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Cinfras - The Forgotten Hub City

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  1. SilverMirror

    SilverMirror Retired IM HERO

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    Hello I'm bored while studying my mid term so why not waste my time to make a long boring thread about why Cinfras failed to become the "Detlas of Gavel" #WallofText

    In the early days of Gavel release, we are told that Cinfras (the level 75 big city in the middle of gavel fyi not that random npc on dead island), is the hub city of gavel, the "Detlas of Gavel", and with that the player base did follow up with some trading and socialising actions going on there. However Cinfras has soon become forgotten and the player base have moved to our original trading hub city Detlas.

    So basically today I'm gonna talk about why the game failed to make Cinfras a hub city

    1- Map Design <- Biggest Problem
    The progressive map design in Gavel that every staff members are proud of are the most fatal flaw in this problem. The gavel map is designed to be progressive with minimal backtracking as possible from west to east, while this sounds cool in a linear game this is also the reason why no one stays in Cinfras. To illustrate this we can compare Gavel with Wynn (provence), in the progression from level 1-75, player are designed to repeatedly travel through Detlas, from Ragni to Detlas and then you go North for Nemract for a few levels, then go East for Almuj for a few levels, then head South for Nesaak for a few levels and stuff, you repeatedly go through Detlas, and this is why people can meet different people from different level range in Detlas and why it is a successful hub city. However in Gavel you're basically keep going East, once you get pass the quests in Cinfras there are no reason for you to head back there (beside the occasional trading that doesn't even happen anymore). This also limit the player interactions as all the players you'll meet in Gavel are just close to your level range, no occasional high level players for you to ask for tips and no noobs for you to show off. All of this is happening back on Detlas, and heres the second reason.

    2- Cool Stuff for You to Jump <- funny stuff
    If you've been to some certain other mini game server that rhymes with MineFlex, you'll notice the game lobby for every mini game have a square with stairs around that players just can't help but to run around on it while waiting for another blood bath begins. We just wants to do some mindless stuff to keep our brain active while we're waiting for another excitement. The same goes for Detlas that the pillars, the tents, the rooftops near the bank keep the player busy while chatting with friends and stuff. However in Cinfras its always awkward to socialise there (if anyone remember), standing in the middle square with nothing to jump on.

    Future and Onward
    Idk if the hub city thing is designed on purpose since day 1 but hey its there, but after all these time we can actually see a few things that can improve in creating a better version of Detlas/hub city. Such as a pvp arena designed place close by and maybe more place nearby to jump on(?)

    While Wynn is for level 1-75, Gavel is for level 40-100. Both Provence are designed for huge level range content, and available to largest player base. Since Cinfras couldn't beat Detlas, is there another chance to create a better hub city? answer is probably not. Since Corkus is already made and probably not gonna implement any of the above ideas, and its for level 80-100, Fruma is rumour to be 60 or above but thats probably coming on June 2020 and Dern won't be coming out after we all have kids (but hey at least our kids can play in dern i heard its a warm and fun place), so na the chance of a better Detlas is gone.

    Boom here's one boring thread with some bad humour (yeh i tried to be funny), actually it doesn't have any purpose at all so bye :)

    At least here's some bold text after you scrolled through the thread to see the comments!
     
    Last edited: Jan 22, 2017
  2. Snerp

    Snerp Grand Terrainer Modeler HERO Builder

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    SilverMirror Retired IM HERO

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    don't be silly you will fall into the void faster than the wandering villagers there

    dude if they make a op grind spot near ahmsord (like FH or DCave) without op mobs that kills you every 5 minutes when you're in XP armour (like black dragonlings and their hatred of being killed) I'm sure ahmsord can be popular
     
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    Nobody gives any love to Ahmsord, it seems.
    RIP Ahmsord - Always overshadowed by Rodoroc.
     
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    Snerp Grand Terrainer Modeler HERO Builder

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    WEST GAVEL SHALL FALL

    k let's keep to subject now
     
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    At first I thought this was bullshit but nvm 100% correct
     
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    I feel there's a couple other issues:
    1. Cinfras is far less safe to AFK in because clowns.
    2. It's just too big. It takes too long to get anywhere in that city, especially the airship dock.
    3. It was given the task of overthrowing a pre-established hub, which is not an easy task.
     
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    I actually really like this; you brought up some interesting points.
     
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    MinerDwarf222 I AM A DWARF. HERO

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    I just thought that Detlas was the trade hub and not Cinfras, because before the Ragni bank update, it would have been easier to have your bank classes at Detlas. So you don't have to buy tons of scrolls for your main character and can instead trade with your bank classes. Since Detlas is just a short run from Ragni vs some how making your way to Cinfras.
     
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    I believe it is because detlas tp scrolls are cheaper, its easier to get there and there are more low level players there
     
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    I think the airship to detlas should be mentioned too.
     
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    i just buy detlas scroll because i can tp to detlas, then go in airship to cinfras
    i only go there for get to the forge...
     
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    I haven't given it much thought before, but when you put it out like that, it really makes sense why Cinfras was never really fit to begin with, to be a new "Hub".

    Interesting thread, I have to say.
     
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