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In the News Judea And Samaria Debate Thread

Discussion in 'Nemract's Bar' started by Yuno F Gasai, Nov 12, 2017.

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  1. Yuno F Gasai

    Yuno F Gasai Forum God, FW

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    A lot of Palestinians don't want to "play the game" and stay as refugees instead of becoming citizens or residents.
    Everyone in East Jerusalem are considered residents (they can vote for the municipality but not the parliament and the majority of them don't vote cause if they do it'll be like them accepting their status
     
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    Zahr You begrudgingly don the COMICAL HAT. VIP+

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    If Israel stopped sending settlers into palestinian territory it would be a step foward
     
  3. Dr Zed

    Dr Zed Famous Adventurer

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    Well, I don’t know what they should do then. This could go on even after my life time.
     
  4. Yuno F Gasai

    Yuno F Gasai Forum God, FW

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    Israel isn't sending anyone anywhere, that is a private initiative by citizens that go settle in area C which is under Israeli rule and law
     
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    Zahr You begrudgingly don the COMICAL HAT. VIP+

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  6. Yuno F Gasai

    Yuno F Gasai Forum God, FW

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    I really hoped this would be a more heated debate
     
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    Dr Zed Famous Adventurer

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    Most people don’t really know much about it, which is a little bit of a shame. Not that I’m much better though.
     
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    coolname2034 Formerly known as NPCGrian HERO

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    Oh no trump did a thing
     
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    Zahr You begrudgingly don the COMICAL HAT. VIP+

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    Jerusalem should be a free UN territory imo, giving an area praised by three religions (two of which are the largest ones) to somebody is naturally gonna cause tensions.
     
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    Rawb Disciple of Bak'al

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    Basically, an international zone like original British Mandate intended.
     
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    Rawb Disciple of Bak'al

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    actually, im an idiot since ther was a more "recent" UN ruling that made it an international zone which I believe is mebtioned by Yuno
     
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    It's such a complicated and touchy subject it's very difficult to find people who are:
    1. able to talk about it
    2. willing to talk about it
     
  13. Yuno F Gasai

    Yuno F Gasai Forum God, FW

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    Actually the only thing he did is recognize East Jerusalem as Israeli territory.
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    West Jerusalem is recognized as Israeli territory (captured in '48)
    East Jerusalem was under Jordan's occupation until '67
     
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    Okay? My comment still stands.
     
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    Yuno F Gasai Forum God, FW

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    thing is that there is a difference between an international city and a UN city, both are problematic in their own way.
    the UN is extremely biased against Israel
    and if you make it an international city not under UN control then how do you choose who runs it?
     
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    Someone who is not biased, i'm sure he exists.
     
  17. Yuno F Gasai

    Yuno F Gasai Forum God, FW

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    maybe there is but none of the sides will agree that he is
     
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    Tbh the middle east was way better when the Ottomans were around.
     
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    Yuno F Gasai Forum God, FW

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    it was just as bad then only the palestiains and jews didn't have a national movement then
     
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    I dont recall people stabbing and blowing up each other back then doe
     
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