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Assassin/Ninja Cataclysm Build (fire/thunder)

Discussion in 'Class Builds' started by BullTheInfinite, Mar 24, 2017.

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  1. BullTheInfinite

    BullTheInfinite do crabs think fish can fly?

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    Yea but for now, its useable and could deal good damage (theoretically) so im pretty satisfyed considering its not glass cannonish
     
  2. orange0402

    orange0402 I got exposed by pyro VIP

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    This build literally has like 10k health..... and if you hold cata (I'm assuming its decent and has 4.5k negative hp) then you will have 5.5k hp....
     
  3. Hephaestus

    Hephaestus Hypothetical Build Maker | Avos Air Arceus VIP+

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    I don't know what world you're living in, but anything less than 10K health and mediocre elemental defenses is a glass cannon here.
     
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  4. BullTheInfinite

    BullTheInfinite do crabs think fish can fly?

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    cant say anything about the health issues but im not trying to make a tank build if your expecting 1000 elemental defense per element (mediocre is normal, not glass cannon) so im living in a pretty fine world :p
    EDIT: minimum health is 6.6-7.5 k and im pretty good with 7 k personally

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    all the negative health of the cata is removed by the leo (or most of it if its the worst cata) so the health leads to the anima helm plus whatever boots you chose so i would estimate that you would get 7 k with nether scar, 7.5k with hive boots, and 6.6 with exhaustion

    EDIT: you can add more health with acessories like royal blazing amulet
     
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    Hephaestus Hypothetical Build Maker | Avos Air Arceus VIP+

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    The thing is that 7.5k health is still really, REALLY, low, and is definitely low enough to be considered a glass cannon. You'll still get basically one-shot by any strong build, especially if you have negative elemental defenses.

    I said mediocre as opposed to really good, because if you had 7.5k health but 1000 elemental defense per element that might not be too bad. (Though I suspect it still would be.)
     
  6. BullTheInfinite

    BullTheInfinite do crabs think fish can fly?

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    mediocre is mediocre, as long its not bad, its acceptable

    glass cannon health is debatable (id say 5 k or something imo)

    3/4 of 10 k im not too picky about these means (8 k or more with acessories) and usually people are dealing with pve situations (since this game is mostly based on that) rather than pvp (i should probably mention that later) (how often do you come across a strong build anyways?)(i think defense only helps with neutral damage but im sure it does something)

    for pvp combat, your an assassin... vanish

    might as well use a rainbow tank if your going for defense
     
  7. Hephaestus

    Hephaestus Hypothetical Build Maker | Avos Air Arceus VIP+

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    The average build has somewhere in between 10k to 12k health, so 7.5k is definitely a glass cannon. If you don't think so, you need to reevaluate your definitions.

    You're likely to get one-shot or nearly one-shot by Qira, and your damage can't solo her at all. Sure, you can shred most normal mobs, but you can easily do that with a significantly tankier build anyways.


    And any build needs reasonable levels of survivability. Otherwise you'll die before you have a chance to deal out your damage.
     
  8. BullTheInfinite

    BullTheInfinite do crabs think fish can fly?

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    dude, 7.5 k is still enough im very sure im not gonna get one shot from every attack that exists. plus there is still elemental defense that protects you from these kinds of things, sure there not good, but they are medium leveled and can still work unlike a glass cannon

    well your not supposed to bring an elemental build into qira anyways....

    survivability depends on play style and tactics so its not really about blow for blow styles
     
  9. Cosomos

    Cosomos Well-Known Adventurer

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    I must recommend Hephaestus Forged Leggings It would give you a max health of 12K, 250 Raw Regen(maintain a constant vanish to easily heal, 20 seconds for 1K health), 20% more walk speed, and some Fire/Thunder Damage&Defense, and 2/4 Mana Steal.
    Someone said when working with Cataclysm you don't need to focus damage, but instead Defense and Tankyness because it already has more then 50% more DPS then the second highest DPS Weapon in the game.
     
  10. BullTheInfinite

    BullTheInfinite do crabs think fish can fly?

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    good idea, thanks for the info ill add that to the list
    i just added the sancurary cause i wanna see the potential of sancurary gear since its not used so often
    also if thats the case, couldnt you go with a generic rainbow tank or something?
     
  11. orange0402

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    Not enough skill points to do it
     
  12. LarzLapiz

    LarzLapiz Avos Air Pen

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    nice
     
  13. Pokextreme

    Pokextreme Avos Air Archer HERO

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    I see more builds with it then not these days.
     
  14. BullTheInfinite

    BullTheInfinite do crabs think fish can fly?

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    rly? that not in my case, or maybe its that im not going on the builds fourms as often...
     
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    Pokextreme Avos Air Archer HERO

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    Not really in the build forums, more ingame. 2/5 of my personal builds use them.
     
  16. TheBestPudding

    TheBestPudding This is simply a distraction and you fell for it. VIP+

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    No agility Low health meh defences likely to get one shot by most builds. Basically a hit or die build?
     
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  17. BullTheInfinite

    BullTheInfinite do crabs think fish can fly?

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    sure however ya wanna put it, i havent tested it myself so idk but the defense from the give gears are alot so they gotta do sommething (right?)
     
  18. Sku

    Sku ยง HERO

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    I see an enormous list of item options without any info about accessories, skill points or powders.
    What is the build?
     
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  19. BullTheInfinite

    BullTheInfinite do crabs think fish can fly?

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    Eh, youll figure out the skill points on ur own (wynnapps or something)

    Use wynnapps for more detail or something (yea yra im lazy)"

    I really dont use powders all that much so i dunno

    I guss this build is a pretty free flowing idea, but you kinda get where im going at if that makes sense
     
  20. valvoid

    valvoid Build/CMD Hybrid HERO

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    You know what being honest this is maybe a situation where Leo could work. Here is why:

    Anima and Gaea both have a ton of water def. he can survive without a bunch of it.

    He needs the hp for sure.

    And he has enough damage anyway xD he is using cata which is op
     
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