Some Province Speculation (warning: Dern)

Very good point. Perhaps instead of Mael going towards Dern it's actually the other way around: Dern influencing Mael. I bet that he (or his father) were aware of Dern, and while most of the Twains moved away, Mael decided to help the dead pass on to neighboring Dern. If he was the only one who stayed at the manor, then I'm sure that it was because of Dern.

If that's wrong too feel free to correct me.

 

Ooorrr Dern is the place that gets hit the hardest by the Light vs Dark battle?

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Itll be 80-90 since Troms/Jungle is 70-80

 

Perhaps. But imo, it's light doing the damage this time.

...no, the jungle/troms connection is only speculation of speculation. Perhaps it's a very wide range of levels, but since levels 70-80 have enough quests already, I doubt they'd make those levels the limits.

 

I said it would be 80-90. They dont have as many quests for this lvl. Plus how would light be causing decay?

 

I don't know much about the lore, but I have come to a speculation:
As you said, maybe darkness isn't that bad, maybe the creatures of the dark see us very much like we see them. Perhaps they are scared about us, because we are so different.
I don't have proofs, but I wouldn't be surprised if The Eye was actualy chasing the Ancients (think about them as being Wynn natives), for the same reason as we, the player, chase the undead - they are invading our territories.

Sorry if this is very wrong and impossible to happen

 

My mistake, though I've said before that A Grave Mistake was located right next to Dern, and there aren't that many lower level quests either. So, in my opinion, it could easily be either one.

Oh, no worries, I actually find that very plausible to happen. Not that many issues, either, or perhaps there are issues and I'm just not seeing them (I'm new to this speculative thing too).

 

The Nether is the home of the Corruption. Darkness and Light meeting causes corruption. Therefore, Nether is not the realm of Darkness.

 

You can't confirm that. There is no official lore surrounding what exactly "darkness" is. As I said, it could be the Decay and Corruption, one of the two, or neither.

 

The Darkness and Light grew closer, but never touched...
They fight for influence over our land from afar.
However, when the two touch through influence, it is not twilight that is formed. But a land of corruption.
-Wynnexcavation Site D
It is made extremely clear here that Darkness and Light are two defined entities, and that when they meet, the corruption is formed.
While Darkness may not have a clear meaning in this, it is at least obvious that it is not the corruption, but a reactant which caused the corruption to spawn.

 

"Being immortal, we saw the effect of the realms war on Gavel. The forests to the north began to decay. The mountains began to erupt. Light, was fading."

"We were powerless, monsters began to emerge from all sorts of places we hadn't imagined. And so, the villagers set to explore lands across the sea.

"They found Wynn, a province at war. Once we discovered the bloodied history of your race, we learned about your portal."

"The portal, which opened 1000 years ago, about the same time Gavel began to decay. A clash of the realms of Light and Darkness."

These are quotes from Aldorei's Secret Part II. Wynn certainly isn't the realm of Darkness being referred to, and the portal could only refer to the Nether, so the Nether must be the realm of Darkness. The decay and corruption are products of the clash between Light and Darkness.

 

That's not what I'm referring to in the slightest. Light and Dark being two separate forces is something that's well-known, I'm not arguing on that.

Corruption 'spawned' into our world when the Nether portal was discovered. Wynn, previously a peaceful and potentially "light" province, mixed with the dark realm of the Nether could explain the corruption just as easily as anything else. I don't recall anything directly stating that the realm inside the Nether portal is the realm of corruption, but I may just be forgetful.

Furthermore, corruption is clearly a rampant malevolent force; if it were created with the the nether portal as the core source, then it makes sense that it would spread in both realms, resulting in the somewhat lack of dark-attributed features and the iconic netherrack symbolisation.

On top of even that, why would a realm of corruption have buildings and creations? The corruption clearly does not create, it only destroys and, well, corrupts. As seen in the buildings inside the Nether, which could easily be pre-corruption remnants.

As seen in Aldorei's Secret pt. 2, why would the portal be referenced as a class of light and darkness if darkness did not emanate from it?

 

Hm. In taproot, the root itself says that the root was tainted by sins. However, nowhere does it say that it was greed that was one of the sins. Although it probably was.
I don't believe that Decay is some kind of darkness. I think it's some kind of corruption. Now, this corruption looks nothing like the corruption in Wynn. This might be because it's just... different. Like how a virus might manifest itself differently in a different kind of climate.
But Gavel is the province of light. Maybe there are degrees of corruption, kinda like how there are degrees of severity in autism. Since Gavel is closer to the light, it was affected worse. But that makes no sense, as Gavel was not affected worse than Wynn (Villagers in Gavel say that).
Maybe it's kinda like karma. Since the villagers were greedy, the decay took money away from them.. but on one side. At first. We know that the decay has been growing, so it could soon encompass all of Gavel, like how the corruption has affected every part of Wynn.

This is... obvious, to say the least. We know that Wynncraft is the province of corruption. We have known that for awhile now. I would say that Darkness has an influence in Wynn, but it is corruption that is doing... well, almost everything.

In Taproot, the taproot says that beings of light wish to create a land of light and happiness, while followers of the darkness wish to destroy all.
Secondly, inhabitants of Dern (some of them, anyways) are endermen. In the quest Haven Antiquity, you see the egg of a beast... and Dern beasts surrounding it. The Dern beasts are endermen. Furthermore, there is an Ancient city. Inhabited by endermen. In it is a sign that says that the Ancients were running from something. They say that "It's not darkness, it's-" Then the words get jumbled. Many of the community believe that it is the Eye that the Ancients were running from. The Eye is an agent of the Darkness (or so we think). Wynnexcavation (and subsequently, Gavelexcavation) worship the Eye. Wynn D is where the Ancient city is found.
Also, Amadel turns into a Wither. There's another Wither in the game - in Memory Paranoia. In the dinner scene. The second Wither is (most likely) caused by the decay - or the black spoon, which.. well...
Ok, so the black spoon comes from Mr. Caritat's study. In the quest, you see Mr. Caritat go berserk, basically. Here's what he talks about:

Spoiler: What Mr. Caritat said

• Mr. Caritat: HE WHO STARTED THE WAR SHALL RISE ONCE MORE. FROM THE REALM OF SHADOWS, DECEIPT, AND PAIN.
• Mr. Caritat: FOREVER TRAPPED, FROM WHENCE HE CAME. THROUGH THE WEAK POINT BETWEEN REALMS HE. WILL. RISE. AGAIN!
• Mr. Caritat: FROM THE SOILS OF DOOM THE SERVANT LAID
• Mr. Caritat: BREAK THROUGH THE REALMS TO THE LAND OF TRADE.
• Mr. Caritat: CORRUPT THE WORLD WITH SEEDS OF PAIN
• Mr. Caritat: SO THAT HE...
• Mr. Caritat: ...MAY RISE AGAIN!

"He who started the war?" The darkness (since it invaded the Realm of Light).. but Mr. Caritat is talking as if the Darkness were personified. As if it were a "he." So he's probably talking about the Eye.
"From the Realm of Shadows." Dern. No question about it.
"Break through the realms to the land of trade." The land of trade is.. Gavel. Certainly, it is more prosperous than Wynn.
"Corrupt the world with seeds of pain." The seeds he is talking about refer to the seeds of desolation and darkness - which are implanted into the Realm of Light. And the pain thing. Pain really isn't good, as.. well... I'd say 1,000 years of suffering is enough pain.

All this makes me think that the Darkness isn't really a force to be helping things.

Ok, so Mael sends the spirits "on." This implies that it's not a travel between provinces, rather a sort of spiritual passing on. In A Grave Mistake, On is referred to as thus: "...on." In the official House of Twain lore, On is referred to as " 'On.' " With the quotation marks.
We also know that spirits go to Death's realm (it is also implied that more than just you get out of Death's realm by defeating that which killed you).
So why would spirits go to Dern? Answer: They wouldn't.

The Nether isn't canon. Canonically, you wouldn't fight in the Nether. That's where all the undead originally came from. Also, the forces of light and dark fight on this plane of existence (explained by Bob, the taproot, maybe Wynn D, Aldorei II, Aluxander or Helioron). The Nether is a separate realm. Not on this plane of existence.

Well, it makes sense that Light and Darkness themselves understand the world on a deeper, more fundamental level. So the Darkness would know that Gavel would undergo great suffering if it corrupted the Realm of Light. It corrupted the Realm of Light. So, obviously, they don't care (or at least the darkness doesn't) about casualties. It really doesn't make sense that they were forced (maybe the light was). They can't "stay" in the Nether, as you put it, as the Nether is neither a realm of light or darkness. They might not be able to exist in the Nether.
Also... "The spirits and users of realm magic come bursting out of the portal."
Spirit magic is the kind of magic Mael uses.
Mael didn't come from the portal..
And what is Realm magic? It doesn't exist in Wynn, but Gavel? The Clearsight Spectacles? The Guardian of the Forest?
Maybe.

 

he stayed cause he had no reason to leave

 

First,where is Dwendle and Rickeo?I mean Theorick is the boss of Ice Barrows and Mael is in the graveyard behind House of Twain?Are there in Gavel or somewhere else?I have been wondering where they are.....

 

I never said that Wynn was a province of Darkness, simply of neutrality. Corruption was an abridged version of this neutrality, as light and darkness are NOT neutrality. Also, it literally says "a clash of the realms of light and darkness" and that the corruption (and the undead) came through the nether portal. SO, it's completely possible that the realms of light and darkness were fighting not in the Nether like I first though (thanks @Poiu429 for correcting me on that) but in multiple places including the nether (sorry @Poiu429 for lying to you).

Speaking of @Poiu429, I'm actually extremely impressed with his analysis. It lacks a lot of holes... there are some things I'm suspicious about but I'd rather do that in another reply.

 

What about Fruma? Where do they fit into all of this Fruma could very well be a land of trade though they are closed off from the world from what we have heard Fruma is huge possibly bigger than gavel and seems to be under a dictatorship similar to what happend in Germany during the Cold War .

 

Most of the holes you talk about are just things we don't know. We assume a lot of things. There's a lot of speculation in the current lore (as the community knows it).
For instance:
In the sealed letters, Bob says he'll go fight this beast that is "far" away. We presume that the beast is the Eye, but we just don't know.
We don't even know what the Eye is. We know that Wynnexcavation worships it and that it's really important in some way. It's also in the background of the Wynncraft logo. We also presume that the Ancients were running from the Eye, but really all we know is that they were running, and it wasn't from the darkness. It might have been the darkness though. The Ancients might have mistook it for something else, or maybe didn't recognize it (or something like that). We just don't know.
My whole theory on the Decay is all speculation.
Except for that karma bit - a villager in Olux mentions the concept (although he/she doesn't say karma).
I'm not really sure if spirits go to Death's realm. Death says that you (the player) have been in his realm before. You have also, obviously, gotten out before. We do see some spirits in Death's realm, but it's definitely not enough spirits to justify 1,000 years of decay/corruption/who knows what else.
Mr. Caritat says that "he" will "break through the realms to the land of trade." The land of trade? When I was first writing my answer, I doubted that the land of trade is Gavel. Here's why: The only human settlement in Gavel is Eltom, and Eltom is illegal. If you wanted to trade in Gavel, would you live in Gavel? I don't know.
So I'm looking at Wynn right now. 100 years ago, Wynnic peoples encountered the Villagers. Eventually, they started trading, and the economy flourished (until mythics came along). Detlas, specifically, is a trading town. It was made only after the Villagers came to Wynn.
In my opinion, it makes more sense for Wynn to be the "land of trade."
Until one you comes along and debunks my theory.
There's a whole bunch of other things I could talk about..
but i dont want to write anymore
lol

 

Perhaps. Or maybe Fruma is so overpopulated that there's no room for corruption.

 

What? When has population stopped corruption as I see it corruption is not something that can really be stopped there will always be a little bit of evil to balance the good in people