been down for a couple months for fixes are ridiculous anyway. I understand wanting them back and getting upset that theyve been gone for a month+ and theres little communication, but we dont have control over how fast things get fixed. Afterall, we survived years without both. And no, just because we keep the game alive doesnt make us "deserve" anything, this has gone from criticism to entitlement.

 

the ct isn’t the problem at all. They just generally do what they’re told. The administration is the problem.

Wynn would be far better off currently if the administration was better coordinated and was better staffed

 

Throwing someone under the bus is just the more negative connotation of holding someone accountable. They're the same thing. And just because what's left of the community had the patience to survive years of updates that took 8+ months and bugs that took years to fix doesn't mean it can sustain itself on content like that forever. Eventually even the people who are still licking whatever they're pulling out of their asses are gonna leave too.

"And people complaining that these feature have been down for a couple months for fixes are ridiculous anyway." Also you're saying that it's ridiculous for people to be upset about a feature that's suppose to work is broken. Do you hear yourself? If people are upset with something, of fucking course they're going to complain.

"And no, just because we keep the game alive doesnt make us "deserve" anything, this has gone from criticism to entitlement." No, Developers put out a game. Customers pay money for that game, which give the Developers some income. If they want to keep those customers and income, of course they're going to have to keep those customers happy by running on whatever business model they can with that game. Same rules apply here on Wynncraft.

 

I was actually even permanently muted in the discord for wynncraft after asking a simple question to Salted, do you still care about us? (the guild communities) I never received a reply from him though which was upsetting for it truly was a simple question. Salted, what can we do to help fix this issue with wars being disabled, do you need people that can code or understand it to enable it, do you need more hosting or money for it, what do you need, we are here to help you fix this issue. We have always been there to help, along with having paid good money to the server for things we are no longer provided, but instead, you feeling your business would be hurt by revealing the truth to the situation, has jeopardized a huge section of your supporting player base with your idea that not being transparent, is the best option for you to take. You would be naive to think otherwise, unlike yourself, I talk to everyone in the community, listen to what there saying, and actually care about these people that are my friends, please before we leave, which like i said, you would be naive to think we weren't going to leave, please let us help you. Just tell us what you need. How is that so hard to do, along with all the other routes you could possibly take to quickly resolve this, its up to you, but if you choose not to reply or still choose to update us again with "It is our top priority, we will inform you of any updates to the situation" I would have to believe that isn't the case, because if it were to be true, I feel that you would of had this situation resolved weeks ago. If you truly were actually trying to fix this, wars had no problem other than being resource hogs, why dont you talk to us?

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Also please dont start guys with the pointing fingers remarks, that is obviously not getting us anywhere, which is another reason why so many have already left and are about to leave completely, we need to talk more about how can we fix this issue, its looking like most of the long time players that were every day regulars are little to none now, if they cant open up to let us in on whats going on, and we not help or find a way to fix this issue faster, then this server is pretty dead to not already so many that have already left entirely, but the remaining ones that are still hoping they finally open up or act on this, for the servers sake if they choose to continue handling this situation like they have been, better hope those trailers keep them new players flowing in because once they also realize that theres really nothing at the end game for them to continue half way through the game, those regulars will have been long gone, who were the ones that kept this place alive to begin with. So what can we do now, to resolve this today, tomorrow, within the week, but this cant go on like this any longer, I dont think the staff realize how far its impacted us all.

 

Tbh, i don't really like what are you saying. It seems like your saying that Salted is a villain even though you don't mean that.

Anyway, i don't know about Salted real feeling or anything. But, from what he said on some of his replies is that he does truly know that there are a lot of players that only live for wars/MarketPlace, and did say that they are themselves are frustrated as us or even more.
Salted: "We know some of you only live for wars/guilds and we do not plan to just remove that feature forever. It's as frustrating for us than it is for you all, and it will be the very first thing we fix once we can."
I believe the only way to help them is to wait. Yes, it's time. Tbh, i think i seemed stupid when i just wrote this.

Edit: It's kinda expected to not get a reply from an Admin... but, i believe the answer to your question is yes.

 

Ultimately it comes down to Salted, the moderators apparently dont have anything to say or know whats for sure going on, theres no telling, they tell us absolutely nothing. Being a business, this is a horrible way to keep customers coming back, who would want to spend money on a place that provides them with nothing in return. Communication yes, is one of those returns one would expect. You have to understand that there is several communities within the game based off of different aspects of the game, just because you arent as involved as much as others in the communities that are being impacted hard by all of this, doesn't make all of the people you see worried and pleading to everyone in staff, to be wrong for having being upset for receiving now nothing for all the time, money and effort all these ppl have given and put into this place. LOCKING these threads to shut people up is a piss poor way of showing someone cares. I mean it was one thing how horrible staff treats players that have been banned from the server like they are absolute garbage at that point and dont have a voice, but its another thing to treat the people that have loved this server and supported it through thick and thin, the way they currently are now, with this not wanting to communicate with anyone, as if thats truly their best option. Salted told me 4 days into this "its only been 4 days they have been down, stop worrying so much", well Salted, its now been over a month +, i think its time we fix this together, now, or watch your long time players disappear, dont believe me, then keep hoping we will stick around forever and you will see how sadly you were mistaken. Lets fix this.

 

Really?
I feel like i'm being labeled as an evil person now... it's really humiliating.
Give me some time to reply.
Here it is:

Yes, it comes down to Salted the Admins. Moderators have nothing to do with it, yes. Salted said that he cares about us the players that only do wars/marketplace, and they will fix it as soon as possible. It's sad that Salted won't tell us more for now, but it's probably for the best. You might disagree, and it's completely fine.

There is a lot you can gain from donating to them, most of them are for cosmetic stuff. Some players like to support their favorite servers.

Yes, i understand that there are "several communities within the game based off of different aspects of the game". I'm one of the players that don't have anything else to do other than use the marketplace, so i'm one of those. It's completely fine to be upset, however, don't make other people look evil just because you're upset on them. Also, their effort hasn't disappeared since Salted stated that the issue isn't something so dramatic like losing your progress.
Your making it more of: Salted is a villain who appears to destroy half of humanity because he doesn't care about them anymore.
But it's more of: Salted is a hero who wants to save half of humanity but he can't, and why? no one knows except him and a few other people.
Yes, i love iskeai anime (well, not everything).

I do think that you misunderstood something. He didn't just lock the thread. He did say his reasons on why he won't tell us the issue, that was the answer to the thread. So, there was no need to continue since the thread was answered.

I'm upset with the low communications we get a lot of times, but i think you're overdoing it with what you're saying here.

I don't really know what to say, but can you provide evidence?

There isn't a way to fix the issue other than waiting for it to be fixed by the team. Saying let's fix this isn't realistic, we are players we aren't developers.

Well, i hope these answers will help you.

 

Don't let this turn into a flame war or an angry attack on anyone, that breaks the rule against harassment. If this thread "goes off of the rails", those responsible will be dealt with.
I'll say this again: Neither Moderators nor CT have any control over this situation, and the admins are fully aware of the situation. It is painful for all of us, and it will be fixed as soon as it is possible to fix it.