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Why I Think Wynncraft Is A Better Mmorpg Than Other Games

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  1. Electrolysis

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    So I’ve played various MMOs throughout my life, and so far Wynncraft is the one I’ve enjoyed the most and played for the longest. You might be wondering how an MMO made in Minecraft could possibly be better than a ‘real’ MMO (though I consider Wynn as more of a real MMO than the other games, but I’ll get into that later). I wondered about that too, and I realized that Wynn is designed differently and actually focuses on aspects that other MMOs should, but don’t. Of course, Wynncraft still has its own flaws which I could go on and on about, but that’s a whole different story and overall, Wynncraft still does a better job than other MMOs.

    In the other MMOs I’ve played, grinding is the often the most significant, if not the only part of their gameplay. Their players spend loooooong periods of time (days, weeks, or even longer) grinding. While their worlds are sometimes large, they are lazily done and barren with very little content. The quests are lame and uninteresting, being ignored by the players as a result. There is simply no meaningful content outside of the grinding(which isn’t exactly meaningful either). Players usually rush the endgame by grinding really hard, only to continue the grind at the endgame as it is just more grind with nothing better to do. Eventually, they either get tired of the game or run out of things to grind for. Since so many MMOs are like this, it has become the standard and is the reason my friends avoid such games. It took over a year for me to convince them that Wynn was different from the others.

    Wynncraft, however, doesn’t focus on grinding. Instead, it focuses on adventure, creativity, and having an overall enjoyable and immersive experience, as an MMO should. Most quests are very well designed, and those that aren’t will eventually be reworked into better ones. They have interesting lore, dialogue, and mechanics that the quests of other games do not have, so doing them feels like an adventure, not like a chore. While they’re at it, they give enough experience so that there’s little grind between levels, and that little bit of grinding is fine because grinding is fun in small amounts. The game also encourages exploration and adventuring by rewarding those who do so through discoveries, boss altars, loot chests, and a world filled with content almost everywhere. There is a large amount of content at every stage of the game, and the world actually seems like a world. All of this makes the player’s journey meaningful and provides enjoyment, which excessive grinding doesn’t.

    Wynncraft also promotes creativity and diversity with its item and class build system, allowing a massive number of combinations and encouraging players to create their own unique, personalized build to suit their playstyle. Unlike other games where there is only one or two optimal ways of building your character, Wynncraft’s system doesn’t have one perfect build better than the others as each build will have its own up and downsides. In a way, it’s like having additional classes within each class as the playstyles between builds can vary greatly. It ends up fixing major issues in other systems as well, such as monotony, elitism, and boredom. This system is better because it rewards creative thinking and creates diversity among the players as even two people with the same class may fight in completely different ways, all while giving players more things to do.

    The content team of Wynncraft is very dedicated to developing this game and ensuring everything in it is of the highest quality by taking the game’s mechanics to their full advantage and reworking things that are flawed or not up to the standards. Meanwhile, there are other companies with full-fledged game engines that decide to half-ass everything and do a lazy job creating their content. For example, Kingdom of Sand’s mansion heist is a higher quality stealth heist than Payday 2’s stealth heists (that’s not an MMO but still), and Payday 2 is supposed to be a game based on heisting with stealth as one of its main mechanics.

    The community here is also one of the best I’ve seen in the games I’ve played. This has been the only game I’ve played where random people who I encounter say hi to me. People are generally helpful, and toxicity is less common than in other communities. I actually avoided the community for like a year when I first returned to the game, and I sure do regret that. While this is not necessarily related to the game’s design itself, it is yet another thing that Wynn has that is better than other games.

    The creators of other MMOs have a lot to learn from Wynncraft and should be ashamed that they’re being outdone by one made in Minecraft by volunteers. MMOs should focus on adventure and unique content, not grinding for more grind, and that is what makes Wynncraft more of a real MMO than other games.

    So yeah, thanks for making this game what it is, whether you’re a moderator, CT, admin, or another player, because the game would not have been possible without you guys. It’s brought me many hours of enjoyment and has filled a void in my life as I have been searching a good MMO for a long time.

    TL;DR Wynn is better than other MMOs because it focuses on things an MMO should focus on instead of grinding for more grind.

    Also feel free to send this to people to try to convince them to play this game

    EDIT: It seems a few of you guys are accusing me of being biased. You need to realize that there’s no reason for me to be biased. I have nothing to gain from posting this. This post does not state that Wynncraft is absolutely perfect and that no game will ever be better. I made this thread because I’d been thinking about the topic for a while and wanted to share my thoughts and praise this game and its creators for doing things differently and taking a step in the right direction.

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  2. highbread

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    dont forget about its flawless and amazing economy
     
  3. Wynntastic

    Wynntastic Well-Known Adventurer

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    I don't think you've ever touched FFXIV
     
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  4. Electrolysis

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    No, I haven’t, what’s it like?
     
  5. yellowscreen

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    >Poor people lose to rich people because poor people don't have money to buy big strong items
    >Only way to get lots of money is to grind and lootrun, while keeping a shop up, for months
    >Or getting lucky
    Yeah great economy.
     
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    uh sure yeah if you say so
     
  7. Wynntastic

    Wynntastic Well-Known Adventurer

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    Minecraft:
    Multiple Class system (More than only 4 classes)
    Daily dungeon raids
    Character creation customization (6 Races, Dye-able equipment, Vanity, etc.)
    Multiple Expansions
    Large Map
    Main Story Quests
    Player Housing
    Raid Party Team Composition ( Team Comps; DPS/Tank/Support/etc.)
    Player skill rotations (no braindead skill spamming)
    There's a lot more, but I can't remember off the top of my head.
     
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    That was obviusly sarcasm
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    Also he's talking about mostly about the story and gameplay aspect
     
  9. Wynntastic

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    Yeah, that's what I'm talking about too. All of those are part of the gameplay.
     
  10. yellowscreen

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    What are you talking about i said a great economy i was pointing out what make it so great:
    The fact you can get richer than someone who worked for months to get in-game money in an instant by getting lucky.
    No unfair level of RNG there, i mean it's complitely fair to get stacks of LE in an instant without doing any work.
     
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    Well, i mean he probably meant the execution of the quests,

    n o
     
  12. Wynntastic

    Wynntastic Well-Known Adventurer

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    Yeah, I understand that part. Most of the MMORPGs I've played (Runescape, Maplestory, Tera, etc.) had a ton of "Kill X amount of mobs" quests as well. A ton of the quests in Wynncraft are designed to have you explore new areas and also includes puzzles, so that's great too.
     
  13. i eat bees

    i eat bees i eat bees HERO

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    Someone tell this guy about Warframe or Black Desert Online

    In my opinion Wynncraft is a decent MMORPG at best.
    The main reason it's so unique is that it was made inside of Minecraft with little to no budget and a team of volunteers, Plus it's not pay-to-win like basically any other RPG out there (I know EULA doesn't really allow it to be anyways, But with the kind of management it currently has I doubt Wynn would've been pay-to-win even if they could, It's been pretty clear that unlike what happens in a lot of other games the owners actually care about the game first, And profits later in WC's case), Anyhow Wynncraft still managed to be better than most MMORPGs out there, Which is a thing I can definetly respect.
    But if Wynncraft was a game of it's own and not inside of Minecraft, I can absolutely gurantee it would die almost instantly, Either because people would easily lose interest in it, Find better games, Or it simply won't make enough profit, In addition to that they'll need to actually hire graphic designers and coders instead of using their current volunteer Content Team.
     
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  15. Wynntastic

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    Both of these are grindy af from my experience
     
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    such much cool and good post
     
  17. T-Flex

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    How many RPGs have you actually played?
    Cause from the things you listed, it doesn't seem like a lot, and it does smell like you are being biased, and you are also mistaking RPGs with MMOs. Those 2 things aren't the same. Call of Duty is an MMO and you can't compare it to Wynn by it's thematic.
    Wynn is decent, that is all. The reason you like it is because it's pretty. You essentially like the make-up of it.
    Wynn fails at true RPGs elements and no one can defend that.

    Don't get me wrong, I love Wynncraft, but not because of it's RPG elements, cause atm, those are extremely poor, and so far, Wynncraft is closer to a tell-tell game than an RPG.
     
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    Some RPGs I’ve played are TERA, Borderlands 2, Spiral Knights, Realm of the Mad God, Blade and Soul, maplestory and some other obscure ones. BL2 is the only non-MMO one I remember playing and the only one that was designed well in most aspects, though I’ve heard the same for other other single player RPGs.

    I do agree several of Wynncraft’s RPG aspects are not very good right now, but it makes up for it by actually doing things that other games don’t.
     
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    I like the enthusiasm about wynn!
    not much else sorry :sob:
     
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