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Assassin/Ninja Just For Fun 3: Necrosis + Taurus + Dodegar's Ultimate Weapon

Discussion in 'Class Builds' started by Druser, Oct 24, 2018.

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  1. Druser

    Druser ele defs don't matter HERO Featured Wynncraftian

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    Shots Legendary Adventurer HERO

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    the funny thing is if you tweak the build a bit you actually get a decent-good but sp tight specialist build https://wynndata.tk/s/awrJMb lol
     
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    Druser ele defs don't matter HERO Featured Wynncraftian

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    I need to brush up on my damage calculation... how does this work in terms of elemental damage vs. negative melee/spell damage?
     
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    Shots Legendary Adventurer HERO

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    Idk
    I just know specialist has enough %elemental damage to negate necrosis's -spell % and -melee % and necro's -spell % and -melee % don't affect things like raw melee (taurus)
     
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    Kawaii__Turtle Kawaiiest of Turtles CHAMPION

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    As I recall from when I played this game 2-3 years ago
    Damage x (1+(%spell/melee + %elemental)) is more or less what it does
    EDIT wait when did cancer get renamed
     
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    Druser ele defs don't matter HERO Featured Wynncraftian

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    Cancer was renamed with 1.17.7, I think around 3 weeks ago.
     
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    Druser ele defs don't matter HERO Featured Wynncraftian

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    Fire powders for Courage. This is starting to look pretty good...
     
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    Shots Legendary Adventurer HERO

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    Imo I think curse is better than courage on specialist mainly due to the fact that specialist has more damage if you powder it water anyways but it depends on preference
     
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    ew prepowdered armors misleading asf

    im pretty sure that specialist is designed so that when used with t6 powders, all the powders will do the same damage. so it doesn't matter what you powder it with. with that being said, thunder (or maybe earth) for highest raw damage, since highest dex/str and also thunder damage from static necklace (although barely makes a difference either way).

    courage vs curse is debatable though
     
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    Shots Legendary Adventurer HERO

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    for some reason I read that the water powdered was doing 11600 before and not practically the same as fire lol my mistake
    however it's untrue (for this build anyways) if you just experiment with it you'll see that air/earth (earth is close tho but only due to strength) will do less than fire/water in this build
    and the only reason fire is hitting near the same as water here is due to how much def there is over intel
    thunder just has a huge range but on average it will still do less than fire/water in this build
    so ye it comes down to
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    didn't you say once that fixing defenses with powders was fine tho btw :thonk:
     
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    Ceciliya Fallen Factory Addict CHAMPION

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    curse is always better than courage when it comes to poison
     
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    Druser ele defs don't matter HERO Featured Wynncraftian

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    Ah, I always forget about Curse affecting Poison. Imo that basically settles it, especially if one were to use this build against bosses.
     
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    SoccerDefense11 Well-Known Adventurer HERO

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    But courage is better in team fights


    but no one does team fights
     
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    yes, but courage has the group hit upon activation for lifesteal idk (tbh curse is better because usually more enemies have fire resistance and water weakness but idk)
    idk times change and whatnot, forgot which post it was you were referring to, the only one i can think of off the top of my head was a flameshot hilt build, in which the defenses had essentially canceled out (endurance + water powder)
     
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    Curse is always better than courage in poison builds and spell builds (i.e. sequoia, fatal, black arrow, etc). I guess for spell builds technically courage is better in wars, but wars lol. Most of the time you do it with archer anyway, so powder specials are irrelevant. Other than that the only time its better is on melee builds (i.e. gaia, apoc, etc).

    It'll pretty much always be this way lul, it's hard for courage to outclass curse, mainly because curse is op imo lol
     
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    Lego_DW yeppers HERO

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    it would be better for guild wars, but that doesnt make the build itself good for wars lmao
     
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    honestly, that's far more sp tight. it may look more forgiving in SP, but one of the items is a Blue Mask and another is Prism, which will make getting the build (likely) harder than the ones listed above in terms of sp, not to mention it's a slayer build which will make it more expensive.
     
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    SoccerDefense11 Well-Known Adventurer HERO

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    ok imma go change it up a bit
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    https://wynndata.tk/s/v861ME
    Much less sp tight, but much lower dps
     
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