Media Vote To Get More Information On The Trade Market's Closing

The in-game market has been down now for nearly 2 months and we literally have no idea why.

Wynncraft has a history of closing broken gamemodes and not updating them for multiple years (wizard fortress and the nether), and while there is faith that the market will be fixed and the team has said its their top priority, it's already taken doubly too long and we need to know why. The in-game market has already become an integral part of the game and the fact that it is shut down puts an immediate stop to the best part of Wynn, the in-game trading and economy.

The Wynncraft team is small, and we understand that there aren't many people who are able to work to fix the system but we are the players and we deserve to know what's going wrong and why its taken so long to address its problems.

If you feel that we as the player base deserve more information, or if you feel that we should remain ignorant and in the dark, then please vote on the poll above.​

 

please stop, they just made another thread

 

yeah and it was about as useful as an appendix is to the human body. we need to know WHY

 

well, as much as i love to be negative against the wynn team, and point out every flaw. i do gotta give it to them and say this thread is basically pointless

we know why the market is down, because a glitch was found and they needed to close it to fix it. HOWEVER, whether or not it is still down because a fix hasnt been found yet, or if its still down because the main developer ran away is a mystery that boggles my mind

 

the new thread provides absolutely no information at all, if you actually took the time to read it, it states that they actually never got to fixing it after nearly 2 months. its just another extremely quickly put out,
low effort message to keep the people at bay
i dont know if it was bad wording, but this needs to stop, they shouldve been aware of this a while ago.
the fact that they didnt get to fixing just confuses me. they cant keep putting out server trailers every few months to keep the playercount high
also the “they’re trying their best to fix it” argument is absolutely fucking awful, no they’re not, player counts from the trailer have dropped, warring should be back already.
for the marketplace issue, if its taking you 2ish months to patch up a simple dupe glitch maybe you should start accepting more devs?
but i have something besides the point
back when i wasnt banned from the wynn discord every single time i tried to criticize anything about the game, a flock of people would instanly tell me that
1. CT did not get paid
2. CT are volunteers
3. Criticizing people on something they worked to put out is bad
the amount of people that go and suck up to the staff team is just plain sad, they can do much better.
the lack of communication between staff and players is a part of the reason why many of the servers decent aspects are gone (who thought it was a good idea to remove the shoutbox?)
speaking of the shoutbox, they had a few months to bring it back, its gone for good.
ive been trying to appeal my discord ban for a month now, but after contacting numerous staff members, none responded to me. either they are inactive on discord, or just being plain assholes, if i had to pick, i would go with the second option.
for gods sake, please fix this goddamn game, why do i even play here. every single post about the trade market or warring instantly gets barraged by people who have nothing useful to say at all.

 

old meme aside, I agree with what y'all have said so far on this thread

 

If they're unable to tell us the reasoning due to it being private or something like that, I'd be satisfied with them saying that they can't make their reasons public.

Quite the tough cookie this situation is, we're all curious (some are desperate to know) but the admins have their own lives, other responsibilities and stuff outside Wynncraft.

In the meantime, we can make some more cults or eat some sandwiches whilst we wait :D

 

I agree, and I also think that if the team wants to keep this game alive, they have to start maintaining it much better.

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I would not be satisfied. Especially since wars and economy make up 90% of the player base for endgame players. it was sad when nether and wizard fortress died, but wars and trade market are quickly becoming the only part of wynncraft that is keeping veterans in one place. Half of my old guild already quit wynn just because wars have been down for so long, and the LEAST the wynn team could do is tell us WHY we cant play the favorite parts of our game.

 

someone dupe glitched 1600 heroes on accident thats why!

its kinda disrespectful to Salted and the others because he cant say more than he did and if he can release more infos he WILL release more infos

i recommend leaving them alone or else it will end like pandemonium (ppl ask for a buff all the time and they ignore them.)

 

No, its disrespectful to the PLAYERS. Salted is a game director/owner and part of his job is taking criticism, so saying that "its kinda disrespectful to Salted" really means nothing. I have an opinion on this subject and I want it to be heard. Can the ceo of a company be criticized? yeah ofc he can, hes the ceo. Same with salted.

And can you say with legitimate 100% certainty that that's why the market is closed? If so then why tf hasn't salted told us this? if so then why has the market been down for nearly 2 months? if so then why have we heard nothing that validates that? normal dupe glitches are fixed within a matter of hours so what's taking this one so long? why can't we get our legends and mythics back?
All i'm asking is information regarding why i can't trade in game. were not asking them to speed up, we just wanna know whats going on, and we as the players have rights to know whats happening.

Examples of this can be seen all over. Warframe in particular is a perfect example. They have biweekly dev streams that show the players every single aspect of an update months before it goes into affect, and they always have commenting turned on so they can hear feedback. They were going to nerf a really good item recently and the players said NO because it wasnt a problem with the item, but rather the gamemode itself. The Warframe devs listen and consider every bit of feedback and they maintain their game really well to a reasonable extent. They are always up front with every problem the game has. Why couldnt ps4 users get the new round of tennogen items? because there were problems translating it from pc to console. Why were fortuna fractures being buffed in diffucilty? because they were meant to satisfy the endgame players who wanted more challenging content. Why was itzal's blink being nerfed? because it was making the other archwings look like toys in comparison.

Wynncraft is the opposite, and its been this way for a really long ass time. Gavel was pushed back by half a year and we still don't know why. Wizard Fortress was removed and we dont know why (you can guess as to why, but the team never said anything about it, they just closed it). Nether hasn't seen an update or change in the last 2 1/2 years and we dont really know why. Now wars and the in game market are close and its going on 2 months that they've been that way, which is not exactly desirable. However I think that it should be down for as long as it takes, assuming that we know WHY its down, which we don't.

tldr: Wynncraft shut down other gamemodes that were out of date in the past, and that makes me worry for wars and the market, BUT im willing to be ok with it being down for this long, IF ONLY THEY WOULD TELL US WHY.
( also pandemonium is a single item and the market encompasses probably 2,500+ items which definitely more important imo)

 

Salted: Sorry for the recent radio silence, due to unforseen circumstances we've had issues getting the marketplace and wars back up. Rest assured it is our top priority the second we're able to do it. Sorry I can't say more than this at this point, but we'll definitely let you know once things are back.

 

i get why you want communication and i think most ppl know wynncraft has a lack of communication (they also removed shoutbox) and you made a very well explained thread. But a i wanted also quote what salted said this week:

Wynncraft is not like Warframe in terms of Staff/Money/Experience
Youre right they could open more up but they cant tell us

 

yeah, why can't they tell us? why? do you know? is there something that i'm missing? And yes wynncraft is much smaller than wynn, but it DOESNT TAKE A TEAM OF PEOPLE to make a thread saying why something is not working. It only takes a single person to type: ____ is going wrong. and the thing that makes Warframe so great isn't their money, its their interactions between the players and staff. They have programs that make it so that regular players can help contribute to the game (eg. Tennogen, Guides of the Lotus, Warframe Partners, and Moderation positions). You don't need lots of money to be able to have a direct line of communication between players and staff.

WHY? why can't he say more? Have you been paying attention? This all falls into the pattern that the staff have of keeping the players almost completely in the dark. Yes salted is trying to fix it and hes letting us know that hes trying to fix it, but that simply isnt enough. Its not enough to just say "We know that we haven't been talking about this very much, but we're still going to tell you absolutely nothing about whats happening" because thats essentially what he is saying.

It isn't enough to simply acknowledge that there hasnt been communication, because that does literally nothing besides acknowledge that something bad is happening. The wynn team should be putting effort to STOP this and to have more communication between players and staff.

 

saying the wynn team isnt like [insert random larger company with more money here] because the wynn team is a bunch of contributers and not paid staff is a completely terrible arguement and everyone knows it. just because they dont have a paid team doesnt mean that excuses them from not having communication, and not being able to follow up on promises

 

It’s absolutely ridiculous that the staff closes large parts of the game for over a month with NO communication as to why.
It’s nothing but disrespectful to the players and absolutely terrible game management, no matter how you look at it. It’s inexcusable.

 

Absolutely true, especially since doing those things costs 0 dollars.

 

Thanks ^

 

Here is the reason:
Salted: "Sorry for the recent radio silence, due to unforseen circumstances we've had issues getting the marketplace and wars back up. Rest assured it is our top priority the second we're able to do it. Sorry I can't say more than this at this point, but we'll definitely let you know once things are back."
Well, it seems an issue has appeared, and its their top priority to fix the issue.
It seems Salted can't say more than that an issue has appeared, probably because if he said what is the issue is, it might cause more trouble, Ex: "The issue is that all your progress/items has been deleted accidently." And he said that he will give us information as soon as possible. So yeah, saying "TELL US WHAT IS THE ISSUE IS!!" is kinda useless.
Don't get me wrong, I agree that they need to tell us more informations. But, they already told us what they can.
And tbh, they never told us anything if we where silent. Most of the time they speak when a big thread appears on cirtcizing Wynncraft. I remember a thread that circtize Wynncrft a lot, and finally salted commented why Gavel was a mess and a lot of other things.

My point here is: Be peacful, don't be an agree man/girl. Tell them that they are wrong on keeping the issue a secret.

By the way, here is the thread.

 

1) Saying that you can't tell us the reason is not the same thing as giving us a reason. 2) saying "TELL US WHAT THE ISSUE IS" is exactly what we should be doing (maybe not in caps but you know what i mean) because the more this issue is not talked about the less reason salted and the team have to bring it back fast. Not saying that this thread is gonna be the one factor that brings it back, but the general conversation surrounding the issue needs to shift away from "salted is working to fix it and its taking awhile" and more towards "salted has taken too long to fix this issue which would be alright, but its not since we have no idea why." 3) If the issue is that all the items are lost (which he said thats not the case, but lets just quickly entertain the thought) then we as the players have a right to know this. If billions of emeralds of wealth is now lost then we have a right to know. If you had 3 stacks worth of items in the market one day, and the next day you woke up and suddenly it was completely gone, would you want to know? I would, and I think we have a right to know so.

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also, sidenote, i think that anyone has the right to be angry at the staff, given that they sometimes do things that are unfair (as long as they aint tryin to start a flamewar)

 

I don't really understand what you mean by this. But I agree on everything else, I would like to know what is the issue is, but I really don't want to wait for three years like Gavel. I would say when the issue fixed, they will probably tell us the reason by then, or if this thread become very famous then we might know what is the issue is.