'just Do An Offer' 'no You Offer' So Stressfull

Can't we just make some kind of rule in this trading community and say that the buyer should do an offer? Ofcourse there are some money hungry pigs who only takes offers no matter if they are buying or selling (screw you). BUYER OFFERS

The worst thing is when the buyer asks for a price range though, they always just pick the lowest. they should ask someone else for a price range.

 

I agree! If the seller doesn't know the price, it's the buyers job to give a fair price not the seller.

 

This will ruin it since most of the time the buyer doesn't know it either. In my opinion it should stay how it is, but a little tip: as a seller you will get more buyers by listing prices (and don't list ridicioulous ones)

 

What's worse than this:

Buyer - How much?
Seller - Offer
Buyer - No u
Seller - 10le
Buyer - No.


...


...


Seller - Counter offer?

"No response"

 

Want to know why this won't work?
We will pull out some scenery simulators.

Spoiler: Scenery Simulator

1. Lower level player buys things from Higher level player:
A) Buyer does not know price -> Underpriced -> Seller has to provide price

B) Buyer does not know price -> Overpriced -> Seller does not inform them -> Buyer overpays (And recall back in your early levels, how hard is it to get one simple Liquidfied Emerald?)

C) Buyer does not know price -> Overpriced -> Seller imforms them -> Optimal Scenery
But I highly doubt that many lower level / new players even know the suitable price.

2. Higher level player buys things from lower level player :
D) Buyer does not know price -> Underpriced -> Seller doesn't know -> Lost deserved profit

E) Buyer does not know price -> Overpriced -> Seller doesn't know -> Overpaid

F) Buyer knows price but Seller doesn't -> Underpriced -> Lost profit for buyer and intentional underpricing and profit for Buyer (This is what happens most of the time, I assure you.)

G) Buyer knows price but Seller doesn't -> Overpriced -> Overpaid for Buyer and extra profit for Seller (This seldom occurs.)
Why this part has no optimal scenery is because most lower level players /new players really, really have no idea on the prices when i.

Spoiler: Problems brought upon

1- When both players don't know the price-- Well, dilemma's up.
2- If people are forced to offer, price-checkers (And those experienced merchants) will have hidden advantage as they have the knowledge around (And I doubt that many would remind someone when they are overpaying.)
3- People can offer every random things possible--And they are still considered 'offering'. See all those replies such as "I offer a potato", "I offer zhight money for xxx"?

It can be troublesome, but would be better if the rule is not added, considering that most players don't know the item prices well.

 

I used to just completely ignore people who try to play the 'I don't know/Price?' game, I suggest you do the same if you feel this strongly about it.
I don't think the rule should exist, It should be up to the shop owner how their shop works

 

A. Thats an exception
B. Thats the point
C. A low level buyer wouldn't overprice because they don't have enough money.
D. You can't blame anyone here really
E. This really never happens.
F. I don't see how this is avoidable anyways, if the seller has a set price here it would still be underpayed.
G. If the buyer wants to overpay good for him, whats your point here?

The point is, the person that does an offer less likely makes more profit, I don't want to constantly offer when I both sell and buy stuff. I think it is most fair to only offer for EITHER Sell or Buy.

 

I dont see the problem with the seller giving the price, the buyer is obviously gonna go as low as possible and then the seller denies it and gives the price they want so in the end, the seller offers the price -_-

 

Spoiler: Replies to the Scenery Simulator

A) How is this considered as an exception, when it is how most "You offer/Give me a price" conversation ends?
B) Just like your reply to F), is adding the rule in a solution to this? It is really a two-way round, happening most of the time--That is what people do for profit, is it not?
C) I am simply listing a possibility. However, this can happen and has happened before, especially on depressing items trade.
D) Simply listing another possibility, and I have no means or reason to blame anything.
E) Ditto as D).
F) Vice Versa for B), where the one who gains is the Buyer.
G) No point, because people overpays for an item under known circumstances when they want a specific item a lot, E.G. Someone buying a Locrian for 5LE from one of my fellow merchants.

I am not saying that adding the rule is going to be a total downside, but it does lead to more disadvantages-- What would you reply to the ones I have listed, and what would be your solutions to them?
And for this one--

Ah, so we are talking about profit here.
If you simply want to add this rule so that you can gain, I guess we can wrap it up here.
I don't really have much to say for it.

 

The buyer should offer, and if he/she doesn't know what to offer the seller should give a price range

 

Yea but the buyer could always play dumb and pretend not to know

 

How my life is going right now, if we're really being honest.

 

Then the seller gives a price range where he/she would be happy with

 

Yea but that's the problem cause sellers dont want that they want the buyer to offer

 

If you give your price range the buyer will just pick the lowest or near lowest. besides that you can't get over your price range if you give it. Once I was selling a Crystal in detlas. this is how it went:
Me: offer?
Buyer: idk
Me: Just do an offer please.
Buyer: give me a range
Me: ok fine, 8-10le. At the same time he said: 14le?

After that he wouldn't do 14 anymore so I sold it for 10. See how I just lost 4le for giving out my range? never doing it anymore

 

Isnt that scamming if u make him pay 14 le?

 

How would it be? I wasn't 100% sure what the price was. So I said about 8-10le. But actually it is worth a bunch more. 14le would be an OK price

 

Oh well thats fair then

 

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