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Archer/Hunter Help Hive Bow War Build

Discussion in 'Class Builds' started by Pifg, Sep 2, 2018.

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  1. Pifg

    Pifg aaaaaaaaaaaa

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    Antra Malding since 2014 HERO

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    Antra Malding since 2014 HERO

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    I was judging the 12/4 mana regen, which I HAVE tested myself.

    I had a 9/4 mana regen archer (with 94 int), and I felt I had too much mana.

    If you don't mindlessly mash Left and Right click, then you probably won't get through the 14 mana you'll get within 4 seconds when you consider that you also have to melee in order to get your Powder Special.
     
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    Antra Malding since 2014 HERO

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    Well it is a war build, bomb and shield spam
     
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    from my experience, 12/4 mana is slightly overkill, but you can still fully take advantage of the mana. With that much mana, you can guarantee that you're constantly airborne and still spam multiple bombs and shield. You might not need to do this, but it's not like the extra mama is going to waste. (and its fun).

    also, with your builds, you get 6-7/4 mr and ~80 int. That's gonna be enough to use all your spells normally, but you're pretty much just hitting 0 mana every cycle. If you miscast a single spell, you're a little screwed, especially if you're in a tight situation. Extra mana is "overkill" but it also gives room for error.
     
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    Note that you also have to take time out of your cycle to melee.

    If you "mindlessly" cast spells to try to use your mana as efficiently as possible, you'll probably end up with curse almost never active.

    I would much rather multiply my damage by ~2 than cast 1 or 2 extra spells (which are already slightly weaker).
     
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    Goden Everlasting Excellency HERO

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    Fun fact: this is a war build and curse is arguably the second worst special in wars except for niche situations like bosses.

    worse obviously is wind prison lmfao
     
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    fuq forgot it was wars

    :shrug:

    still though, 12/4 is a bit too overkill if you ask me (i'll admit mine is slightly low on mana, but at best i'd probably go with 10/4)
     
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    Goden Everlasting Excellency HERO

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    I personally have found that with hotkeys or just extreme mouse management 12/4 is very usable to it's maximum potential, but I also don't usually like mr that high either (my build rn is a freedom build with 8/4 mana, I just carry 3 mana pots to tank through the stronger mobs and the rest is a breeze)
     
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    Yeah, with really good control with your mouse, you can use 12/4 mana to its max potential, but at that point you may as well just switch to spell cycles



    well, actually, you COULD change the powder special to courage on the first build and retain 11k bombs

    then, you can even switch up the build a little bit and end up with this https://wynndata.tk/s/Ux3zWO (switch out prism/clockwork ring with MPC for more mana https://wynndata.tk/s/WjaHNd)
     
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