The Biggest Scam

I think there are very much a reason, though it is quite small. In the update there are craftable items for Lvl 101 - 103 that is probably crafted with Lvl 100 materials. Following the crafting trend, if Lvl 90 - 99 items are crafted with Lvl 90 materials, then Lvl 100 Gathering Professions becomes much less significant and less important, so they added a Lvl 100 Material that can be used to craft Lvl 101 - 103 Items to follow the trend of a new Material every 10 levels. I think there was also Lvl 110 Dernic Materials as well.

 

Here is my question; why in the hell did they add these 3 levels and just delete peoples XP? Salted himself said they are meant to be cosmetic and for fun. There is absolutely no reason to even add them and only downsides to adding them.

 

"101 and 104 levels are purely cosmetic and supposed to be an easter egg why are people complaining for a couple of numbers"
"This is just karma for CSST"
"I don't know why you guys didn't see this coming"


I have literally counseled mentally challenged children who had a better problem solving skills than most of the replies against this thread's premise

 

Salted why do you think people pay for cosmetic things? They like them and they want them. There wasn't forewarning that their achievements would be completely removed after the patch. I have loved the update so far, but xp should have carried over between updates. There was no reason to diminish the time spent by players. I hate on CSST just like other forumers, but completely disregarding the mobs killed counts, the dungeon runs, and the donators who took the time to make those things happen is just sad.

@SaltyKing it's not stealing. It's erasing. Specifically; erasing the achievements of the players. It's disrespectful is what it is, but it's not stealing so don't call it that.
@Wynn: The Anime Yea it's basically a CSST xp purge that also affects xp from other sources. Xp from quests and mobs, both xp sources that should be highly regarded, was also lost.

 

I'll never get why people spend this much time and money on a game. I mean, sure, I like cosmetics and taunts in TF2, and having VIP+ is neat, but... this is just a number that goes up. It's not permanent: everyone's going to quit Wynncraft some day or another, so I'd say better spend those bars of gold on things like a car, or education, or other real-life stuff. I don't think paying this much money for some skill points and a place on a leaderboard is a good investment. That's my personal argument. Now for the logical one:

A scam, going purely by definition, is when someone puts a product on the market for a price too high than its actual worth. A scam is also when someone sells someone a product and does not deliver it. All purely for monetary gain. The customer is left unsatisfied. So while the last is undoubtedly true, the Wynncraft Team did not sell anything for too high a price. They also delivered the products people bought. So it's not a scam, but that word was probably used metaphorically. The official store sells products, which you can use to, say, get to lvl 101. The actual experience points or the level count itself is not sold, and the customer is responsible for his own bought products. So unless people used bombs that directly gave you exp, the Team is not legally obliged to give you your experience or money back (the latter they already don't do, as stated in the Terms of Service).

I think this explains the entire issue very well - but there are two ways you can look at this. The achievement could be seen as spending time and money to get to a certain point - erasing this could be seen as disrespectful, because the Team would be ignoring their players' hard work. The achievement could also be considered being at the top of the leaderboard, not regarding the way you reach it. If you were to do that, someone else would have to take the number one spot instead, but that didn't happen because the level cap got increased, so nobody is at the top: it has yet to be reached. Erasing that might be completely fine, because you were not cheated out of your gold medal, which you can still get. If I understand it correctly, and I probably don't, but I hope I do, that's where the community is divided.

So what now?

 

extra xp:
1,033,639,033
hmmmmmmmmmm

nothing to show

 

It's not illegal but it's unfair and upsets the playerbase which isn't particularly something you should do if you want to keep your dedicated players

 

The first part of your argument makes reasonable sense.Not illegal but certainly not the morally correct thing to do. But that part. That part right there.

Your saying that its ok to take something away from someone... as long as they can get it back.

We will take one of USA's greatest swimmers. Has an incredible amount of olympic gold medals.
So its fine for the olympic committee to say.
"Ya know what phelps, All these medals that you won... We are going to strip them from you... But its ok... because you can just compete in more races and win new ones!"

 

this is bullshit.
on a suggestion by @Headset_O i suggested that a new leaderboard be made for all levels and to keep the combat lvl only leaderboard
no1 saw it though
this suggestion would fix it all and i still stand by it

 

Some day cars are going to be obsolete, education will be replaced my memory implantation, and gold bars will be replaced by bit coins, but people still work towards getting those things. I wonder why.

 

I am very confused?
Are you agreeing with me or trying to hijack my thread?
Can you dm me this other thread btw?

 

no it's a place where donators can support the developers with money. They can choose what bonuses they want for supporting the server, but the payment is non-binary; Wynncraft doesn't owe you anything outside what you requested in the donation.

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You've completely missed the point. These players have... had enough xp to get to level 104 multiple times. They've accrued more xp than they were ever intended to on purpose as a sign of their dedication to the game beyond just the purple forum tag or extra character slots. That's why it's disrespectful. It's ignoring an aspect of the game that players actually worked towards and *actually* set them apart from every other player.

 

difference is that there's no cap to gold medals, there was a "cap" to xp

it was "established" that you shouldn't be getting xp past 101 by the fact that 102 didn't exist.

 

but.... dungeon and xp bombs give a massive advantage? :thinking: Maarcus spent 1000s of dollars and has like 3 1313 accounts, i think that's good evidence against that ;p

do you ever hear something so well said and something so relatable and just so good ur just... ahhgggg.. ily drew

both lmao

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https://forums.wynncraft.com/threads/display-level-in-chat.238519/

 

But you could still get higher then 101 in the fact that exp still counted and it showed and mattered on the wynncraft leaderboards which encourages competition and as such leveling past 101. Whether it was intended or not.

Also not sure what you mean by there is no cap on gold medals?

 

I have read a lot of posts here about the level cap increase not being necessary or bad. I don't agree. I think the level cap did need to increase, but not to piss off veterans with massive xp saved lose it all, or to fix the problems with CSST and xp exploitation, or to attract old players with the prospect of returning to reach the new max level. No, I think increasing the level solves one of the problems I had with level 101 previously: it wasn't purely cosmetic. 2 more skill points is a big bonus that shouldn't have been associated with a joke level in the first place and the update does fix that. Now you get 101 scaled normally and can level up to 104. That's great! I think it covers all the aspects that I listed AND fixes my problem with it (which I think the CT probably were more concerned about given their game balance oriented mindsets on display here). The main point of the thread still stands, but I wanted to defend the reason for the increase, just not its execution regarding large xp holders.

 

Yeah I honestly don't mind the increase in level cap (Although total level looks really dumb now xD)
I just feel a little crap about how it was all handled.

And hell yeah calling 101 a 100% cosmetic class which Salted himself said when it gives 2SP... yeah nah cuz.

 

Salted, you cannot be serious. I've commented 4 times now regarding leveling in Wynncraft and how it's not a factor of game completion. Not only that, but these are COSMETIC LEVELS. They're moot in terms of game completion. You'd be just as done with the game at level 101. And in the case of these players that grinded past 101, which is what this entire thread is centered around, when has level cap ever stopped them from playing the game? There's still a ton more content to be had outside of a level cap. How is raising your cosmetic level that you put in the time and efforts for going to get you through all of the content this update has to offer? You already have access to all content at level 101.

"Bit surprised there's a 8 pages thread about this..."
Maybe it's because a part of your community feels cheated. Couldn't be.

 

Honestly, I was quite disappointed by the fact that the staff was arguing with the community. I was even more disappointed when one of the owners decided to also not listen to the community. The thing about making a game is that the game is not made for the staff or for the owners, it is made for the players of the game. Feedback is the most important thing when it comes to something made for an audience like games, food, hotels, and stores. I work at a store and they are rewarding people for taking a survey and giving feedback on what to improve and will warn or write employees for not telling the customers about the survey. Feedback is something that people get rewarded for in other places, in wynn you just get made fun of by the staff and they argue with you about how stupid you are. Because how bad of an experience I have previously had, and how shitty this situation has been, I have decided that I am leaving wynn for good and not gonna be coming back no matter what updates are made to the game. Maybe staff will change their attitude towards feedback but there is almost no hope left for wynn as even one of the owners is not taking legitimate feedback and just fighting with the community.