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I Am Sick And Tired Of This (csst Rant Incoming)

Discussion in 'Wynncraft' started by DragonEngineer, Apr 25, 2018.

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  1. BuffAirSpear

    BuffAirSpear Avos Air Assassin HERO

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    yeah i can see why you would think that but you ll just have to trust me when i say that we all hate csst ^^ (including salted iirc) its literally just that we arent able to do everything at the same time (though i agree that it should have gotten fixed months ago). I actually had hopes that the CT would fix it with the dnd update (wasnt on the team back then ;D)
     
  2. WynnChairman

    WynnChairman Chairman of Wynn HERO

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    hi sick and tired of this
     
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  3. At World's End

    At World's End Infamous Adventurer HERO

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    You all don't see the issue here. The issue is some idiot came up with the idea of dungeon bombs. I don't need to explain.
     
  4. Lex!

    Lex! :] CT Manager Ability Designer QA GM

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    The issue is really a mixture of CSST and Dungeon Bombs. While you're right that Dungeon Bombs allow the abuse of CSST, Dungeon Bombs would be perfectly fine if CSST wasn't so easy to rush.
     
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  5. Derpy_Watermelon

    Derpy_Watermelon Professional at Getting Lost VIP+

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    People get annoyed over the smallest stuff...

    I honestly don't get why people get so aggravated over "wall huggers". Yes, they're "freeloading", but it's not like they're setting you back. And honestly, it's probably pretty inefficient for everyone to go and contribute. Communication is pretty hard, and people are gonna get left behind if everyone runs off collecting tokens (not to mention its almost certain suicide for lvl 70s in XP gear).

    Yes, it's broken, everyone already knows that, so bemoaning and complaining won't help. Despite being an MMO, Wynncraft is still based on personal progress. If you think CSST is cheap and using it to get 100 is boring, then don't use it and experience the game for yourself. Other people might just want lvl 100 for a build and don't have tons of spare time, so they find a way to get to 100 the easiest: CSST. It's a game, and people get different things out of it, so people have different preferences on how to play.

    So, theres no reason to look down on those who "freeload and abuse CSST" just for an easy lvl 100. It's just gonna make people hate each other more. (I think everyone knows this know, but people get triggered very easily on the internet).

    tl;dr If you don't like it, don't use it, it'll probably be patched sometime. There's no need to hate on it, people can get enjoyment our of different ways of playing the game.
     
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  6. WynnChairman

    WynnChairman Chairman of Wynn HERO

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    wat
    where
     
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  7. coolname2034

    coolname2034 Formerly known as NPCGrian HERO

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    I always do all quests, CSST is for things like 90-95, 98-100, or 100-101. Tbh until There’s enough quests for all levels ima keep doing csst
     
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  8. funnysillyman

    funnysillyman lil uzi fan GM

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    We had priorities. Now those are out the way, we might be able to start work on this "Fix". But as always there are hiccups, which extend the time for things to take place.
     
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  9. Stormarend

    Stormarend The classes DO NOT correspond with the elements.

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    Level 70s shouldn't even be in csst. People get aggravated because they're making it harder for the rest of the players. Also these kinds of players often do slow you down, due to tripwires and whatnot.
     
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  10. e!

    e! ⁣e HERO

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    There should be a new mob AI made for dungeon mobs, which locks onto players at random no matter the distance from them.


    Maybe mobs's spawnrate and/or stats should be boosted depending on how many players there is in one dungeon room.
     
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  11. Craic

    Craic Yeet

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    How should they fix it? How long do you think it would take to ‘fix’? How would you make a dungeon that’s fun AND unabusable? I think it’s taking longer because when they do change it, it may cause controversy.
     
  12. WynnChairman

    WynnChairman Chairman of Wynn HERO

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    cough literally every other dungeon
    and if you say theyre not fun neither is the csst rly
     
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  13. General Skien

    General Skien is the best character in Wynncraft. HERO

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    I see why people hate CSST, and I understand that people think its unfair to older players who spent a long time grinding for the leaderboards (I for one don't see why this matters but I also suck on the leaderboard so what do I know), but CSST has helped business for Wynncraft as well as getting more players to continue through to level 100 and later 101.

    I for one like that there is a dungeon that isn't really complex for high levels (FF and Corrupted Underworld Crypt are the only ones that are high enough leveled but NO ONE will ever grind those things), and for a nerf, they shouldn't make is take 10 hours like some *COUGH* Fallen Factory *COUGH*. Balance is hard to do, but all too often recently I have been seeing these kinds of posts pop up on all sorts of games, and all too often people don't think about what it will do to the game's future, or what should actually be done.

    So instead of screaming "NERF CSST!!", why not say what could be done to make it still a fun dungeon, but not be this easy.

    NOTE: People have suggested ideas, but the vast majority are just saying "NERF IT NOW".

    Oh also to follow my own advice:

    • Adding a PARCORE STAGE in between the arrow passage (the one where you here the words "MOVE" for seven hours), which could halt a dungeon run's progress
    • MORE LORE! Hashr is literally just telling you "you put some weird shiz in my dungeon and now I'm gona CTRL + V everything I said in Sand-Swept Tombs!!".
    • DELETE THE FALLING FLOOR. Some people may be confused on this, but the reason why is that it really serves no purpose other than add 1.5 seconds to the dungeon run and occasionally glitching and not reappearing. In place of this another parkour or unique event (such as a puzzle where you must blow open a heavy door that blocks your path using items hidden in a maze around the room, think of something here though cause this idea probably sucks)
    • REMEMBER SST! This last point would be a killer for the team, but if you change CSST, you need to also change SST so that they aren't totally different dungeons (granted there can be variation such as what was done in Corrupted Underworld Crypt with the boss, but any more than that and you could simply make a whole new dungeon).
    • Above all don't completely re-work. For people who like CSST, it may come as an outrage to see the dungeon go from 'a mysterious tomb that has corruption seep into it', to 'Hashr is just some evil old/dead person who wants to kill all the Wall Huggers and also is bright pink and has a weak floor in his boss room'. The lore from SST's dungeon quest was good, but if a change were to be made in the future then it couldn't completely shift the dungeons story into the second description from above.

    Please don't hate me, but after seeing so many rants like this on another game I play, I'm kind of tired of seeing these things.
     
  14. Thunder

    Thunder Chief Thunder HERO

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    PARKOUR*
    Also, no.
     
  15. HoboMaggot

    HoboMaggot . ę̸͚̳̙̳̠͖̳̓̇̄̓͂̂̆ VIP+

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    I think you also mean ping. As a lot of people are there in one place throwing spells and cosmetics around.
     
  16. Glenncrafter

    Glenncrafter A Collector & Proud Veteran CHAMPION

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    Yes that too
    But after a while my mc starts using over 100% of the memory so it starts freezing :/
     
  17. yellowscreen

    yellowscreen Certified Lurker

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    Please tell me how casting arrow bomb instead of arrow storm somehow makes it harder.
    I mean, still better than nothing
     
  18. DutchSpruceRun

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    This is very annoying, I'm also against it, but theres an even worse thing. Some players kill 50% of the mobs and don't even bother to take the tokens, others can't even grab them! I'm also kinda against CSST because it completely ruins the MMORPG experience, since you can just do nothing and get to lvl.100. It think they should make it so dxp bombs don't effect dungeons, just like quests.
     
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  19. Slime1480

    Slime1480 Slime Shady CHAMPION

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    Atleast 10 mages at the wall and just 1 could do 3 clicks to heal me (after a long time).
    3 clicks.
    3 fucking clicks.
    How lazy u are goddamn
     
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  20. Glitch496

    Glitch496 Game Master HERO GM

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    And this is why I stick to grinding at the demon cave
     
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