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Assassin/Ninja Help Endgame Build?

Discussion in 'Class Builds' started by TheSaltyArrow, Apr 8, 2019.

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  1. TheSaltyArrow

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    i am a lvl 97 assassin and I’m looking for a good endgame build
    Any build is fine, but I like spell spam with thunder element
    I don’t have hive or legendary island, but I might be able to do some of them or call some friends in to help me
    Thanks in advance!
     
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    Requires Cinderchain, although if you really need to you can use Steel Wool until you get that. When you get a Master Voucher, swap Fenmask for Anima-Infused Helmet and Gigabyte for Ominous Wind.
     
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    That air defense... is there a way to fix that?
     
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    Druser ele defs don't matter HERO Featured Wynncraftian

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    Armor powders. That's why I used double Clay instead of double Puff, so the powder downsides works for balance rather than against it.
     
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    How many powders are needed to fix up that air defense?
     
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    P.S. Black is really strong
     
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    fenmask, 2xclay, and medeis are weird choices. Also, cinderchain is one of the last hive items before master hive. Something else would probably be better here. suggestion: https://wynndata.tk/s/CeY0Af
     
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    Fenmask is pretty good as an alternate to Anima, since it patches defenses, offers mana regen, and does a bit to boost damage. Tbh I don't realize people have trouble with Hive elemental so I didn't really think about Cinderchain.
     
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    https://wynndata.tk/s/ezT1nL I don’t really recommend being glassy like this but, this looks fun
     
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    This is probably a unique "Spellz only build never do melee" for Black. It does have pretty poor earth and air defense but you can probably cover up with powders or just treat the build as being semi-glassy but in exchange your defenses for the other 3 are pretty good and you get 11k+ hp so i'd say that's a win in my book.

    This is definitely a spell spam build with 8/4s Mana Regen and with access to up to 15k spins with crits, very high intelligence, and you get 42 or so extra sp to waste so you dont need to farm for the best possible sp you can gain. However you def want to get everything to the max mana regen and the least amount of mana regen negatives possible on Black. Spending all of ur SP on dexterity will overall improve your damage output and crit rate so prolly go for that once you have extra sp left. Low intel + 8/4s Mana Regen should be enough to spam spin attacks, smoke bombs, or whatever you need (I get some may want 12/4s Mana regen or something like other spell spam builds for water weapons but honestly that'd be overkill imo especially with high intel).

    Anima gives you nice dmg output and some nice dmg and hp while the sp requirements are usually stuff you'd invest in anyways. Medeis helps make the build less sp heavy and less cost heavy whilst giving you nice spell dmg and thunder/fire dmg. Though the lack of earth and air dmg could hinder a little bit of the smoke bomb dmg but honestly you get nearly 30k bombs anyways so it doesn't matter. Cinderchain gives you some decent sp bonuses + lots of fire and thunder damage tacked onto it alongside nice spell dmg and it isn't too sp heavy either. Memento gives you nice spell dmg and really good mana regen and raw spell damage is always a plus. The Suppressions give you 3/4s mana regen a pop and the lack of mana steal and life steal on it doesn't matter as its not a melee build at all. Knucklebones helps improve all your elemental damage by 33% which gives you a nice difference but it def solidifies the fact that you can't use melee as if suppressions and cinderchain didn't tell you already. Gold Hydro Necklace helps give you the intelligence for you to invest less sp on intel for memento and the exra water defense and mana regen always helps. Use whatever for the necklace imo but mana regen is pretty important. And Black has really nice dmg output and really works well with the build as a whole and its high dmg output helps a ton. The negative mana regen (Assuming its only -3/4s mana regen) doesn't really matter too much with the others. Hive Dagger even with max T6 powders deals overall noticeably less dmg despite having up to 5/4s mana regen more because of the lack of penalty and you can't use more than 2 master hive items at once so unless you really need that mana regen and don't have anima, prolly don't use it.

    Also NEVER use the melee button. You will not only lose health by a noticeable margin but you will basically lose all of your mana for every hit so prolly avoid using the build for anything that isn't for spells. If you really want you can just replace Knucklebones with another bracelet thats either a typical thunder bracelet or another mana regen bracelet but that 33% bonus to thunder and fire is pretty spicy. Despite it being recommended to cover defenses with powders, i'd say to go all out on thunder powders on your armor if you plan on doing PvE or PvB with mobs surrounding them (Assuming they dont have thunder resistance like Qira for example but you can prolly solo that boss idk) as you gain more damage the more enemies you kill and that can make your dmg output go through the roof.

    This is def a bit of a niche build but i think it's a niche that works well for a spell spam assassin and i kinda like niche builds.
     
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    That's really neat... (but wtf Black OP)
     
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    Notice defenses?
     
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    It's a glassy niche build. It's mostly just a spell spam build. Also you get 11k+ HP so it prolly won't matter much if two of your elemental defenses are not that good. Btw its for PvE/PvB and not for PvP
     
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    It’ll probably do best in pvp, against a boss you can’t use your powder special, you can’t get hit by any earth or air (you die) And you can’t hit anything because then you take 800 damage and lose all your mana. I think black should be used a hybrid weapon like it was designed because then it is much more functional like this. https://wynndata.tk/s/vnJzQR
     
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    You can tell if you are fighting an air or earth boss. Imo I think that's why it shouldn't be a super good LI-soloable build but Black Builds were never really good for stuff like Qira and LI anyways. The thing that makes this build special is the high mana regen so you don't have to actually ever use melee for anything that isn't powder specials. Oddly enough if you don't equip knucklebones and replace it with a different bracelet then it's melee dps properties is actually a lot better than your build. Knucklebones just is mostly there to stack onto your otherwise pretty good dps. Your build has negative mana regen whilst making a very fast weapon turn quite slow which makes mana steal not nearly as particularly helpful as having more consistent mana regen and it also means that you can kind of play at a much further range with smokebombs and vanishes. Also the fact that you can potentially get more intel off of this build also means that you are more likely to spell spam. Technically the damage on your spells are slightly better but the ability to regenerate mana even from retreating instead of using a short ranged melee attack just allows you to play more hit and run which is sort of how assassin plays to an extent imo. Black can work as a dual attack weapon but I kind of specialized it to be spell spammeable. Also -88% Earth Defense and -54% Air Defense doesn't really make your build that much bulkier than mines. In fact I'd argue that my build is bulkier due to having 2k more hp with the elemental defense difference being not super big between our two builds, you can prolly cover the defenses with powders anyways and note that your defense % values for earth and air are worse than even mines so covering my build with armor powders would likely make a more defensive product outside of having negative life steal in which you'd prolly use pots for PvE/PvB in the first place.
     
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    Is there a replacement for anima-infused hell?
     
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    Not really. I've sometimes used Fenmask to cover elemental defenses and give some nice boosts, but Anima is pretty unique and quite important.
     
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    For my build you can probably use Third Eye or Fenmask as well for the build if you don't have Anima. Also for the golden hydro necklace you can replace it with whatever necklace tbh it doesn't make much of a difference.
     
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