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Archer/Hunter Some Insanely High Dps Builds

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  1. Crokee

    Crokee Nudist poking eyes CHAMPION

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    Note that all builds are powdered. Best build on this list is the last one in each element category (usually the higher damaging one). These builds aren't as glassy as you may think.

    Spoilers within each category are variations of the build above them.

    For Morph builds, substituting a second Morph-Emerald in replace of Morph-Topaz gives you an extra 225 hp, but it may cost a little bit more sp (1-3 sp). RIP Morph-hybrid builds :(

    I may seem to use low mr/ms, but take a look at the following on how mana is conserved:

    Assume a build with 4/4s mr and 110 int like this one: https://wynndata.tk/s/Q4u2HB

    4/4mr + 5/4 passive mr = 9/4mr total

    Spell cycles are basically a way to avoid the increasing cost of casting the same spell over and over again without waiting ~2 seconds for the mana cost to reset. To achieve this, you must use one spell and then use a different spell. Then rinse and repeat. This allows spell spamming despite low mr. In terms of archer builds, ms can be put in in addition to mr during arrow storms, as you are able to cast storm and then immediately melee until after the storm finishes.

    Using a spell cycle of storm, bomb, storm, and since that build has 110 int, this means 2 + 3 + 2 mana = 7 mana. That means within 4 seconds, you use 7 mana and still have 2 leftover mana for the next cycle, to which you can do bomb, storm, bomb, storm and have 1 mana left over. These extra mana can be used for recovering from mistakes/escaping. For more reference on how mana cycles work, refer to madkurre's thread here.

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    https://wynndata.tk/s/Tp1JEa
    • 10.9k hp with 215/4s ls
    • A little bit of negative elemental defenses
    • 0 def, 20 agi
    • 6/4s mr, 5/4s ms, 105 int
    • 2.3k melee dps
    • 12.3k bombs
    This build provides decent damage while also having a means of regaining hp through ls and negative tier stacking. Silkweb Mail is perfect for that kind of combo. Note the added int.
    https://wynndata.tk/s/TOeZK9
    • 10.9k -> 12.4k hp
    • A little bit of negative elemental defenses -> Some negative elemental defenses
    • 5/4s ms -> 0/4s ms
    • 2.3k -> 3.8k melee dps
    • 12.3k -> 12.1k bombs
    I suppose if you want more hp at a cost of a bunch of other stuff or just trying to use memechief, here you go.

    Melee:
    https://wynndata.tk/s/uhYtAJ
    • 16.3k hp with -138 hpr
    • Extremely high negative elemental defenses
    • 0 (-3) def, 55 agi
    • 0/4s mr, 0/4s ms, 0 int
    • 27.7k melee dps
    • 0 bombs
    Don't judge me on this build, I was experimenting with melee Grandmother and I got this weird build. I don't know why you would want a melee archer build but here you go I guess.

    Glassy:
    https://wynndata.tk/s/ecK34G
    • 16.3k hp with -138 hpr
    • High positive elemental defenses
    • 0 (-11) def, 0 agi
    • 6/4s mr, 1/4s ms, 105 int
    • 8.9k melee dps
    • 17.3k bombs
    This build has some earth powders on the armor to take advantage of rage, but it is quite glassy due to negative hpr and no def and agi sp. High health should make up for it though. I am a little bit bothered by the low mr/ms.


    Capricorn:
    https://wynndata.tk/s/gnZ1VJ
    • 14.5k hp with -186 hpr and 384/4s ls
    • High positive elemental defenses
    • 0 (-14) def, 75 agi
    • 8/4s mr, 4/4s ms, 74 int
    • 2.4k melee dps
    • 16.4k bombs
    Here's a more sustainable option compared to the above build. If you don't care about fixing negative elemental defenses (its not that bad anyway), use earth powders for rage for even more damage output.
    https://wynndata.tk/s/0XkPTm
    • 14.5k with -186 -> 11.7k hp with -368 hpr
    • High -> Positive elemental defenses
    • 2.4k -> 2.8k melee dps
    • 16.4k -> 18.3k bombs
    Here is an example where I powdered the armor with earth powders instead for rage. Even though the build says there's negative elemental defenses, getting rid of the rage to fix the elemental defenses will turn it positive easily.

    https://wynndata.tk/s/2nQ3DZ (by @Madkurre)
    • 10.9k hp
    • High positive elemental defenses
    • 27 def, 0 agi
    • 8/4s mr, 7/4s ms, 79 int
    • 5.6k melee dps
    • 13.0k bombs
    This build is the first of many high dps thunder builds to be posted on this thread. Although good damage, it has little def sp and NO AGI.


    https://wynndata.tk/s/OC7pwY
    • 9.7k hp with 134 hpr
    • Very little negative elemental defenses
    • 3 def, 75 agi
    • 7/4s mr, 7/4s ms, 74 int
    • 5.3k melee dps
    • 11.9k bombs
    This build has a little bit lower damage than the first build, however, it has agi. On top of that, a little bit of hr is nice. I have soloed LI with this (with pots).


    Morph:
    https://wynndata.tk/s/IAgM7E
    • 10.2k hp
    • Very little negative elemental defenses
    • 43 def, 75 agi
    • 7/4s mr, 3/4s ms, 74 int
    • 5.9k melee dps
    • 13.0k bombs
    Morph-slapping ya say? Actually morph is really really good at increasing damage without even suffering hp loss. You even get extra sp to make the build more tanky/deal even more damage!
    https://wynndata.tk/s/40Ww5q
    • Very little negative elemental defenses -> Positive elemental defenses
    • 75 -> 87 agi
    • 5.9k -> 6.9k melee dps
    • 13.0k -> 13.4k bombs
    Substituting Leictreach Makani into Thunder Sanctuary gives a little bit more earth defense and allows you to add in thunder powders to your armor to get that little boost in damage. If you have a godly Leictreach Makani, I'd suggest you use this build instead. I am currently using this build and that extra ws is very nice to use. Soloing li with this build with only hp pots is possible. except when cybel decides to dup itself :(

    Now onto Divzer cause I am clearly obsessed with it. After looking through most of the divzer builds posted here, I was not satisfied with any of the builds. 9k melee dps, 17k bombs, rAinBoW sLaPpING, req agi on a Divzer?! After hours of looking up items, I got these builds below:


    Morph:
    https://wynndata.tk/s/YExePo (by @by2011)
    • 11.0k hp with 865/4s ls
    • Positive elemental defenses
    • 43 def
    • 5/4s mr, 8/4s ms, 68 int
    • 12.3k melee dps
    • 20.1k bombs
    Well thanks to @by2011, we now have a Morph build! This build uses double Morph-Topaz, so I would suggest adding one Morph-Emerald instead so as to gain an extra 225 hp with no extra cost to sp: https://wynndata.tk/s/qMKv6O
    Do make note of the extra sp that went into int; it will really help with spell cycling.
    https://wynndata.tk/s/STVHrt
    More mr and higher bombs, but very sp tight.

    Cinderchain:
    https://wynndata.tk/s/u2NUWX
    • 9.7k hp with 865/4s ls
    • Some negative elemental defenses
    • 57 def
    • 4/4s mr, 11/4s, 114 int
    • 12.7k melee dps
    • 21.8k bombs
    Cinderchain is good with Divzer builds for many reasons. High hp, req def sp (you really need def sp for Divzer), and high thunder and spell damage. -1 attack speed? Screw that, Divzer is super fast attack speed WITH +1 attack speed.
    57 def sp is not that bad considering that a lot of the build's sp already went into dex and int. All you really need is a Third Eye with 4/4s mr, and everything else is static. 114 int is very high despite the low mr. Make note of the added sp into int.
    https://wynndata.tk/s/ndXaoP
    An extra 2/4s mr and more elemental defenses at a cost of some dps.


    Medeis:
    https://wynndata.tk/s/YOfCxg
    • 11.0k hp with 690/4s ls
    • A little bit of negative elemental defenses
    • 57 def
    • 6/4s mr, 8/4s ms, 80 int
    • 11.5k melee dps
    • 21.9k bombs
    I tried making a build using Medeis and it didn't come out as bad as I had thought.


    Godly:
    https://wynndata.tk/s/pmHQ2c
    • 11.3k hp with 690/4s ls
    • Some negative elemental defenses
    • 40 def
    • 6/4s mr, 8/4s ms, 80 int
    • 12.6k melee dps
    • 22.7k bombs
    THIS BUILD IS INSANE. Damage is the highest I seen while still not being as glassy as full on 5k hp glass builds. AND you also have 40 def sp as well! Only one problem: you need a godly Asphyxia and a godly Memento. Asphyxia needs to have a good amount of spell and melee raw damage and a really high thunder damage. Memento needs to have a godly amount of spell damage. Memento does not need to have max mr, so you can save a few le out of that.
    Not going to describe these builds because they are just variations of the build above.
    https://wynndata.tk/s/8xsfQI
    https://wynndata.tk/s/CDOIbG


    Noteworthy builds:
    https://wynndata.tk/s/vTstUr
    https://wynndata.tk/s/lJ6cth
    Not going to describe these builds too much, but these builds have higher damage than my Godly build. However, they suffer from a too low mr. At least the first one doesn't require any RNG other than Divzer and the second one needs a godly Memento.

    Anamnesis:
    https://wynndata.tk/s/k0J3BF
    • 8.6k hp
    • A little bit of negative elemental defenses
    • 7/4s mr
    • 2.8k melee dps
    • 11.1k bombs
    Ok this build has quite low melee dps. But first of all, why Anamnesis? Anamnesis has sweet mr, ms, % spell damage, and % water damage. At what cost? everything A very high negative hp. Making this build was hard and it still needs improvements. I feel like the pants needs to be changed, but I don't know what else to use. The mr and ms is very high, maybe too high, for the amount of int it has.


    Agi on Water (Capricorn):
    https://wynndata.tk/s/JhgxQZ
    • 9.2k hp
    • Very high amounts of negative elemental defenses
    • 5/4s mr
    • 4.5k melee dps
    • 11.2k bombs
    This build was also hard to make. Capricorn is nice for that mr and % spell damage, but it needs agi, which you do need but somehow water builds weren't really meant for it. I already find it odd how many of my water builds combo around def sp (see Cancer below). I like Charm of the Storms in this build though; nice name and damage and it's only for archer.
    https://wynndata.tk/s/HjMvaq
    I don't remember how I made this build was made but it's elemental defenses are really low.


    Cancer:
    https://wynndata.tk/s/shpvRW
    • 9.6k hp with 531 hpr
    • Positive elemental defenses
    • 4/4s mr
    • 4.7k melee dps
    • 10.8k bombs
    I tried using the new Cancer and man, Cancer has really good stats. 4k hp, hp regen, and defense! Mana regen may seem low but it has 112 int (just add 2 more int and you're set!) and 9/4 ms. You will need a near godly Medeis though, but you can substitute Diamond Hydro Ring with a Gold Hydro Ring to give you a bit more sp if your Medeis is lacking in sp.
    https://wynndata.tk/s/rdhoex
    A bit too high mr for this much int, but Inundatio is pretty cool.
    https://wynndata.tk/s/mTsuw5
    How about riverflow hmm... I like that those boots give pretty high mr without needing agi (Capricorn).


    More Cancer?!:
    https://wynndata.tk/s/nYRW2J
    • 10k hp with 443 hpr
    • Some negative elemental defenses
    • 6/4s mr
    • 4.5k melee dps
    • 11.5k bombs
    Ok Cancer again?! Yeah Cancer is so good for that hp. Anyway, I took all of the variants of the above Cancer builds and combined the together and added a Memento on there. Despite the negative ls, you got a pretty high hp regen to counter it. Plus 1k more bombs damage than all the other Cancer builds because Memento has 20% spell damage increase and some raw spell damage. This build is worth separating from the other Cancer builds.


    Earth/Water Hybrid:
    https://wynndata.tk/s/YJRzcF
    • 8.6k hp
    • High amounts of negative elemental defenses
    • 8/4s mr
    • 5.3k melee dps
    • 12.3k bombs
    I have to admit, I scrapped a lot of my earlier water builds before this one because they turned out to be very unsatisfactory for me. It's really hard to get 12k bombs while providing enough hp and not too much negative elemental defenses. Plus, trying to convert high mr builds into high dps builds are tough because most water items combo with mr, and as a result, they have less dps. Anyway, I decided to combo water with earth this time because water doesn't like thunder in general.


    Morph:
    https://wynndata.tk/s/7VZ3wQ
    • 9.1k hp
    • Positive elemental defenses
    • 4/4s mr
    • 5.3k melee dps
    • 13.0k bombs
    Yay another morph... Do make note of where the extra sp went into as that is key for much higher dps and for that sustainable spell cycling.

    I'll find a build that uses thunder with water someday... damn its hard

    After making a few Spring builds, I'm more convinced that Spring is overrated due to the low damage output it has.

    Caesura:
    https://wynndata.tk/s/JMjCxF
    • 8.9k hp with 137 hpr
    • A little bit of negative elemental defenses
    • 4/4s mr, 4/4s ms, 140 int
    • 4.7k melee dps
    • 12.4k bombs
    I tried using Caesura because I know that Spring builds tend to get way too much mr, so I tried reducing mr for increasing dps. It sorta worked I guess. Zhight Weird Magic Necklace sounds like a funny addition to this build, but it's one of the only necklaces that offer high damage for water.


    https://wynndata.tk/s/457sJn
    • 9.0k hp with 176 hpr
    • Positive elemental defenses
    • 8/4s mr, 3/4s ms, 140 int
    • 5.4k melee dps
    • 12.0k bombs
    This build looks extremely sp tight, but all you really need is a 6+/7 int Starglass, and the rest have no affect on the amount of sp required for the build to work. Like most Spring builds, this build has way too much mr for the amount of int that it has, but the dps output is pretty high.


    I have tried using Cancer for the purposes of using def sp instead of agi, but the damage output is very low, so I will not describe it in full detail: https://wynndata.tk/s/u396Y5


    Morph? coming soon

    I am borrowing an Ignis from a friend so I made plenty of builds for it. Many people downplay Ignis as not doing enough dps since its a tanky bow, but my builds say otherwise. Many of these builds are comparable to my dps thunder builds but way more tankier.

    Make note that the actual hp may be lower than these builds because of Ignis's hp ids.


    Anamnesis:
    https://wynndata.tk/s/gbTCaQ
    • 11.7k hp with 644 hpr
    • Very high amounts of negative elemental defenses
    • 7/4s mr
    • 3.9k melee dps
    • 12.2k bombs
    I tried using Anamnesis since Ignis builds offer lots of hp, but even then, its damage output is low mostly because Anamnesis is a water helmet. To combat that, I added higher dps armor pieces like Ophiuchus and Scaldsteppers, but the made the build have very high negative elemental defenses.


    Anima-Infused Helmet:
    https://wynndata.tk/s/kZzNxj
    • 15.0k hp with 811 hpr
    • Some negative amounts of elemental defenses
    • 8/4s mr
    • 4.1k melee dps
    • 12.2k bombs
    Tankiest Ignis build I made with a whopping 15k hp. This build is basically a variant of my Infused Hive Bow thunder builds except way tankier with the exception of no agi (but you do have 39 sp to put in agi if you'd like).
    Sodeta Boots sounds like a funny addition to this build but it has good mr, spell damage, and no sp requirements. Who cares about its low hp when you're running an Ignis build?
    https://wynndata.tk/s/PLIz1F
    If you want to be EVEN TANKIER with 900 more hp, more elemental fire defense, and more def sp with no cost to your dps, here you go. Only downside is you lose 25 in each elemental defense and have less extra sp, but 19 extra sp is still a lot.


    Third Eye:
    https://wynndata.tk/s/GrnQMm
    • 12.0k hp with 644 hpr
    • Very little negative elemental defenses
    • 6/4s mr
    • 4.7k melee dps
    • 12.2k bombs
    Third eye is such a great combo to pretty much any spell spam high dps builds. This build is no exception. Boasting 114 int (make sure you add that 2 extra sp into your build), 6/4s mr, and 12.2k bombs, this build is really good. 6/4s mr is a bit overkill so if you have a 3/4s or even 2/4s Third Eye, don't worry about it.


    Morph:
    https://wynndata.tk/s/98WXrg
    • 14.6k hp with 644 hpr (3rd time 644 hpr really...)
    • Positive elemental defenses
    • 6/4s mr
    • 4.4k melee dps
    • 12.2k bombs
    Okay, if theres a nerf to Morph builds, you might want to blame it on this one. This build is so god damn op, just take a look at it. High hp, positive elemental defenses (even without powdering!), 6/4s mr, 12k bombs, 100 def sp, and 43 agi?! This build both tanks AND has high dps!
    Yes Morph is OP so I want to see what else it can come up with.
    https://wynndata.tk/s/Ypu6Cj
    This build sacrifices 400 dmg bombs and 600 hp for 30 more agi, making this build EVEN TANKIER than the parent build. Personally, I would use this build because high agi is useful.
    https://wynndata.tk/s/wqxdR3
    Need more mr? This build sacrifices another 600 dmg bombs and 700 hp for 2/4s mr. At least this build is probably more sustainable in terms of mana usage and you get 3 armor pieces with endurance powder buff instead of 2.


    Glassy Ignis:
    https://wynndata.tk/s/CYHqts
    • 9.2k hp with 1575 hpr
    • Positive elemental defenses
    • 6/4s mr
    • 4.5k melee dps
    • 12.5k bombs
    Why did you make Ignis glassy? Well um why not? Sano's Care is the real reason for this, as it gives no hp in return of quite high elemental defenses, 3/4s mr, and some int and def sp. Add on Fire Sanctuary and you get a glassy build. This build has over 60 extra sp, so make use of that! Make sure to add in some sp to get at least 68 int for sustainable spell cycling.

    Gale's Force seems like a good bow so I gave it a shot.

    https://wynndata.tk/s/oTLC2H
    • 13.8k hp
    • High negative elemental defenses
    • 0 def, 123 agi
    • 6/4s mr, 3/4s ms, 74 int
    • 4.1k melee dps
    • 10.8k bombs
    Gale's Force doesn't look too bad in comparison to Infused Hive Bow. 123 agi, 105% walk speed, and 30 extra sp. I'd put those extra skill points into dex for a much higher dps and/or into int to 94 int for cheaper bombs. High hp for an air build is a bit funny to me but hey, it's here.
    https://wynndata.tk/s/7EKh5R
    This build is mainly for those that don't want to trade in their Master Hive Token in for intensity for a Gale's Force build. This is the build I currently use, and it's pretty good.


    https://wynndata.tk/s/y7BIFE (modified from @Druser's build, idea from @Shots)
    • 9.5k hp
    • High amounts of negative elemental defenses
    • 6/4s mr
    • 3.2k melee dps
    • 10.6k bombs
    Using the same air chestplate, Conduit of the Spirit's and @Druser's idea of The Ephemeral, this allows getting rid of Capricorn from the previous build and adding in a higher dps boots, Steamjet Walkers. There's even an improvement in elemental defenses, but if you want even more improvement, substitute Diamond Steam Ring with Rainbow (less dps) or Malachite (~ same dps, less extra sp). Make sure you add in more int to at least 68 (94 would be preferable) so that you don't have to worry too much about mr when spell cycling.
    https://wynndata.tk/s/VvFCfJ
    Has more health, essentially positive defenses, and a "screw you" mr and int, but 9k bombs.


    Leictreach Makani:
    https://wynndata.tk/s/y26whe
    • 9.5k hp
    • Positive elemental defenses
    • 6/4s mr, 3/4 ms, 74 int
    • 4.9k melee dps
    • 11.3k bombs
    Very sp tight, but dps and defenses are quite high. I would highly suggest using this build if you have all very good gear pieces.

    https://wynndata.tk/s/SItwfH
    • 11.1k hp
    • High amounts of negative elemental defenses
    • 6/4s mr, 3/4s ms, 74 int
    • 5.1k melee dps
    • 15.3k bombs
    I haven't made any Stratiformis builds other than this one, but 15.3k bombs sounds pretty high for an air bow. Note the added dex.

    https://wynndata.tk/s/nACQoq
    • 10.5k hp
    • Positive elemental defenses
    • 8/4s mr
    • 4.4k melee dps
    • 13.7k bombs
    Don't use this build unless you got perfect sp in all your gear. Stellar needs 45 sp req on everything instead of 30 as shown here, so if you really want to use this build, try substituting Stellar with Diamond Fusion Necklace or Gigabyte, and if necessary, intensity with Prism or Facile, at a cost of some hp and dps. Anyway 8/4s mr is overkill for this build so I'll make some modifications to this soon.

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    Did someone say GLASS CANNONS?!?!?!?!? REEEEEEEEE

    (This one here is copied over from Divzer)
    Godly:
    https://wynndata.tk/s/pmHQ2c
    • 11.3k hp with 690/4s ls
    • Some negative elemental defenses
    • 40 def
    • 6/4s mr, 8/4s ms, 80 int
    • 12.6k melee dps
    • 22.7k bombs
    THIS BUILD IS INSANE. Damage is the highest I seen for Thunder builds while still not being as glassy without the def/agi. AND you also have 40 def sp as well! Only one problem: you need a godly Asphyxia and a godly Memento. Asphyxia needs to have a good amount of spell and melee raw damage and a really high thunder damage. Memento needs to have a godly amount of spell damage. Memento does not need to have max mr, so you can save a few le out of that.
    This build has comparable damage to some of your glass cannons and even has def sp as well.


    Atlas Buffs (You're welcome by2011):
    https://wynndata.tk/s/EBO15Z (by @Druser)
    • 11.2k hp with 1034/4s ls
    • Extremely high negative elemental defenses
    • 4 def
    • 0/4s mr, 14/4s ms, 105 int
    • 2.9k melee dps
    • 22.1k bombs
    Why Atlas? So that you can trigger ls and ms a lot more often. On a glass cannon? Eh sure why not?

    Screw u int:
    https://wynndata.tk/s/60Reyu (modified from @PrimaNocta's build)
    • 8.0k hp with 989/4s ls
    • Extremely high negative elemental defenses
    • 0 def/agi (duh)
    • 5/4s mr, 13/4s ms, 0 int
    • 15.5k melee dps
    • 30.1k bombs
    I GUESS WE'RE GOING DOWN THE RABBIT HOLE!!! Who cares about int amirite? Surprisingly this has a lot more hp than I'd imagine.


    THE DEFINITION OF A GLASS CANNON (Thunder):
    https://wynndata.tk/s/pzH89x (modified from @PrimaNocta's build)
    • 11.0k hp with 865/4s ls
    • Extremely high negative elemental defenses
    • 0 def/agi (duh)
    • 7/4s mr, 16/4s ms, 68 int
    • 13.8k melee dps
    • 26.0k bombs
    You want glass cannon? I gib u cannon glassy! Brainwash is really good for providing high damage and mr at a cost of a lot of int sp. Since glass cannons don't use def/agi sp, why not use that extra sp for int? This build is very sp tight, and you will need a near perfect brainwash for this build to be viable. Make sure you have 68 int allocated.


    #$%Y^&Y*()$*(*GAY^&*(:
    https://wynndata.tk/s/Jr4Q87 (by @YYGAYMER)
    • 3.9k hp with -310 hpr
    • High negative elemental defenses
    • 9 def, 92 agi
    • 8/4s mr, 1/4s ms, 83 int
    • 6.9k (+400%) melee dps
    • 16.1k (+400%) bombs
    +400% (Technically about x2)? Where did that come from? I'll let YYGAMER explain for you: https://forums.wynncraft.com/thread...e-perfect-run-3rd-legendary-medallion.238172/


    Have fun using these builds! Now if I can only get my hands on a Divzer...
     
    Last edited: Jun 20, 2019
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    when only one of the divzer builds has actual agi :thinking: (well yeah most of em have def but sssssssssssssssh)

    neat stuff though
     
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    Crokee Nudist poking eyes CHAMPION

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    Well you can’t really use agi on Divzer because of its negative 478348938 agi but I see what you mean... forgot about morph set using agi hehehe...
     
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    well, here's the thing with divzer

    you don't have to hold it all the time, you can pull it out, cast a spell or two, then hold gale's force or strati or pretty much anything that gives you ws or agi. it's too annoying for me to constantly switch between 2 weapons, but i know some people do it and have a lot of success.

    you can also build def and essentially turn yourself into cataclysm (which seems to be what you did with a lot of your builds)
     
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    Crokee Nudist poking eyes CHAMPION

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    Hmm lets take a look at the Divzer with morph-slapping.

    Having max agi on all morph pieces gets you to 30 agi, barely enough for Chaser, a lv 39 air bow with 30% ws. Do not have max agi? You still have 12 extra sp to put in agi. Since this is a dungeon item, 30% ws will not change, so I guess it will be good for making quick getaways. Though I prefer using arrow shield or escape to get away from the enemy. It could work I guess.
     
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    Well, not necessarily getting away, but also holding it in between spell casts (out of mana, or low on mana)
     
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    Crokee Nudist poking eyes CHAMPION

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    For mana, I’d only have a second bow for mr only if I fail to cycle my spells or I mess up. For my builds, I make sure theres about enough mana to constantly spell cycle without stopping. This is how builds with low mr is still useable because spell cycles save you a lot of mana.
     
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    I clicked on this expecting a shitpost by the title of a 20k dps island sniper build tbfh
     
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    Updated builds. Slight Infused Hive Bow buff = more dps!!!
     
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    Ouch spell cycles don't help (I don't know what kurre suggests, but the cycle I use is bomb-bomb-shield, with an escape replacing shield occasionally if I get crowded) with that low mr, personally I tend to spam decently fast and have found the best balance in like 7/4 with 3 mana bombs (meaning your cycle is 3, 3, 5 mana use, or at least it was for my freedom build, it could be 3/3/4 I believe as well).

    4/4 is like a snail though, you'd need mana pots

    otherwise neat stuff
     
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    4/4mr + 5/4 passive mr = 9/4mr total

    Using a spell cycle of storm, bomb, storm, and since that build has 110 int, this means 2 + 3 + 2 mana = 7 mana. That means within 4 seconds, you use 7 mana and still have 2 leftover mana for the next cycle, to which you can do bomb, storm, bomb, storm and have 1 mana left over. These extra mana can be used for recovering from mistakes/escaping. For reference on how mana cycles work, refer to madkurre's thread here.
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    On other news, I tried a few builds based on Tesla, but I wasn't able to get a dps/bomb dmg value as high as the lowest dps/bombs dmg value posted on my list...

    Water bows next! when i have time :(
     
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    Sure you use 7 mana every four seconds but that assumes you're casting three spells every four seconds..

    that is ridiculously slow, honestly I'd find it harder to cast that slow than faster. Personally, that cycle takes me about two seconds, so I need more mr. Any slower of a cycle and I cant kill things fast enough with my builds (I use them for guild wars primarily, so there's a lot of mobs literally everywhere)
     
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    These builds are meant towards single targets, but I see what you mean. Bomb, shield, bomb spell cycle casts in about 2-3 seconds, and these builds probably won't be as useful when using this spell cycle (I just realized this combo is really good in wars). Storm, bomb, storm, however, casts about 3-4 seconds because of how long it takes for storm to finish casting.

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    Added a modification to my morph build: https://wynndata.tk/s/jiT2ME
     
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    since these divzer builds are mainly for single target like you said, putting skill points into defense is kind of useless assuming most mobs you'll encounter deal elemental damage
    Its better to get survivability from items that give walk speed without agil reqs, like Uriel for example
     
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    Trying to combo high elemental defenses with high dps is very hard, but I'll give it a shot. I used def sp as some sort of defense; otherwise these builds would be too glassy.

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    Added some builds:
    Water- https://wynndata.tk/s/YJRzcF
    Some variations of my best build- https://wynndata.tk/s/FOWw79 & https://wynndata.tk/s/quzdXJ

    Compartmentalized the thread
     
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    Removed outdated builds and added a bunch more water builds:

    Anamnesis:
    https://wynndata.tk/s/k0J3BF
    • 8.6k hp
    • A little bit of negative elemental defenses
    • 7/4s mr
    • 2.8k melee dps
    • 11.1k bombs
    Ok this build has quite low melee dps. But first of all, why Anamnesis? Anamnesis has sweet mr, ms, % spell damage, and % water damage. At what cost? everything A very high negative hp. Making this build was hard and it still needs improvements. I feel like the pants needs to be changed, but I don't know what else to use. The mr and ms is very high, maybe too high, for the amount of int it has.


    Agi on Water (Capricorn):
    https://wynndata.tk/s/JhgxQZ
    • 9.2k hp
    • Very high amounts of negative elemental defenses
    • 5/4s mr
    • 4.5k melee dps
    • 11.2k bombs
    This build was also hard to make. Capricorn is nice for that mr and % spell damage, but it needs agi, which you do need but somehow water builds weren't really meant for it. I already find it odd how many of my water builds combo around def sp (see Cancer below). I like Charm of the Storms in this build though; nice name and damage and it's only for archer.


    Cancer:
    https://wynndata.tk/s/shpvRW
    • 9.6k hp
    • Positive elemental defenses
    • 4/4s mr
    • 4.7k melee dps
    • 10.8k bombs
    I tried using the new Cancer and man, Cancer has really good stats. 4k hp, hp regen, and defense! Mana regen may seem low but it has 112 int (just add 2 more int and you're set!) and 9/4 ms. You will need a near godly Medeis though, but you can substitute Diamond Hydro Ring with a Gold Hydro Ring to give you a bit more sp if your Medeis is lacking in sp.
    Not going to describe these builds too much because they are just variations of the build above.
    https://wynndata.tk/s/rdhoex
    A bit too high mr for this much int, but Inundatio is pretty cool.
    https://wynndata.tk/s/mTsuw5
    How about riverflow hmm... I like that those boots give pretty high mr without needing agi (Capricorn).


    More Cancer?!:
    https://wynndata.tk/s/nYRW2J
    • 10k hp
    • Some negative elemental defenses
    • 6/4s mr
    • 4.5k melee dps
    • 11.5k bombs
    Ok Cancer again?! Yeah Cancer is so good for that hp. Anyway, I took all of the variants of the above Cancer builds and combined the together and added a Memento on there. Despite the negative ls, you got a pretty high hp regen to counter it. Plus 1k more bombs damage than all the other Cancer builds because Memento has 20% spell damage increase and some raw spell damage. This build is worth separating from the other Cancer builds.
     
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    Oh no guys, looks like we have to remove Cancer again before God forbid someone gets offended again.
     
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    Oof just realized a lot of these builds may get higher dps than I thought, will update them soon:tm:
     
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    RIP MORPH DIVZER
    Needed another 2 sp just to make it work, assuming you get all perfect accessories :/

    Some Divzer builds actually got stronger after the 1.17.9 item update, with an increase of about 400 bombs.

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    Noteworthy builds:
    https://wynndata.tk/s/7Z9i4H
    https://wynndata.tk/s/j2zxRi
    Not going to describe these builds too much, but these builds have higher damage than my Godly build. However, they suffer from a too low mr. At least the first one doesn't require any RNG other than Divzer and the second one needs a godly Memento.
     
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