Any Class How %hp Regen Actually Works

Spoiler: introduction 'n' shiz

So, there have been alot of people wondering about this. And there are alot of misconceptions.
(like, seriously, this identification gave people more questions than any other ID and that says ALOT.)

So, first of, let's look at the different ways people think this works.

Spoiler: what the wiki says

Health Regen

+X%

Adds an additional percent value every time you naturally regen health

Spoiler: most common thought on % hp regen

X% hp regen makes you regenerate X% hp faster.
If you were to normally regenerate some hp every 4 seconds, with +100% hp regen you'd do it every 2 seconds.

This does work with raw hp regen

Spoiler: some other believe

X% hp regen makes you regenerate X% hp faster.
If you were to normally regenerate some hp every 4 seconds, with +100% hp regen you'd do it every 2 seconds.

This does NOT work with raw hp regen

I could go on like this for a while.

Anyway, after testing this for a bit with the

Spoiler: amulet of rejuvenation

I've come to the conclusion that % hp regen works like this:
(see the spoiler underneath for how it actually works. ;p )

Spoiler: How it actually works

The amount of hp you regenerate without ids, is based of the amount of hp you got.
this regeneration that is uninfluenced by ids, I'll call 'base regeneration.'

% hp regen multiplies this base regeneration the same way % spell damage multiplies your spell damage.

So, like, if you regenerate 1hp each period of time you regenerate something. (1 hp might seem very low, but on my assassin it happens all the time.) You will regenerate 1 + (amountof%hpregen x 0.1)

So the formula for your hp regen =
BASE REGENERATION + (AMOUNT-OF-%HP-REGEN x 0.1) + RAW HP REGEN

(yeah, raw hp regen and % hp regen don't interact, take that @everybody, ever.

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I placed this in the builds section 'cuz I don't know any good section for it, but this information should influence people their builds.

EDIT: I think it might've been a bit biased to use 1hp as base, when I wanted to show the effectiveness of % hp regen.

Spoiler: A calculation with a base of 80

Whilst less common, 80 hp regenerated happens quite alot, actually.

using the amulet of rejuvenation, again.
(2000% (amulet) + 100% (base)= 2100%, that's why I multiply with 21)

21 x 80 = 1680
And that's just using the percent hp regen.
SO KEEP IN MIND THAT I'M NOT STATING THAT %HP REGEN IS USELESS! I, MYSELF USE THE AMULET OF REJUVENATION IN MY BUILDS.

Spoiler: Examples of endgame builds with the amulet of rejuvenation.

Spoiler: warrior

blue mask
gravity
gemini
fermion

Prism
Prism
morph-amethyst
morph-ruby

Praesidium

Spoiler: assassin

Morph-stardust
Gravity
Dionaea
Statue

Morph-Emerald
Morph-Emerald
Morph-Amethyst
Amulet of rejuvenation

Sreggad

(yeah, it's basically only useful for cactus builds, but so what? It's still useful.)

Also, this thread got chosen by Jane as one of the best threads in the wynncraft section. 0_0
https://forums.wynncraft.com/threads/the-spotlight-episode-1.166112/#post-1891662

 

I really want to know how this works, but I'm still kinda confused.
For example, if you had +200 raw regen and +50% regen, would it go like this?

BASE + 0.1*PERCENT + RAW -> 1+5+200 -> 206 regen

If so, the % health regen seems almost useless except for items that have a ton of it like Phoenix Wing or Exhaustion.

 

yup, that's how it works. %hp regen is basically useless.

Trust me, even the amulet of rejuvenation doesn't give great hp regen. ;_;

 

So uh for example, EXACTLY AS SALTED SAID
%hp regen gives the most benefit when you are low hp, as your base regen increases as you have lower hp

 

When I was low health, it healed me like 2k O_o

 

Yeah. I've never felt any difference having %hp regen or none.
How funny would that be though if amulet of rejuvenation actually multiplied your hp regen by 20?
2000% Kappa

 

But then would having negative %HpRegen still influence your regeneration or no?

 

yeah, that's exactly what he said. ;p

than again, people (like me) just either didn't get what he ment, or didn't know he said it. So I tested it anyway, and he actually spoke the truth

It does multiply your base hp regen by 21 (Kappa) 2000% (amulet) + 100% (base) = 2100%
(and it gives that 80 raw hp regen)

My guess is that it'll take away hp from the base regen. Let's say you use this specific

Spoiler: heroism

• Slots: 2
• Health: +3200
• ✹ Fire Defense: 50
• ❋ Air Defense: 50

• Lv. Min : 96
• Agility Min: 70
• Defense Min: 70

• Health Regen: -150%
• Life Steal: +23/4s
• Reflection: +12%
• Agility: +10
• Defense: +4
• Thorns: +6%
• Speed: +8%
• Health Bonus: +980
• Soul Point Regen: +4%
• Health Regen: -6

and let's also say that you'll have a base regeneration of 20.
Than I guess that you'll get 20 - 1.5 x 20 = 20 - 30 = -10 hp regen.
(than add the raw negative health regen on it for -16 hp regen.)

IT'S VERY MUCH WORTH TESTING, THOUGH! SADLY I DON'T POSSES ANY HIGH NEGATIVE %HP REGEN ITEMS, IF ANYONE DOES POSSES SAID ITEMS AND IS WILLING TO TEST IT, PLEASE TELL ME THE RESULTS, I'LL PUT IT IN THIS THREAD AND CREDIT YOU.

 

Where the hell can I get that amulet 0_O

 

You can get it in aldorei town for '25 magical feathers'

Magical feathers are dropped by phoenix's and I believe some other mobs in the canyon of the lost.

 

Ok thanks :D like

 

@creature
I Believe on that same post Salted made, he said that the regen slows down with negative numbers

 

Ok now wtf is base regen (1?)

 

Could you link me to that post? I'd like to add it to the thread.

erhmhm explaining base regen...

^ this is the definition I gave to base regen.

Spoiler: a little bit more explained.

Let's say you're an assassin with 400 hp. You got no agility, defense, identifications, etc.

And let's say that you'll now get hit by something for 200 damage.
You now have 200 hp left.
After a 'little while'*, you will regenerate 'some'** hp.
Let's say you'll regenerate 5 hp. Making you have 205 hp left, instead of 200.

THIS 5 WOULD BE YOUR BASE REGEN

(The 'little while'* and 'some'** are both determined by the amount of total hp you got and how much %hp you got left. I'm afraid that I don't know the calculations for them, though.)

 

i was going to contribute to this thread but then you had to do maths

 

Wait why is this in class builds?