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Guide Mythic Bows Compared To Substitutes

Discussion in 'Wynncraft' started by Snerp, Nov 8, 2017.

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cool thread?

  1. yee

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  1. Snerp

    Snerp Grand Terrainer Modeler HERO Builder

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    So, ive compared all the mythic bows to the most similar bow to it
    and presented it in the form of items (i guess?)

    The data is made from the highest for positive stats and lowest for negative stats.
    Eg. a bow has -20% Melee Damage to -30% Melee Damage, the 30% will be used


    stats are taken from wynndata

    I Havent calculated together the attack tiers yet
    so the damages might not be comparably right
    (except for ones that are the same attack tier)

    The data favours the mythic, saying whether using it is better or worse in each stats.

    I hope this shows some insight to whether some of the mythic bows are worth it, or a substitute is almost equal and just as viable :)
    Key:
    ■:Using The Mythic Will Make this Stat Worse
    ■: Using The Mythic will negate this stat (make it 0) (can kindof be ignored honestly)
    ■: Using The Mythic Will make this stat better

    Compared to Hellstrand

    +1 Attack Tier
    -130/280 Neutral damage
    +50/-20 Fire Damage
    +3 Level req
    +80 Def req

    -72% health regen
    -390/4s Life Steal
    -2/4 Mana Steal
    -13 Dexterity
    +17% soul point regen
    -20% spell damage
    +28% water damage
    -26% Thunder damage
    -26% Air defence
    +455 Health Regen
    +13 Defence
    +13% Thorns
    +3900 Health
    +13% Reflection
    +7% Melee Damage
    +11% Fire Damage
    +26% Fire Defence
    +13% Thunder Defence
    +13% Earth Defence
    Compared to Doubt

    +2 Attack Tier
    -395/510 Neutral Damage
    -90/260 Earth Damage
    +2 Level Req

    -13% Melee Damage
    +7% Spell Damage
    -12% Earth Defence
    -20% Earth Damage
    -10% Walk Speed
    +38% Thunder Damage
    +24% Air Damage
    +24% Water Damagee
    +10% Fire Damage
    +13% XP Bonus
    +26% Loot Bonus
    -17% Health Regen
    -259 Health Regen

    +3 Powder Slots
    Compared to Gales Force

    -1 Attack Tier
    -10/50 Neutral Damage
    +80/205 Air Damage
    +4 Level Req
    -20 Dex Req
    +50 Agi Req

    -20% Xp Bonus
    -7 Dexterity
    +7 Agility
    +52% Walk Speed
    -10% Soul Point Regen
    -13% Reflection
    -26% Air Damage
    +35% Earth Damage
    -26% Air Defence
    -13% Thunder Defence
    -1050 Health
    +13% Spell Damage
    +13% Melee Damage
    Compared to Awakening

    +40/0 Fire Damage
    +20/-15 Water Damage
    +30/0 Air Damage
    -30/+70 Thunder Damage
    +60/35 Earth Damage

    +2/4 Mana Regen
    -8 Strength
    -8 Dexterity
    -8 Intelligence
    -8 Agility
    -8 Defence
    +8% Walk Speed
    +780 Health
    +169 Spell Damage
    +104 Melee Damage
    +3% Earth Damage
    +3% Thunder Damage
    +3% Water Damage
    +3% Air Damage
    +3% Fire Damage

    +4 Powder Slots
    Compared to Corrupted Witherheads Bow
    +5/15 Neutral Damage
    +9/70 Thunder Damage
    +5 Dex Req
    -10 Agi Req

    -4 Dexterity
    +11% XP Bonus
    +11% Fire Damage
    +11% Water Damage
    +4% Thunder Damage
    -14% Air Damage
    -20% Spell Damage
    +10% Soul Point Regen
    +20% Walk Speed
    Compared to Torrential Tide

    -3 Attack Tier
    +299/310 Neutral Damage
    +100/-10
    +15 Str Req
    +60 Int Req

    -4/4 Mana Steal
    +4/4 Mana Regen
    +2 Intelligence
    +14% Water Damage
    -520 Spell Damage
    +195 Health Regen
    +11% Thunder Damage
    -3 Dexterity
    +28% Exploding
    +350 Health
    +31% Melee Damage
    +70% Fire Damage

    +2 Powder Slots
     
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  2. NotAFish

    NotAFish An evolved jungle slime Discord Moderator CHAMPION

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    Basically comparing mythics to poor mans mythics
     
  3. Johnny Mcgeez

    Johnny Mcgeez zzzzzzzzzz CHAMPION

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    add meta builds or commonly used builds for each mythic / mythic sub
     
  4. Snerp

    Snerp Grand Terrainer Modeler HERO Builder

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    no.
     
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  5. Johnny Mcgeez

    Johnny Mcgeez zzzzzzzzzz CHAMPION

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    why 10 char
     
  6. Snerp

    Snerp Grand Terrainer Modeler HERO Builder

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    This is only about comparing the bows, not the builds people use in them
     
  7. Johnny Mcgeez

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    By adding builds you can get how much damage differ, no one actually used just the bow..
     
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  8. Mr_Philly

    Mr_Philly hi there HERO

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    hey that's pretty cool
     
  9. SilverMirror

    SilverMirror Retired IM HERO

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    the presentation of this comparison so misleading i dont even know how to begin

    but given that all these stats are probably gonna change when the rebalance comes (in 30 years) theres no point in doing so anyways ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
     
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  10. Snerp

    Snerp Grand Terrainer Modeler HERO Builder

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    Tell me how to improve it then

    And I'm gonna change the stats once they get changed
     
  11. NicBOMB

    NicBOMB Maker of Builds | Lurks on Forums | 1 Mythic Found CHAMPION

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    There are other replacement items that imo are better than the ones used. Also, using red, orange, and green doesn't fairly compare the stats. I suggest showing the stats of both items side by side and comparing them, rather than putting the stats together in one 'item stat list'. If you show both, or multiple in the case of other good replacements, of the bows' stats, that would help give readers more context. Having the legend to describe the coloring is all a wynncrafter can use when viewing this. It removes the readers past experience in game, and almost requires people to think completely different. Just side by side comparisons would be better. Follow that up with intelligent discussion about why chosing this replacement over the mythic or other replacement is the best choice for xyz and y the mythic or other replacements are not to be scoffed at either, but maybe used in different situations.
     
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  12. Mettymagic

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    Just show the stats side-by-side; make a table or something
     
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    NicBOMB Maker of Builds | Lurks on Forums | 1 Mythic Found CHAMPION

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    The choice of topic for this thread was good (comparing Mythics to lower rarity replacement items), but the execution was sub-par so I voted nee. Might change if the thread is improved.
     
  14. Altakar

    Altakar former 1000+ day counter moth Item Team

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    Uhm, Hellstrand is shit, try adding a replacement using Plague. Also Fog of Creation > Awakening.
     
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    NicBOMB Maker of Builds | Lurks on Forums | 1 Mythic Found CHAMPION

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    My thoughts exactly
     
  16. ghoti0315

    ghoti0315 buff assassin CHAMPION

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    do mythic spear compared to its substitutes plz
     
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