The Corruption/decay Will Never Die, And Here's Why

(Warning: Long, very complex text ahead. Read at your own risk.)

For years we have been playing this game under the illusion that one day we will reach the core of the darkness causing the corruption and decay to grow, spread, and infect the very world we fight on. The truth is, the thing we are fighting is unstoppable because it's not something physical we can just kill. This thing that fuels the corrupt forces of darkness is none other than a simple sin: greed.

They don't say it straight off the bat, but these evil forces were created through greedy actions. For Wynn, the nether portal was opened when people were trying to mine emeralds to get rich. Their greedy intentions caused the province to be victim to a dark force known as the Corruption, and based on how the years have gone by it just continues to spread with no signs of slowing down. Gavel faces a similar scenario: Villagers get greedy, and through that a force known as the Decay is formed, plaguing the Realm of Light and then Gavel next. Everything dark in this world stems from this one thing: greed.

But wait! Our job as the player is to save the world from this epidemic that has cursed the land. When we start, our character has been wiped of all memories. In essence, our character is a clean slate, something essential to fight an uprising against the works of greed itself. At first, our character fights for good. Currency for the most part is obtained gradually, with most items being obtained through effort and progression. Over time, our actions begin to become questionable. Freeing people from prison, opening up a tomb that a group of bandits basically swore to protect for obvious reasons, and the list only grows from there.

By the end of the game, our character has transformed drastically. They have taken on every task given to them, good or bad. They go out and seek new things, but usually this all falls back to the one thing we were fighting to stop: the spread of greed. And you'll never guess the biggest, all-time worst offender of this epidemic to the players themselves.

The "Mythics".

Ironically their presence arose after the Gavel update, Gavel meaning "greed" within the game's lore. At first it was just a weird coincidence, but the unveiling of these weapons slowly made them more desirable. The players- the soldiers who were meant to fight against greed itself- had become obsessed with the presence of these "Mythics". They spent hours upon hours trying to find one. Little did they know that this would only lead them to the ultimate form of greed. People would find a "Mythic", sell it for stacks upon stacks of LE, buy more "Mythics", get more LE, over and over and over again...

This is why the corruption and decay grow stronger with every year that progresses with the Ragni soldiers, us, entering the war against greed. We start innocent, given a purpose of fighting darkness, only to fall into the trap placed before us. The "Mythics" are a curse. I remember being a very low level years ago, ignorant of what a "Mythic" was, asking mods simply because I wasn't aware of the insanity these weapons put upon these specific people. It is breaking the fourth wall of sorts: while the early bouts of humans and villagers caused the evil to appear in the world, we as players, as soldiers, only keep making the darkness grow through our greed. The obsession of "Mythics" drives us away from our purpose as a soldier. And I fear this will never end, not as long as these cursed weapons exist in this world.

As such, the darkness grows on...

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If you have any questions about this, feel free to elaborate. This is just my viewpoint on the story based on existing lore and player actions. It has nothing to do with any "hidden" lore.

 

just make builds using only uniques and rares, but who would be stupid enough to do that tbh

 

@YYGAYMER probs did LI with this

Corruption is actually darkness and light colliding but ok

Also, greed being the cause of all the problems in Gavel is fucking stupid as shit.

 

I understand that corruption does occur from the combination of dark and light, but recall that it was contained within the Nether until the miners unleashed the portal. At that point the corruption leeched into the world as it had a gateway to spread from. So yes, corruption is made through dark/light collisions but the humans' quest for greed allowed it to be set free and devastate the province for years after.

In an ideal world, this would be a way to reduce our greed output since the all powerful items worth a ton would be ignored and money would not be as big as an issue for the players. This was the state of our presence years ago, but as I stated, the demonic weapons have been unleashed and there is no turning back. In fact, their presence is so powerful that if a higher power does anything to them negatively people scream out in outrage and demand their sacred precious weapon be the way it was before...

 

Crafted items are meant to combat Mythics as substitutes that are made by the player itself. Moderators nerf crafted ingredients which in turn nerf crafted items. This means:

moderators = soldiers who support the greed of mythics

soldiers who support the greed of mythics = corruption

therefore

MODERATORS = CORRUPTION

 

i am noob so i dont have mythics but i will get corrupted so i am sad

 

Spoiler: off topic alert

Thought about doing this many times + made the build many times

https://wynndata.tk/s/a0VyNk
Belcon, Sans gaming, Snowdrift, Pencuri, Deserter as weapon

..but it looks better than normal weapons only challenge, since what people actually hate about unique weapon is low damage

btw then is legendary acceptable

 

Moderators aren't the ones balancing ingredients, it's the IMs. (We're still corrupt though)

 

As WithTheFish said, moderators have no role in modifying these demonic weapons. Most moderators don't even have access to the GitHub or development servers, as their role is to maintain peace in the world and bring justice to those who disobey the laws of the land. If anyone should be the ones to fuel the greed caused by the weapons, it would be those who either 1) modify the existing "Mythics" or 2) create new ones to increase the obsession even more.

As long as you stay away from "Mythics" you'll not be as corrupted by greed as others are. Though, there is the chance one will find you at random, essentially cursing you and wanting you to give into the temptation of ultimate riches or absolute power over nearly everything. If so, try to resist the temptations as much as you can, though that rarely works with others...

Legendaries are fine as they are common enough for everyone to obtain them and use them effectively. This also makes their "greed factor" far less than the "Mythics" since most don't exceed excessive amounts of LE unless it's an item with extremely good ids, which almost never happens.

They are also far less evil than "Mythics" are as well. Have you even read some of the lore for those evil weapons? It's...well, kind of disturbing at times.

The moderators here were never corrupt. Unless, of course, they find "Mythic" and then go insane trying to get as rich and powerful as possible. Otherwise, they do the job of bringing justice right.

 

One quick thing

we are Fruman
we are not from corrupted greed places
why can’t we be greedy

Also, this whole discussion has turned into mythics which has nothing to do with the corruption whatsoever

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I mythic trade and lootrun myself, and have made quite a lot of le off mythics... but I don’t consider myself greedy..

I don’t resell, that’s greedy tbh
I work for my weath, no matter how “luck” factors in I put time and effort into it
I consider it my “job” and I work with the economy

Again, having mythics don’t make you greedy

 

Another reason: defeating Corruption can't have any consequences to other players who haven't done that yet. Imagine being lvl 10, farming Weak Zombies near Ragni, then some lvl 100 guy closes the portal and every monster instantly dies and all corruption-related quests break. The game would suddenly be out of sync for everyone.

 

We are Fruman but have our memory completely wiped as if we are not Fruman. While our biological origin comes from a place we know nothing about, our memories and thoughts adapt to the land around us, which is not Fruma. Plus greed is an overlying thing and while we may not be necessarily causing the corruption/decay to spread faster our thoughts being clouded by greed later on deviates us from the task at hand.

I only bring up "Mythics" because most end game players seem to only focus on this, and when looking at it as soldiers that are supposed to be saving the world the weapons have led our minds somewhere completely away from this focus. Thus, the corruption/decay continues to exist, with no sign of ever being completely defeated.

And not everyone with "Mythics" succumb to greed. I will admit "mythics" have found me not once but twice yet I refuse to be the person to constantly resell them just to become a bull in the market. Some people resist that urge better than others, but looking at the bigger picture this greedy action takes place much more than it should. It corrupts people- not you, not me, but many others.

This thread can act as a reason why this phenomenon occurs. The problem with MMORPGs that have a continuous problem like this is that the overall darkness in it can never truly be defeated unless they find some way to change the experiences for end game players once they defeat it. Rather than have our character defeat the darkness, we instead make questionable choices that might be hindering the good we are doing in the world, and then we realize money is power in the meta game, leading our minds to make money any way possible, most notably with the "mythics". This causes the dark force to revive enough to keep this cycle going, thus making the corruption/decay immortal.
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Remember, this is just a theory I created combining both lore and player actions into a reason that keeps the darkness alive. Not everyone will be like how I'm describing, but based on player experience the things I say revolve around a lot of the community's actions in general.

 

Doesn’t matter, we’re still fruman
Have you read oedipus Rex?
If you have here’s a comparison, he thought for his whole life he was from one place. He got a curse and stayed as far away from it as possible. However, he only fufilled his curse cause he didn’t know where he was really from.
It doesn’t matter what you think are act is, we still have fruman blood and don’t interact with this greedy aura you put upon the corruption

Also, isn’t the point of mythics to kill stuff..
ngl mythics kill more bad stuff faster
Even though they just.. you know.. respawn
Of course people want them. In fact, after more thought, being greedy for them can only help! The more greedy people wanting mythics, the better people become, the more bad guys die! And, with my argument above, the greed doesn’t touch the corruption

I mean, of course like us it’s better I guess to not be greedy, it’s got a bad connotation
I’m just making a point

I have no basis in lore whatsoever, it’s not where I belong
But after reading this, I really don’t think it matters...

 

What about the Mythic weapon “Hero”?

 

- Trading isn't canon in game.

- All items the player has, armor, accessories, weapons, that aren't gained from quests he/she found on his/her own.

-Corruption is the forces of Light and Dark colliding at a violent and unstoppable pace. The violent energies from in between form Corruption. A natural, calm collision of light & dark births a sort of twilight. Like, a few seconds before a solar eclipse fully takes over, just that state of balance between day & night, that sort of thing.

I made a theory a long time back that Cataclysm was created by the Ancients of Wynn, and that they formed the Nether Portal through its realm slashing abilities. Corruption, in its original form, is literally unstoppable, and insurmountable. The Ancients drew a good portion of its power into the Crystals, and in my opinion, that's the only reason Wynn ever survived the Corruption Wars. The strongest thing the portal produced after this was the CoW, which was lvl 100. Amadel at full power could life-wipe the entire world, and was lvl 140. Let that sink in for a moment.
The Crystals being formed was the best thing that could've ever happened to Wynn. Ever.

-The Decay is caused by greed, yes. It has nothing to do with the Darkness. The Decay only allowed the forces of Darkness to invade the Light Realm.

-Another dude brought up another theory that Dern is literally Darkness itself, as is the Nether. It will always keep spreading. Even though the Eye, the "Beast" of Darkness, that is the physical manifestation of Darkness, is chained up by Bob's sheer life force, it continues to spread. The Abysso Galoshes & the Case Holder for it spread Darkness wherever they touched, slowly protruding and spreading outwards, even though they were far from home. Darkness is Dern. Dern is Darkness. The boundaries of Darkness are the boundaries of Dern.

Besides. We're never going to uproot Corruption/Darkness, etc. Decay, maybe. But not those two. Darkness is an eternal, absolutely essential force. The Corruption has spread to every spot in the province underground, and to render it as a force useless and destroyed, to also destroy another realm along with it. We don't know how many other realms besides the main one and the ROL have Corruption either so.

 

AND GMS!@nicktree soz

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I think you getting a bit too fussed about Mythics its for die hard fans...Like how in other games if you finish it or give a ton of time in the game it rewards you.

 

In the end it's all up to opinion. I think that the mythics are evil and corrupt others, while others may see more good in them than bad. To be honest I always thought of mythics having some underlying evil in them but that's just me. But if we can obtain such powerful weapons then why hasn't the darkness been defeated or at least stalled...? There may be more to the story than we know.

I would prefer if you did not bring up that on my thread, for...well, personal reasons that can hurt my feelings slightly.

I just don't like how they are used: rather than using them to fight they instead use them to obtain mass riches which they then use to buy more of them and repeat this process. It's a tasteless action to me and that's part of the reason why this theory got in my head.

Please don't bring up my curse. That thing is now bound to my shell of a soul for eternity...

You bring up good points. Darkness is something that exists in every realm, and in this one it's embodied in provinces and other subrealms that would have to be somewhat destroyed in order to purify the world. And power can be good if those who wield it protect it from evil. What you say regarding darkness and the crystals makes sense in terms of the origin of the evil in the world.

However I don't know if I agree with the whole "armor/weapons are not canon" thing. If they aren't, why do almost all legendary/mythic weapons and armor have lore that relate to their origin in game? If we are not a part of the lore, why are we acting as a soldier tasked with saving the world from these dark forces? Who's to say the items that the soldier found weren't looted or being worn by the mob they killed? Sure, to some extent the trading system/marketplace is a bit too complex to tie to lore, but I don't think all elements of it rule out items/wealth being unrelated to a hypothetical state of the world. That's just my opinion.

 

Don't forget about the bank system :D, also it has a little bit of dialogue from The Banker

Spoiler: The Banker

They need to add something for the trade market too

 

So uhh
”Mayble the real evil was the friends money we made along the way?”
Thats what I’m getting from this

 

No, they are canon (armor and weapons) I'm just saying, the player naturally doesn't trade for them, he finds them on his own. Trading mechanics aren't canon ingame