Assassin/Ninja Cata Build

https://wynndata.tk/s/zG0KXv

Rate this build plz ;)
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4.★★★★☆
5.★★★★★

Usable after nerf
(Needs at leeast 25sp vaward, 7sp finesse)

 

2 star build

 

the problem is that even though you have high damage you have low mana (and not much survivability either)

 

First, i think 4/4mr and 2/4ms would be enough
Second, assassin doesn't need the kind of survivability coz they can just repeat vanish, spin attk, and run

 

While on paper, that might sound actually cool, I have enough experience to know that wynncraft is not that kind to players.
For instance, take LI. Flamethrower spell is homing, and since you have not much agility, you will be either constantly running away (which will work PERFECTLY for Matrojan Idol) or you will get hit at least once, which will kindly dispell vanish for you so you don't have to do that. Now take that 2k dmg per hit with flamethrower and your 8.4k health, and you got yourself some serious problem. Same goes for chargespam or almost every other spell, because of your meh elemental defenses. Additionally, you won't be able to spam spells that much. You can cast 2 spins for a total of 6 mana, and then you have to pretty much wait the next 4 seconds to steal 2 and regen 4 mana back up.

I am by no means a buildmaker, but I think I do understand a bit about whether builds are sucking out the potential of a weapon or if they are just "Hey that looks okay."

 

Yeah I agree that flame thrower sucks :/

 

1 star, you step on a pebble, you die, mob casts a spell you die, you die you die you die you die

Also Assassin does need survivability, I solo LI consistently, and believe me, you wont survive even Plague Doctor. Poor MR, poor health, poor mana steal, only good damage, and that too you're sacrificing too much for 3k extra damage per spin

 

I like the spectrum use but 3/5 cuz only 8k hp

 

Her Cataclysm will be around 6.5k cos it's negative 5k and Wynndata calculates best possible ID's sooooooooooo tis trash

 

Fact:
1. It can survive li boss' hit up to 3times (not that much but think of it as having 3chances to escape)
2. I got up to before cybel using the build (ofc it can beat cybel using kill streak but coz of my bad skills)
3. if you use hit n run strategy you will think that the mana is enough

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And for spell, you need to git gud and escape when it's charging spell

 

Alright, if you take the hit and run tactic, then you're gonna take a long time to do each boss probably. How much time did you take to go upto Cybel?

 

Not much 3minute/each boss so like 24minute

Edit: yahya takes like 5minute so ill change that to 26

 

Ok
and my full blown poison dodegar's ultimate weapon build was also able to do that.
Guess we should all just go dodegar's ultimate weapon now.
My point is just because it can do stuff in no way makes it optimal.
Also, when you say it can survive LI boss hits up to 3 times, I seriously doubt that you're talking about spells (cough Corkus Accipientis Elf Meteor Spell cough).
As for the actual build.

Good damage, not terrible elemental defenses, and at least you can get a 40% dodge chance if you put all extra sp into agility. However, unless using a secondary of some sorts, low mana sustain and only has 8k hp (assuming you have a good cata as well). While you could argue that you can use the "hit and run" strategy or whatever you want to call it, what happens if things go downhill for you and you need to spam spells in a panic to escape? Oh, you used your mana already and you need to wait another 4 seconds for it to recharge? Oh well I guess you're kinda screwed.
If you also believe that you have the ability to never be hit if you

according to you, then that logic is flawed. Despite how hard you try, something will still inevitably hit you, possibly with a ohko such as Cybel charge.
And if you say "just use skill or mana pots" then you can basically ignore all of this because those make basically anything possible and/or viable.

 

Ok I agree that cybel's charge or can almost one shot you but I think that almost every glass build would be the same. And as for mana you're talking about, no. You don't get screwed. Since the build is high on intel (of course compared to other cata build) it gets 1cost vanish which fills up in no time. I used this build for a while and there was no situation as you sais

 

Cybel can basically one shot anything, but this build in particular can be one shot way more than just Cybel, as I mentioned Accipientis almost definitely can with honestly not even just meteor now that I think about it. This is the constant problem with cata in particular, as it is usually glassy without having one with really good hp, but this build is even glassier than your usual cata build without the mana to be able to support it effectively.

Spells can still hit you while you're in vanish and you yourself admitted that flamethrower in particular in response to Kaname's post

can and has done this. So yes, you will get screwed if you have to try and spam vanish away (which will then cause the mana cost to increase if you begin to panic) while still being chased. What happens if you are out of mana from going into do the damage and then are unable to have the mana to effectively get out of tight situations such as with flamethrower?
If you try to say flamethrower is irrelevant because not a lot of LI bosses have it, 4/10 LI bosses have flamethrower (Matrojan Idol's first phase, Bob and his fire sword, Cybel's Cores in their first phase, and Doc's first phase), so I'd say it's a pretty prominent as a spell in LI along with multiple other spells that can easily one shot this build due to it's low hp and/or def.

 

Flame thrower captures most of the space among skills. Except that, other skills can be avoided easily. Take charge for example. You can just spin and multi hit him so that exploding doesn't hit you. Meteor can be avoided by spamming vanish when there is a line of flame is coming to you or when it is charging the spell.
I mean every skills including flame thrower can be avoided at spell charging level where white sparkly things are around the mob (hard to explain but you know it) which will take like 1.5seconds
You'll probably say it's easy to just talk on here but if you try it you'd realize it's quite usable

 

sure it may be usable but it's not optimal. with that kind of mana, nirvana gets far higher dps (then there's even curse) with higher survivability

 

But you should think about melee when talking about dps. Nirvana is spell spamming but cata is hybrid
Since special ability like curse or chain lightning is activated with melee hits you should consider it too
In addition you can get kill streak when you powder thunder to armor. Ofc water build can use it too by powdering thunder but it has better synergy with thunder builds.
Nevertheless talking about survivability, I agree that nirvana is better for survivng (tho it can only survive 1 or 2 hits from li bosses)

 

-why would you want kill streak on nirvana? heard of concentration before?
-anyway, even if you do factor in melee, nirvana gets higher dps because curse increases
-damage by far more than chain lightning does.
-even though you have 2/4 ms, no items lowering attack speed so even chain lightning will only -proc ms once on average even if you hit 9 targets
finally, with nirvana, you don't have to worry about this go in, spin+multi then run away until mana regen. you can just go ham with something like spin spin smoke spin spin multi and even keep the enemy immobilized with stunlock

(by the way, after the nerf, your build can BARELY reach 94 int, 89 int for level 100 because 33sp vaward lul)

 

I mean nirvana has normal attk speed so charging curse takes some time while cata needs less time (correct me if i got the mechanism wrong of special ability)
And ok nirvana can use concentration
But it's just a matter of your taste or boss style
If the boss has lots of minimob then ks can be better and if there isn't, concentration can be better.

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Plus I think 94intel would be enough coz it's not a water build

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I'm not arguing that my build is superior but just correcting the misconceptions people have about my build