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Why Dern Might Come Before Fruma

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  1. TwageTomato

    TwageTomato Coder | Like-Giver | Tomato | Musician CHAMPION

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    Look, I'm just going to spitball an idea. I have finals coming up soon so I don't have time to research or support my claims with facts. Sue me.

    Here's my idea: What if it was the actions of the Fruman monarchy that caused Dern to be the dark land it is now? We know that the Queen of Fruma has ridiculously powerful magic in that she can wipe the minds of all who leave her province, so the idea that she could lay a curse on an entire province is already proven.

    Today I propose that the final boss - the ultimate evil in all 3 provinces - is NOT in Dern, but in Fruma! This would mean that it would make sense for Fruma to come after Dern. But who is this evil final boss?

    My idea is that the Queen, cursed Dern to become the land of darkness that it is. Whether it was to make an example of the Dernic people, to obliterate a rival population, or whatever idk.

    However, that then brings up the question: who or what is the Eye? If it's the Queen of Fruma who is causing the darkness in Dern, then where does this mythical deity-like beast fit in? What is it that Bob went on a suicide mission to stop?

    I believe this "Eye" entity to be none other than the Queen herself. The Eye sees all, and so does the Fruman government. The Eye is extremely powerful, and so is the Queen. The Eye can cause darkness, and I believe that's what the Queen has done.

    Back to Bob - I believe he went to go fight the Queen and imprison her, not some monster, with his very essence.

    That's about all I have time to write. Maybe @SPYROHAWK and the other self-proclaimed Grand Theorists can flesh this out, disprove it, or do whatever they want with the idea. Just credit me.
     
  2. captainganon

    captainganon God of k | Derpalope VIP+

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    Suing you, because the very first idea is wrong. More than that, though, why would the Queen do that? She closed borders because she was afraid of the darkness and corruption happening outside of Fruma; why would that be, if she controlled it? It has no benefits. Furthermore, what reason would she have to do so in the first place? It doesn't help her in any way.
     
  3. TheHipster

    TheHipster Famous Adventurer

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    for fuck sake ganon you can't just go around suing people you don't like
     
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    orange0401 Fortified with Vitamin C HERO

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    This is murica, bitch.
     
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    (Meric) No longer edgy

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    Sooo... The final boss is the NSA?
    Bob is Snowden Confirmed

    Please no kill me u s of a
     
  6. SPYROHAWK

    SPYROHAWK Head Grand Theorist HERO

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    That's so stupid. Why would they...

    Wait...

    But what if...

    Then...


    That's actually...

    Hey, that's actually a good theory. BUT you need evidence. Don't do what I did and say things could be the case "just because". I know finals are big and all, but once they are done I want you to look into this too.

    Also the grand theorists kind of dissolved, no point bringing them up. A new theory group may be forming, but that's up in the air.
     
  7. TwageTomato

    TwageTomato Coder | Like-Giver | Tomato | Musician CHAMPION

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    1. Just because you create something doesn't mean you control it. Look at Frankenstein.
    2. She, being the power crazy Queen that she seems to be, could have been making an example of some rebels in a pre-darkness Dern.
    3. Once her punishment of the Dernic people got out of hand and she lost control, then she closed her borders to hide from her own mistakes.
     
  8. captainganon

    captainganon God of k | Derpalope VIP+

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    Your basis of two and three don't make any sense... The Fruman Queen has no jurisdiction over Dern, nor would she have any reason to a) attack dern in any way, shape, or form, or b) use the darkness to do such. Especially not if it's something she wasn't sure she could control.

    While you're right on the first point, it's illogical to say she would then use that creation. You can't tell me that the darkness somehow leaped over Wynn and purposefully only attacked Dern with absolutely no evidence.

    That leads me to my next point; this theory is practically a conspiracy theory. It has next to no evidence, and is the equivalent of writing fan fiction. Hell, you've even included the Eye of Wynn, something we've got almost no knowledge of.
     
  9. NinjaPro8000

    NinjaPro8000 Famous Adventurer

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    Moving past the obvious how this doesn't point to why Dern will come out earlier

    Here is the real reason Dern will come out first.

    Do you see Fruma past the gate?
    Do you see Dern past the abandon mines?

    NO.
    KIND OF BUT MORE THAN FRUMA.
     
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  10. Dohdo

    Dohdo I'm back. Cancer in it's purest form.

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    but why dern? Why didnt she eat wynn or gavel, or Corkus? What did dern do? Also, the villagers whisper of dern being the origin of evil, and villagers are smart, so your theory doesnt match lore.
     
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  11. TwageTomato

    TwageTomato Coder | Like-Giver | Tomato | Musician CHAMPION

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    Look, this was a crackpot theory I had that just shat itself into my head. If it ends up being right, great! If not, I really couldn't care less. This was just a brain-dump on a possibility. Make of it whatever you want.
     
  12. Yuno F Gasai

    Yuno F Gasai Forum God, FW

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    You got no evidence and you are assuming a lot.
     
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  13. Hallowynn

    Hallowynn Well-Known Adventurer VIP+

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    when was the eye introduced in the lore, by the way?
     
  14. TwageTomato

    TwageTomato Coder | Like-Giver | Tomato | Musician CHAMPION

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    I believe it is found in the basement of a house in the ancient underground city of Wynn Excavation Site D
     
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  16. Hallowynn

    Hallowynn Well-Known Adventurer VIP+

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    oh, is it? i didn't really explore the ancient city when i had the chance to, i'll look for it when i get the chance. thanks!
     
  17. NotAFish

    NotAFish An evolved jungle slime Discord Moderator CHAMPION

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    I doubt when anyone doing wynn D in the ancient city does anything but run/ride for their life
     
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    i don't think this topic is important, we will either move on to nerdier games or fucking die as we wait for fruma or dern to come out (or both of them) cya in 2025,

    That isn't a joke
     
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  19. Hallowynn

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    good one
     
  20. 3XTWISTEDTITAN

    3XTWISTEDTITAN The Traveler

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    Fear leads to anger. Anger leads to hate. Hate leads to the the dark side. Or something
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