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SPOILER Sandstorm Vandals Leader Randall

Discussion in 'Wynncraft' started by Arkade, Dec 31, 2017.

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What to do with him?

  1. Nerf his HP!

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  2. Nothing! I like bosses which take 10 min to take out!

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  1. Arkade

    Arkade Who am I? CHAMPION

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    Why did you put 60 LvL-like boss in 30-35 LvL area?
    What is the point of ~70K health ;-;
    Among the fact that the rest of his gang also deals huge amount of dmg this is pure nightmare until you glitch him as I guess most people do. His multihit deals around 600-900 dmg so it basicly 1 hits someone in rare-legendary equipment at my level, gj.
    Pic of that beast
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    Btw even his loot is garbage >:v
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  2. China

    China you used to call me on ur banana VIP+

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    randall rhymes with vandal
     
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    Tekenen Professional Loser VIP+

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    And you also seem to be able to kill it, so it's not that hard.
     
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  4. Arkade

    Arkade Who am I? CHAMPION

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    Yes I did but this is how.
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    EDIT: Also I said 60 lvl-like not that he is 60 lvl. For example Yahya Final Form is 9001 lvl but he is as hard as rats in ragni.
     
  5. Lex!

    Lex! :] CT Manager Ability Designer QA GM

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    Nice rigged poll!
    But yeah, definitely has too much health. Unless he has some sort of massive elemental weakness, I'd say nerfing his health is a good idea.
     
  6. RandomAdventurer

    RandomAdventurer Well-Known Adventurer VIP+

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    Randall is pretty strong for his level, but i don't think he needs to be nerfed. Here is why:
    1. He is an 100% optional boss that doesn't need to be killed in any quest, thus if you think is too hard you can just avoid him.
    2. Though he is tough, you can just trap him in one of the many buildings in the Sandstrom Vandal camp. There are a plethera of safe spots, so you should be able to outsmart the AI. Unlike most bosses in Wynncraft, you can't always just brute force your way thru him, which i think is something positive
    3. He posses a challenge for anyone who wants to take on a tough enemy at an early level. Most bosses have a level reqirement slapped on them because they're part of a quest, Randall doesn't and can therefore be fought at a very early level, making him extremely hard and rewarding to defeat. Making him weaker would take away part of the reason some people fight him.
    4. He really isn't that hard if you have good gear and uses reason 2 to your advantage

    Nice biased poll
     
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  7. (Meric)

    (Meric) No longer edgy

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    Something positive?
    1. So? That doesnt matter that his level is totalyl wrong for his hp count, either boost his level without changing stats or nerf hp
    2. So instead of fighting a boss normally at a higher level you should instead exploit the environment and sit still on a pillar and spam attacks, thats fun
    3. Wha..? It doesnt matter you can fight him, his level and loot are wrong for his stats. He has lowl evel high hp, and shit loot, there is no incentive to fight him
    4, Yes good gear so you can hide in a pillar and spam
     
  8. RandomAdventurer

    RandomAdventurer Well-Known Adventurer VIP+

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    1. Ok yeah sure change the lvl number on his name tag. Calling him a lvl 39 mob is slightly misleading
    2. Didn't say it was fun, but i don't get how you think kiting and spam clicking on a tough mob is any better (most of Wynncrafts bosses)
    3. Then don't fight him? His loot could maybe use a buff, and as i said changing his lvl tag seems like a good idea, so we can at least agree on that
    4. Yup
     
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    (Meric) No longer edgy

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    2. Yeah wynn bosses aren't fun, I just feel that safespotting is a bit less fun, idk theres a bigger issue towards the bosses in general but yeah I agree with most of your statements
     
  10. Arkade

    Arkade Who am I? CHAMPION

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    1. And 3. Changing his lvl to higher one (for example 60 which he should have) would make his drop of 36-40 weird since 80 lvl mobs dont drop 12 lvl stuff.
    Imo nerfing hp to 20-30k and taking pillars and buildings out would be a good boss fight.
     
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    RandomAdventurer Well-Known Adventurer VIP+

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    I agree with your first point but
    what??? no
    sure it might make the bossfight a little harder (not better considering the alternative) but you would be removing the reason why the sandstorm vandal camp is fun, the buildings and all the hidden signs around the buildings.

    (also how the hell is he on the level of a level 60 boss???)
     
  12. Arkade

    Arkade Who am I? CHAMPION

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    Im pretty sure that he has more HP than Tribal Zombie Chief which is around 55 lvl. His dmg is also propably close to Chiefs dmg. The only idea that comes to my mind is to make a boss altar in the camp, so you would have to throw all members name tags in the hopper to procced.
     
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    "propably" maybe if you don't factor in the many other mobs that spawn at the alter.
    Also what are you even talking about now? i thought this was about nerfing him, not making the camp into a boss alter. If that's what you want, then make a post about that in the general suggestions part of the forum.
     
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    Arkade Who am I? CHAMPION

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    just do something about this poorly designed
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    I like the idea of having optional bosses here and there that require multiple people to beat, but his loot really needs to be buffed for such an OP boss.
     
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    He's a joke upon a joke upon a joke.

    Did you find the sandcastle above their base, property of Randall Inskile?

    Reverse Inskile, and you get Eliksni, the name of a species of alien from Destiny, more commonly known as The Fallen. In the earlier betas of Destiny, these were pretty much all there was to fight, Dregs, Vandals, Shanks(I think) and Fallen Walkers. In one corner of the map, there was an "Elite" Vandal. Elites usually had more health and dropped more loot, but this Vandal was ridiculously endurant for absolutely no reason at all. He became known collectively among the community as Randal the Vandal.

    Later, in a raid involving the Fallen and some kind of parasitic cybernetic implant, you meet a Fallen Vandal miniboss called "Rahn'dell, the Perfected".

    Hence, Randall the leader of the Sandstorm Vandals.

    If I got these details wrong, it's cause I only ever saw my older brother play Destiny rather than having done so myself.

    He has 72000 health, which is 20 times the amount he should have, but his damage is only tough-strength and his Multihits does at best 165% damage. 165% of his 100-130 damage is 165-215. You also forgot to mention he drops a piece of the Bandit's Set, the locket. And, look at the actual stats on Randall's Leg Plating. That +15 defense WITHOUT A STAR, lenient requirement, and high health. Then, look at Vandalizer with its huge life steal for the level. Combining those will make you a massive tank, just like Randall.

    He also mentions, in the forge room, that making this invincible armour is part of his grand plan to pull a heist on the Almuj Bank; he plans to make armour so powerful that they can pretty much just walk right in and the Emerald Golems couldn't do anything to them.

    I am absolutely flabbergasted that it took this long for someone to comment on this!
     
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    Vandalizer just looks like a copy of Abolition for me, but it has less damage and powder slots and more life steal.
     
  18. Tantibus

    Tantibus Chairman of the Wynnviet Union, God of Dern CT Manager HERO GM CMD

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    Well with like 2000+ items some of them are bound to be a bit similar.
     
  19. Arkade

    Arkade Who am I? CHAMPION

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    Okkk but why 72k hp? What is the point of such a long battle with loot that you will be using for 5 lvls at max?
    I get the idea of strong boss for multiple people but this ? This just isn't worth time. 30K or even lower would be perfectly fine.
    You could just create a really tanky 72K hp mob that doesn't attack player and just stands in place until it dies and drops decent items.
    (you can just glitch Randal to make him a statue in the serwers thingy)
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    Also I haven't thought it was so deep in terms of easter eggs :o
     
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