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Archer/Hunter Poison/walkspeed

Discussion in 'Class Builds' started by CountBurn, Oct 28, 2018.

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  1. CountBurn

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    Dr Zed Famous Adventurer

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    Having horrendous air and water defenses is definitely not worth 4.6k dps and decent walkspeed. One hit by a water enemy and you’re done for.
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    Plus melee archer without damage is absolute trash.
     
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    its not melee archer, you use archers spells like arrow sheild and arrow storm which throw tons of arrows everywhere, just a single arrow will activate poison. also speed helps the 70% walk speed but yea the defenses are trash but its not like having defense on an archer will help that much
     
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    Shots Legendary Adventurer HERO

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    Having a more than a measly 28.3% agility proc chance max with bad defenses is tho
    and if you say "lol just pop an agility skill pot" or "don't get hit" I swear to god
     
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    True, but you have no mana regen and only 2/4 mana steal, which then you need to use melee and is barely anything to begin with. So you can't really spam spells (especially since you have negative intelligence points initially). Sure, you can spend the max 33 skill points into intelligence, but that's counter-productive b/c A) It only nets you a 23% reduction in mana usage (which isn't that useful or enough to actually reduce mana like 25%) and B) Those points are better spent into agility and defense b/c your defenses are bad (especiallly since it's archer), and you don't even have any points in agility (which is the most important part of a speed/glass cannon build).

    Not mention that you have negative health regen and life steal, so the only way you can recover bits of your health over time without wasting potions is, again, melee. And still, the damage overall is just not worth what you're sacrificing. You're basically a glass cannon without the damage, which is the worst possible combination.
     
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    Violet Knight Aspiring front-end developer

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    '-71 health regen'
    How do people actually survive with that? Do you just have to drink potions all the time?
     
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    Even an agility pot wouldn't save him that much. Anything that's over -100 defenses (especially almost -600....) isn't worth dealing with.
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    Life-steal via melee. Or potions. But you'd have to carry more potions if you were to solely rely on them, and since the negative health regen chips away at your health slowly, you'd probably not utilize the full potential of a potion in the spur of a moment.
     
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    I know it has bad defences but a plus of being a poison build and an archer is that you can be far away from the boss and let the poison tick damage for you
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    ok I know it doesnt have 7/4 mana regen, 100 rainbow def and is using all meta items but I searched for "poison/speed build" and the last one made was a year ago
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    Well this is why posion/speed builds aren't in the meta: They give less than average damage in exchange for decent walkspeed and unplayable defenses. Maybe this could be viable for a warrior, but still. You need great defenses and agility to stay long enough in the fight for the poison to do it's work. Which again, bc you have low damage and it's poison, the fight will take longer than average, which isn't going in your favor. Another huge problem with this build is that you spend so much points into damage-increasing stats like Dex and Str, but they don't increase your damage at all! It's extremely counterproductive of what your build needs to balance out the cons.
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    The moment you get cornered or shot by a projectile you didn't see or couldn't avoid, you're dead. Especially if it's a water or air enemy.
     
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