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The Mythic System Is Rigged

Discussion in 'Wynncraft' started by DiloQueen, Nov 19, 2016.

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  1. Salted

    Salted Game Design & Wynncraft Founder Staff Member Admin GM CHAMPION

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    You know, when Apple released the iPod (or around that time), the "shuffle" option was a way to truly get a random song everytime. However, people complained that it wasn't "random enough" as they often got the same songs and sometimes never heard others. So they changed it to be less random to make it feel more random, if that make sense to you. For some reasons (and it's not your fault or anyone's), humans like to see patterns in anything, including randomness, something that can be very hard to predict.
    Randomness is really random, you could literally get 20 mythics a day for months if you are very lucky, or never even see one.

    Now, we do cheat very slightly so you guys get more interesting stuff, but in the end it's still mainly based on chance.
     
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    Glamazon_ *SCREAMS IN HOMOSEXUAL* VIP

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    Finding a mythic is as random as getting beaten up in public
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    My comparison is op
     
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  3. Son_Omega_Dan

    Son_Omega_Dan Meow HERO

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    @SageBuilds, if you stayed as a mod, you would have fixed the grammar of OP. It's killing me ;-;
     
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  4. DiloQueen

    DiloQueen 100 Mage 100 Assassin 100 Hunter 100 Mage VIP

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    im not giving up C:
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    well thank you for an honest answer tho salted!!
     
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    NinjaPro8000 Famous Adventurer

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    Saw the title of this thread,

    Finally decided trump ruined the word "rigged"
     
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    Jamieverse Legendary Adventurer VIP

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    And don't worry I haven't found a mythic either.​
     
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    Twin Lotus Straw Hat VIP+

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    I've had 130% loot bonus for months as I searched for a Mythic-tier item, going from grinding in Freezing Heights to daily runs of opening Loot Chest III to never find one.

    Then came that one moment when I was so desperate for not a Mythic-tier item, but a damn Thunder Powder III. I didn't even care about the Mythics at this point, I just became really frustrated over the fact that I couldn't add a Thunder Powder IV to my Black. I only wore my Jester Bracelet and my normal offensive set, totaling up to only 7% loot bonus.

    Next thing you know I was going for some Sky Islands Loot Chest III and I stumbled upon one chest that looked really empty but ended up having the first Warchief on the server (as of the search bar).

    Moral of the story, don't expect a Mythic. I learned this from one guy (on the forums that I forgot the name of) beforehand but I never really took it into consideration until I actually found one. Like truly don't expect one, just go for some other stuff like Wybel weapons, really sick legendaries or powders to add to your equipment that you never really used powders on.
     
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  8. XavierEXE

    XavierEXE ♪ Wynncraft's Composer and Ability Tree Lead ♫ ♪ Music Item Team CHAMPION

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    Mainly?
    I don't like this part that says it's "mostly" chance. Can you elaborate?
     
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  9. Salted

    Salted Game Design & Wynncraft Founder Staff Member Admin GM CHAMPION

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    Nothing scary, don't worry. I don't want to be too precise, but if you were to track all of your loot over a long period of time, you might see something. Maybe not though, loots are always randomly selected, but we sometimes tip the scales in your favour ever so slightly.
     
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  10. XavierEXE

    XavierEXE ♪ Wynncraft's Composer and Ability Tree Lead ♫ ♪ Music Item Team CHAMPION

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    So, shit legendaries with shit ids and no mythics whatsoever?
    I see the trend now! =D
     
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  11. DCM627

    DCM627 Recluse of a Blue Slime HERO

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    SaltEXE, calm down a little...
     
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  12. Cosomos

    Cosomos Well-Known Adventurer

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    So basically they added a system of keeping track of songs played and gave songs that have been played the least a higher chance and songs they played the most a lower chance. A system like that would be possible to make for Wynncraft, but that would require calculating variables like chests opened, mob's killed, and keeping track of the every item you have gotten. Not only would all your previous data be useless, but you would maybe even have to have it be per class too. All that would take up memory and time to code, what is more even with that people would still complain. Althought, everyone wants to find at least 1 mythic in their time in Wynncraft, the chances of finding a mythic is so small that going on loot runs really have almost no impact on whether you get one or not.
     
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    Omnoid Pretty inactive, discord Omnoid#9644 HERO

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    It's totally luck I once spent 17le breeding horses, and All I got was 1 brown, now 2 days ago I spent 4.4le and got 1 chestnut 1 black and 1 brown
     
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    I myself have also been playing for a little over 3 years, and have yet to find a mythic.

    Also, I believe that loot bonus % only increases the quantity, not the quality.
     
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    Cosomos Well-Known Adventurer

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    Still the more times a dice is rolled the more chances you have of getting the magic number
     
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    FrameTimeMC High IQ person, Low IQ gamer. VIP+

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    Loot bonus doesn't affect the stuff that you find in the chest, times do. More time a chest don't get open, more the loot will be op and you have more chance to find a mythic. Also 0,0007% is not so rare, everyone on the server found a mythic right? :D
     
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    Kraetys Hater of Catipalism - Certified Nyanarchist HERO

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    This is BS I get beat up in public way more than I find mythics.
     
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  18. XavierEXE

    XavierEXE ♪ Wynncraft's Composer and Ability Tree Lead ♫ ♪ Music Item Team CHAMPION

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    I wish.
     
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    Argagaes Well-Known Adventurer HERO

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    What you just described sounds random. The beauty of rng is that a single person could get 20 mythics in a row (20 kills -> 20 myths).
    Even if it was rigged (which it's not) how would the players be selected? Why a new guy like you told? There are people who have won multiple lotteries. It sure as hell isn't fair, but not rigged either.
    You should quit doing loot runs if u just want a mythic and buy one instead.
    It's a bit like how in wow ppl have killed bosses over 400 times and not gotten the 1% chance drop they want, while some got a 0.01% drop on the first kill.
    IT'S CALLED RANDOM.
    Your shit luck doesn't make the system unfair. You just make it seem like so to yourself. How many other people have done what u have or more and never gotten a mythic? Probably more than u'd think.
     
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