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Discussion in 'Questions' started by Syric, Aug 22, 2017.

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  1. Syric

    Syric Travelled Adventurer

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    Hello! I'm currently working through the 90-95 grindfest, and I've been running into a lot of people in the Freezing Heights. In my conversations with them, I've heard a lot of stuff I don't understand. This is my first playthrough, and I'm very, very nooby. I'd like to learn about how high levels do business.

    1. Are any of the following questions dumb and unanswerable?
    2. I've been trying to sell the Legendaries I get, but get zero interest. How can I sell them? Should I use the Item Buyers? How can I tell if a Legend I get is good enough to be worth selling?
    3. How should I go about designing and working towards an endgame build?
    4. How can I determine if my items are good or if they should be replaced? Should I reroll bad-id items I want to use, or buy replacements from other players?
    5. The guys at Detlas 1 are selling things for hundreds of stacks of le. This is insane; I've never had more than 20le at once. How are they so rich?
    6. What are some things endgame players do, besides sit in Detlas 1 and whine about how boring WC is when you do nothing? Everyday activities? Loot runs? Powder runs? Item farming?
    7. Could someone explain some of the slang? It took me forever to get 'csst' and 'ws'.
    8. How should I be leveling? I'm currently using a Wybel bow to farm the Freezing Heights for xp.
    9. Anything else really important I should know about being a pro Wynncrafter?

    Thanks very much for any responses! Be careful not to assume I know anything.
     
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    Chigo_ wtf is a chigo QA

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    heh lol bull shit.
    because they don't get scammed.
     
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  3. Syric

    Syric Travelled Adventurer

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    I was just on there and they were selling something for about a hundred stacks. I think it was a max ws Stratiformis.

    Also, scammed? What? I have literally bought one thing from another player- a Return to Ether for 2le. It makes my xp farming go a bit faster.
     
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    Chigo_ wtf is a chigo QA

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    yeah sure thats what they tell you.
    then where tf is your money going if you aint buying shit and getting scammed while buying it.
     
  5. 7Red_Dragon7

    7Red_Dragon7 Try hard HERO

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    stop being rude but i agree where is this guys money considering you get around 1 stack of le per playthrough
     
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    Locky1110 Famous Adventurer

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    some legends people don't want
    well i dunno how to decide if its worth selling, but i mean you can look through the trade market to see if anyone is buying your items
    If you ever pick up a mythic, its definitely worth selling.
    ask other people for help in the class build section and use wynndata.tk
    reroll bad items
    buying replacements is unnecessary and expensive
    only buy replacements if rerolling is too overpriced
    its because people in detlas 1 make money buy selling things people want
    the thing he was selling (you said this above) is a max ws stratiformis
    those things are EXTREMELY hard to get and a lot of people want it.
    item farming, loot runs, powder runs, starting new classes, memeing in detlas, etc.
    no you'll soon pick it up when ur in detlas or something
    csst is what you need to do
    hmm don't ask people for advice on how to be a pro.
    yes.
     
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    Chigo_ wtf is a chigo QA

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    I'm trying to help this guy but I have no clue where his money is.
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    cough cough no one cough cough.

    also its not worth 100 stacks I agree around 80 but not 100.
     
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    Stag2001 360 mlg hipster cat CHAMPION

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    No.

    Take a look around the market and in Detlas server 1 (WC1), see how much stuff sells for. You'll learn what people like a lot and what most people don't buy, sell stuff nobody wants to item buyer (ib).

    Take a look at the class builds section.

    For selling, follow the same advice as for selling your legendaries. Otherwise, here is a great website that uses the API to make an item database. Just write down the name of your item and you'll see all kinds of stats and also it's id ranges. With that you can determine what's good for you and what's not.

    The actual 100+ stacks of le items are EXTREMELY rare. Even max ws (walk speed) strati's don't always go for 100+ stacks, the first one ever gotten was paid 83 stacks for, by @Nyam . To make that much money you should go out questing, especially endgame quests earn you lots of money. You can also do loot runs or grinding to get items to sell. If you happen to be lucky enough to find a mythic, don't immediately sell it, ask multiple known trade marketers for its price before making a decision. There's also a thing that really rich (10+ stack) people do, like me, which is mythic reselling. Basically just buy a mythic and sell it to someone else for more.

    Basically all you listed. Also making builds, finding new ways to break the game (lol) or mythic hunting.

    I listed some in this post already. If you see anything you don't understand, just ask, usually you'll get an answer. If you don't feel free to PM me about it.

    Grinding frozen heights is good if you can't handle DCave, but you can try DCave (demon cave) too. It's near Rodoroc. There's also this broken thing called CSST, but it sounds like you already know about that.

    Don't be afraid to ask when you don't understand something.
     
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    Syric Travelled Adventurer

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    Into horses, mostly. Whenever I get to about 20 I take half of it and buy browns and then breed until I run out. I currently have a max Chestnut that I use and then one each minimum Chestnut, Black, and Brown.


    Best advice
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    Okay, sounds good. I have a couple Golden Feathers, should I get Uth Runes and craft keys? Or should I do it with a party, when someone Dungeon Bombs? Is it even possible solo? What about Fallen Factory? I haven't done that yet.
     
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    7Red_Dragon7 Try hard HERO

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    dungeon bombs
     
  11. SoulReaper11

    SoulReaper11 The meh guy VIP+

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    Tips don't horse breed unless u have loads of money. I find horses more expensive to breed than they are to sell (actually just whites) Horse breeding is a money sink not a gambling den so I highly recommend not trying to make money out of it as I assume you are doing.
    You could make keys yourself but dungeon and xp bombs are where the xp is rlly at.
    Csst is a fairly ez solo but bring a lot of pots if you plan to do a few in succession. You only need a few pots of doing csst with other plays during csst party. Not talking from experience but fallen fac isn't worth it as it takes about half an hour to finish where as csst can be done in a few mins without wall huggers. Only do fallen fax for the rewards and even gigabyte the necklace people want for builds is mostly outshined by LI dia fusion
    Sorry for wall of text.
     
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    Locky1110 Famous Adventurer

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    Join a party with somebody throwing dungeon bombs, usually there's a shout
    dont bother crafting keys, for the amount of times you have to do it, its not worth it.
    its not too hard to solo acctually, but being in a party is recommended.
    Don't bother with factory either, it takes 30 minutes to complete and it's not worth it unless you want rewards like Gigabyte
     
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    Syric Travelled Adventurer

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    Um, actually I just want a white. Not looking to sell at all. Should I put it off until I have more cash? I'm an Archer (and an Air one at that) so speed isn't really an issue.
     
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    SoulReaper11 The meh guy VIP+

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    If you want a white I would just recommend saving up the 80-90 le it costs to buy from another player. I have never owned a white but I asked on a thread a while back and someone told me that chestnuts are good enough and whites are more of a status symbol as the difference between 30/30 and 40/40 is negligible when counting in lag and delay also you could upgrade your chestnut to a 35/35 in the corrupt sewers if you really want more speed.
     
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    sdkgjnio hod-SOH-nee-uhs

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    Generally, if it has a lot of stars after the values, it's probably worth something - this means the stats are good. However, some stats are more important that others. Often the most valuable legendaries are the ones with the highest number of important stats. Vaward is a good example - all of the skill points are important, and the melee and spell damage are as well. A very good Vaward, should you be lucky enough to get one is worth a lot. Some legendaries are less valuable due to having little or no place in endgame builds, others only sell if they're very good. I'd recommend using price checking - on Discord or the thread in the Trade Market as a short-term solution, and selling all the ones i lower demand to the item buyer. People can usually tell if it's worth selling, and Wynncrafts trading is far from predictable. A good way to make money in a more predictable way is through powders, runes, dungeon keys and horse breeding. These things have market values, as any one of them functions similarly.

    Firstly level up, and finish the Qira Hive. This is an important decision, so keep the tokens, especially the master token, behind, ready to decide which item you want. You can only have one without doing the whole thing again, and a hive item is often a crucial part of a build. Next, save up a lot of LE. You'll want good stats on a lot of items, even if you're not using a mythic. You'll also want to think of what kind of a build you want. As an archer, tank builds are a bad idea in general (they're totally possible and can work, but they're not really good for the class). You might want a speed build, spell spam build, melee build, poison build, or any other build. Look into the playstyles of each of these, and see which you'd like to use.

    Wait until endgame. Whatever you're using should be good enough to get you there and serve you until you put together a build.

    A lot of them got lucky and found crazy valuable mythics, and others just are very good at grinding and trading. Richer players can make a big profit out of buying and reselling mythics, sometimes with rerolls, so it's often a case of players with a few stacks already can easily get much richer. Hundreds of stacks is, however, extremely rare. Most decent mythics sell for between 5 and 15 stacks. This is still a lot, but it's much more realistic. Generally, you should try to save as much of your LE as possible. Don't go to gear merchants unless you need something there for a build, and generally avoid spending. You should get about 90LE in a full playthrough just from quests. This is actually pretty useful - learn good grinding spots at each level, and it shouldn't take long to get another class to a high level, and you get a lot of rewards along the way. You can use your higher-level class to retrieve items and things, and this will save a lot of time, and you can avoid most boss fights.

    Any of those are valid and useful things to do. I'd recommend getting to level 100 before doing most of those, but something that is very rewarding is helping lower level players out, whether it's with knowledge or help or the ??? quest. You can also hangout on the forums and the Discord, or start afresh on a different class.

    Do the ??? quest. Find a party (they'd be happy to have you), look up the solutions and do the quest as soon as you can. The XP gear you get from is is so good you're wasting your time grinding without it, almost. Each piece of armour has a max of 25% XP and the full set gives a 50% set bonus, along with the necklace that also gives 25%. This is a max of 175%, and that's very useful. I'd be happy to help.
     
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