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Mage/Dark Wizard Lunar Build?

Discussion in 'Class Builds' started by Tyler4011, Feb 10, 2019.

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  1. Tyler4011

    Tyler4011 wicked wowza HERO

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    Druser ele defs don't matter HERO Featured Wynncraftian

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    @Madkurre preach

    (also 7.5k health yikes)
     
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    starx280 The boy who cried lunar VIP

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    Dmg a lil low and lunar eats health so...
     
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    cumu + steamjet + facile = bad

    a. cumu + steamjet doesn't actually boost your damage that much. changing it to quartzite helm and undefined (neither of which are optimal) makes you lose only 300 meteor damage for 3k hp and some hpr

    b. cumu + facile = bad, you lose a LOT of sp. faciles grant you (at best) 9 sp per, giving you a total of 18 sp. however, it takes extra sp per to equip, not to mention the -14 str/defense from cumu.
    in total, you lose 30sp by using faciles + cumu with perfect rolls on both sp. using finesse instead would give you better spell damage in addition to 48 more sp.

    c. prognosticum doesn't do much, just a small water damage buff (already capped out on lifesteal). megabyte would be better due to higher damage buff in addition to sp.

    d. powders aren't completely optimal, i would suggest a6 w6 w6 a6 if you want curse, apply the first 3 powders and get curse, then apply the 4th powder afterwards (the special shouldn't change) in other words, apply the first 3 powders, exit the menu, then apply the last powder.

    e. hitting 89 int doesn't do anything better than 68 except a tiny water damage boost, due to mage having no spells that cost 5 or 10 mana. it's 94 or bust basically.

    sorry if i sound critical >.<

    here would be what i would do:
    https://wynndata.tk/s/H4iaF9

    idk
     
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    Tyler4011 wicked wowza HERO

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    I needed to hear this, I still don't really know what I'm doing build-wise, just tried to make the highest spell / water / air / thunder % really lol
     
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    Druser ele defs don't matter HERO Featured Wynncraftian

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    Lunar Spine is somewhat like Pure in that it has relatively low base damage coupled with high natural percent boosts, so items like Cumulonimbus and Steamjet Walkers are a lot less useful here. You're better off boosting secondary stats, since mana steal is usually maxed anyway, mana regen is uncounterable, -tier is uncounterable and you wouldn't really want to counter it anyway, etc. Hence Undefined + Gigabyte - raw damages are particularly strong on Mage because of the high spell multipliers (meteor is 400%), you get some skill points, and mostly counter Lunar Spine's -hpr. Likewise, Soul Signal and Unravel are used for their high raw spell. You could also use The Crossing for solid chunk of extra meteor damage and some extra health, although it'll push down earth defense significantly and also decrease heals a bit. Instead of FtW+Gigabyte you could also use Prowess+Ominous Wind, which will boost earth defense and health at the cost of not being able to fully counter -hpr on a good Lunar Spine.
     
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    Madkurre construction worker HERO

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    sweet air prison my dude, just do awww or better yet: twat

    tbh if you're not using taurus with lunar, what are you doing? youre wasting half the fun of it
    heres what i would do
    if you want a bit better defs then ok switch lodestone to like malachite or rainbow
    if you dont have a detective's ring, any sp ring will do
    -hpr and -ls doesnt need to be countered just have heal active at all times when fighting
    since lunar spine has the base damage of super slow, it gains fucktons from the melee % damage boost of taurus on top of the crazy amount of raw. this makes your melee attacks and chains fat as fuck. now theres also a decent chance for explosions happening which will also deal a decent amount of damage anywhere with minions around.
     
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    actually, about the air prison

    the powder special doesn't change (according to @hppeng 's testing) if you already have one.

    basically, apply your lunar with a6 w6 w6 and get curse, THEN apply the finaly a6 and you get to keep curse

    wynndata treats it like you did all 4 at once. (though ye, no taurus is an oof)
     
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    Madkurre construction worker HERO

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    oh i wonder if thats been changed then, i remember getting curse on an az by doing wtttw (you can only pit 4 powders on at once so i got killstreak first but it changed) and i remember testing it with some other item beforehand for this exact situation
     
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    huh, guess you're right, guess i was lied to big sad

    anyway, yeah a6 w6 w6 w6, or actually w6 a6 a6 w6 gives more damage but ssh

    didn't use twat because no taurus (oof)
     
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    hppeng 0 intel is the correct amount of intel HERO

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    WTTW would give you curse

    WTT W would give you chain

    Tested with t4 powders and idr what weapon
     
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    then test again, then send me screenshot of weapon, cause maybe i'm doing something horribly wrong
     
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    hppeng 0 intel is the correct amount of intel HERO

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    Rip
    Either bad memeory or update changed how it works, doesn't work
     
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