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SPOILER Weird Dialogue

Discussion in 'Wynncraft' started by jkbdscx, Jul 23, 2017.

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  1. jkbdscx

    jkbdscx Travelled Adventurer

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    • Mr. Caritat: HE WHO STARTED THE WAR SHALL RISE ONCE MORE. FROM THE REALM OF SHADOWS, DECEIPT AND PAIN.
    • Mr. Caritat: FOREVER TRAPPED, FROM WHENCE HE CAME. THROUGH THE WEAK POINT BETWEEN REALMS HE. WILL. RISE. AGAIN
    • Mr. Caritat: FROM THE SOILS OF DOOM THE SERVANT LAID
    • Mr. Caritat: BREAK THROUGH THE REALMS TO THE LAND OF TRADE.
    • Mr. Caritat: CORRUPT THE WORLD WITH SEEDS OF PAIN
    • Mr. Caritat: SO THAT HE...
    • Mr. Caritat: ...MAY RISE AGAIN!
    Ok I guess Sauron is in Wynncraft now, probably leading his orcs and trolls to attack the white city of llevigar until the heros of wynn show up to charge and save the day. Wouldn't it be funny if the great gavel war turned out to be a alliance between elves, dwarves, and men?
     
  2. captainganon

    captainganon God of k | Derpalope VIP+

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    You'd be hard-pressed to find a fantasy universe without something inspired by or similar to the Lord of the Rings.
     
  3. Mistrise Mystic

    Mistrise Mystic Surfing winds and chasing windfalls

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    Wellllll....
    It's more like dwarves, men and villagers
     
  4. ThomAnn100

    ThomAnn100 I have reached peak intelligence VIP+

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    There's elves too

    So is Siegfried that gondor leader who's a piece of shit?
     
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  5. ShadowMage1

    ShadowMage1 Seraph of Twilight

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    As many people have commented in the past, Siegfried is more like Professor Lockhart from Harry Potter.
     
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    ThomAnn100 I have reached peak intelligence VIP+

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    We weren't talking about Harry Potter though
     
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  7. sdkgjnio

    sdkgjnio hod-SOH-nee-uhs

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    I'm pretty sure orcs and trolls are not to do with the Eye in Wynncraft. The way NPCs talk about them is that they're just some of the magical creatures that inhabit Gavel, that happen to be brutal and savage. The 'Land of Trade' is unmistakably Gavel, so why would the Eye need to 'break through the realms' if its minions already were powerful in Gavel?

    I do however think they may have been created by Qira, who is preparing against the Eye. If you speak to Yansur after beating the Hive, he says 'You have already bested Qira, magical creator of Gavel'. This is clearly an exaggeration, but since the flashback in Taproot contained very few magical creatures and far more mundane animals, and Krolton is described as a 'creation' by Death, it's very possible that Qira created a lot of the mobs we see in Gavel. Perhaps she wanted them to defend Gavel against the forces of the Eye?

    @SPYROHAWK , as this is a theory...
     
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  8. MysticAdventurer

    MysticAdventurer Purple! CHAMPION

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    What war? the war of corruption? the War of Gerts? War of Orcs and Ogres?? no, probally the "War of realms" That's in wynnic on the main logo.
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    • Mr. Caritat: HE WHO STARTED THE WAR SHALL RISE ONCE MORE. FROM THE REALM OF SHADOWS, DECEIPT AND PAIN.
    • Mr. Caritat: FOREVER TRAPPED, FROM WHENCE HE CAME. THROUGH THE WEAK POINT BETWEEN REALMS HE. WILL. RISE. AGAIN
    • Mr. Caritat: FROM THE SOILS OF DOOM THE SERVANT LAID
    • Mr. Caritat: BREAK THROUGH THE REALMS TO THE LAND OF TRADE.
    • Mr. Caritat: CORRUPT THE WORLD WITH SEEDS OF PAIN
    • Mr. Caritat: SO THAT HE...
    • Mr. Caritat: ...MAY RISE AGAIN!
    Ok, so I'm gonna add some bold words now.
    • Mr. Caritat: HE WHO STARTED THE WAR (WAR OF REALMS) SHALL RISE ONCE MORE. FROM THE REALM OF SHADOWS, (REALM OF LIGHTS OPPOSITE, PROBABLY HOUSED IN DERN) DECEIPT AND PAIN.
    • Mr. Caritat: FOREVER TRAPPED (BY BOB???), FROM WHENCE HE CAME. THROUGH THE WEAK POINT BETWEEN REALMS (PERHAPS WEAK POINT IS REFERRING TO ORPHION) HE. WILL. RISE (GULP). AGAIN
    • Mr. Caritat: FROM THE SOILS OF DOOM THE SERVANT (WHO, COW?) LAID
    • Mr. Caritat: BREAK THROUGH THE REALMS TO THE LAND OF TRADE. (GAVEL, DUH)
    • Mr. Caritat: CORRUPT THE WORLD WITH SEEDS (MAYBE LIKE THAT SEEDS OF DARKNESS AND DESOLATION) OF PAIN
    • Mr. Caritat: SO THAT HE...
    • Mr. Caritat: ...MAY RISE (THIS IS SAYING THAT HE NEEDS TO PLANT THE "SEEDS" TO ACCESS GAVEL_ AGAIN!
    Does this seem like a good interpretation of the words??
     
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  9. Mistrise Mystic

    Mistrise Mystic Surfing winds and chasing windfalls

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    But they seem pretty uninterested in actually helping
     
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    General Skien is the best character in Wynncraft. HERO

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    I would like to point out some things from what i enterprated...

    • Mr. Caritat: HE WHO STARTED THE WAR SHALL RISE ONCE MORE. FROM THE REALM OF SHADOWS, DECEIPT AND PAIN.
    First one,realm of shadows has numerous meanings in wynncraft. whether it is Dern, that strange portal from Fantastic Voyage, or even something as simple as the reverse of The Realm of Light, something along the lines of The Realm of Shadows (xD he said that) most likely. The best bet for this is waiting for Dern to be released, as it will most likely clear up what this is.
    • Mr. Caritat: FOREVER TRAPPED, FROM WHENCE HE CAME. THROUGH THE WEAK POINT BETWEEN REALMS HE. WILL. RISE. AGAIN
    So now is where things are less speculation, weak point between the realms, is going to be ether the large room behind the giant door in Memory Paranoia, however it could also be the place from Taproot (you should know what I'm talking about). I would also like to point out that in the room from Memory Paranoia, their are a lot of giant hands being pulled out of the water, which may symbolize the rising.
    • Mr. Caritat: FROM THE SOILS OF DOOM THE SERVANT LAID
    The Servant is probably the strange creature from Taproot
    • Mr. Caritat: BREAK THROUGH THE REALMS TO THE LAND OF TRADE.
    Land of Trade is obviously Gavel (I mean it takes place in Gavel so yea it must be).
    • Mr. Caritat: CORRUPT THE WORLD WITH SEEDS OF PAIN
    Seeds are what was seen in the Realm of Light, the egg things that you had to destroy. However it could also mean the decay itself (may be to bit to be seeds tho)
    • Mr. Caritat: SO THAT HE...
    He has no real meaning at the moment, however the "...." at the end may signify another word that the player missed, possible a name.
    • Mr. Caritat: ...MAY RISE AGAIN!
    Again with the word Rise, however i suspect it has another meaning in this repeat.

    I probably am wrong, but at least i got to say my own share of speculation.

    EDIT: I now am almost completely sure Dern's realm is The Realm of Shadows
    Realm of Darkness was too bland anyways
     
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  11. jkbdscx

    jkbdscx Travelled Adventurer

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    The eye is probably the Eye of Sauron (Or what he'll be called in Wynn) that's his real form in the world and hes trying to get his power through the realms and then take control of the orcs and trolls (the lord of rings orcs and trolls are also inhabitants of the world that are brutal, Sauron just unites them). Maybe the dungeon guys corruption represent the men being corrupted by the nine rings?
     
  12. sdkgjnio

    sdkgjnio hod-SOH-nee-uhs

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    Who?
    I think you're trying too hard to connect everything to the Lord of the Rings. Wynn is inspired by Tolkien, but has its own story.
     
  13. jkbdscx

    jkbdscx Travelled Adventurer

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    Oh and there's Dwarves, Elves, Trolls, Orcs, Hobbits, Dragons, and the white royal city of llevigar :D
     
  14. Poiu429

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    Or it could just mean that Qira magically created the creatures in the Hive, and not other creatures of Gavel.
     
  15. Yuno F Gasai

    Yuno F Gasai Forum God, FW

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    I would say influenced not inspired.
    Just like in folklore that predates lotr
     
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    • Mr. Caritat: HE WHO STARTED THE WAR SHALL RISE ONCE MORE. FROM THE REALM OF SHADOWS, DECEIPT AND PAIN.
    It mentions "he who started the war" (War of Realms, presumably - what else could it be). It is speculated that the Eye started the war, although we don't actually know this. The Eye is obviously an influential force in the world of Wynncraft, as it's important enough to be on the logo. The Ancients (presumed to be from Dern, as other enderman mobs were "Dern Emigrants".) were running from this Eye. If it truly is the Eye that started the war of realms, then we know that the Eye is a "he."
    The realm of shadows could refer to a lot of things. We could take it at face value, and thus, "The Realm of Shadows." It could also be Dern, as it is described as a" 'far off dark land' by lead lore developer, Grian." However, from what we can see on the map, Dern could be quite small (or it could be another gateway realm to the real Dern), and/or could hold a portal to the aforementioned "Realm of Shadows."
    • Mr. Caritat: FOREVER TRAPPED, FROM WHENCE HE CAME. THROUGH THE WEAK POINT BETWEEN REALMS HE. WILL. RISE. AGAIN
    Mr. Caritat is talking about the same character here, as he uses the same pronoun (and it is a continuation of the last sentence). I'm going to assume Mr. Caritat is talking about the Eye and has been talking about the Eye. Firstly: How is the Eye trapped? It's possible that he was trapped by Bob. The Bob lore states that he went off to fight a monster that was "promoting the corruption," but he died. It is later revealed in the sealed letters that Bob faked his death (well, actually Nilrem did) and went off to fight/seal away a beast in a "land 'far' away." Bob mentions the war of the realms, as he says "Two immense forces are at war, with our plain of existence being the battleground." Sounds like the war of the realms to me.
    However, Mr. Caritat says that the Eye was trapped "from whence he came." I'm guessing he is referring to where the Eye came from - possibly the Realm of Shadows?
    There's also the weak point between realms. This could possibly be where the worm appeared 1,000 years ago, or it could be somewhere else (although the black spot seems most likely).
    • Mr. Caritat: FROM THE SOILS OF DOOM THE SERVANT LAID
    What/who is the servant? It is possible that it is the worm, or possibly the seeds of desolation and darkness, although Mr. Caritat mentions only 1 servant.
    • Mr. Caritat: BREAK THROUGH THE REALMS TO THE LAND OF TRADE.
    The land of trade is Gavel. This further supports the theory that the weak point between realms is the black spot where the worm again.
    • Mr. Caritat: CORRUPT THE WORLD WITH SEEDS OF PAIN
    I'm guessing the seeds he is referring to are the seeds of desolation and darkness, in the Realm of Light. However, Mr. Caritat says "corrupt the world" instead of "corrupt the Realm of Light (or something like that). But if he's talking about the seeds in the Realm of Light, how will there be corruption. In Gavel, there is Decay, which is not stated as corruption. So either a) Decay is a form of corruption (which makes sense), or b) he's talking about the corruption in Wynn. If he is talking about the former, then are the worm/Succoru parasites not causing the Decay? Are they all causing it?
    • Mr. Caritat: SO THAT HE...
    • Mr. Caritat: ...MAY RISE AGAIN!
    Right now, he's just repeating himself.
     
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    jkbdscx Travelled Adventurer

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    The corrupt dungeon bosses= Nazgul
     
  18. SoulReaper11

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    Wynn Ex have something to do with the eye
     
  19. Alexdacube

    Alexdacube The Cube is reborn CHAMPION

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    More like Siegfraud
     
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