In the News Trump Or Clinton

Trump says he's self funding his entire campaign yet he has 2 donate buttons on his site and has only donated 7 million to his campaign
not to mention trump has been accused of being a racist NUMEROUS times in the past
and if you think he's a buisnessman he's been bankrupt 8 times and has caused many people to lose thousands

 

As you wish.

So, the Trump foundation is what the name suggests: a "foundation" created by Trump.
However, Trump didn't exactly use the money for charity. He essentially spent $10,000 to create an detailed portrait of himself. That's would've been fine if it was being sold for charity money... But it's hanging on the wall of his restaurant.

I decided to do some research (using only newspaper articles, don't call bs sources), and it turns out he also spent $12,000 on a football helmet signed by a former quarterback (Tim Tebow). He then spent $20,000 on a 6-foot-tall portrait of himself (talk about geocentricism), totaling to approximately $42,000.

But wait, there's more! Apparently, he spent another $258,000 on legal disputes and bribed Florida's Attorney General with $25,000 to head off an investigation of Trump University (Another scam, and not even legally a 'university'). The new total is around $325,000.

So $325,000 of charity money was spent for Trump's personal gain. Pair that with his other scams. Trump is something called a "Robber Baron", meaning a capitalist who got extremely rich through unethical means, many of which are corrupt.

 

most trump supporters don't want him because he's a business man.
most trump supporters don't care that he is racist.
we don't want true evil to be in charge.

 

I love debating politics on minecraft forums, there is so much intelligent discussion here

 

https://twitter.com/meladoodle/status/788916765644337155
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Okay, let's just analyze the Clinton campaign. Hillary has supported Haiti, but created parks and posh hotels instead of actual things to help people directly hurt by the earthquake. The president of senate in Haiti has said that Hillary bribed him and that less than 2% went to them. Plus, multiple sources said she was only helping people who paid her heaps of money and little went to charity. Saudi Arabia and other countries who oppose women's rights pay big bucks to Hillary and they gain benfits. If you want, look up "pay-to-play", it has information on this stuff. It's quite depressing, really, and it's actually being covered in the debate right now! It's corruption, and a few of those things pale in comparison to 25 million dollars Saudi Arabia gave and was playing with Hillary by playing.

 

k back to the show.

First, I do not see how that relates the what you're quoting. Also, is that so? Besides, he's been evading it ever since it was brought up. If not paying taxes make him smart, does that make every tax payer unintelligent?

Also, are we to ignore the fact that he's probably the meanest person I know (why does that word make me feel childish?). He has insulted basically everyone who isn't a Trump Supporter by now. (By the way, the majority of Republican Party 'leaders' (Officials? idk the term) have turned against Trump, which may be the only time this has ever happened. Bear in mind these are people who actually have a vague idea what they're doing)

I don't see how that defends Trump. He, too, is corrupted, but by his wealth. He's seldom done anything that he gains nothing from. It's not that hard.

Again, will we ignore that he's the least honest person to ever run for president also a male politician did an email scandal but went a lot further with burning the evidence. Nobody batted an eye, I call sexism on that one.

 

Obama got Gay marriage legalized... unless I heard it wrong, he is part of the federal government, as he is the president. And tbh, even if this is the case, I hate a lot of trumps stupid policies, and not only that, he is actually racist to an extent, and he's shown that he has been sexist to an extent, and people just pass over that. The president ian't just the one who does things involving laws, and leads the army, etc. The president is a leader and representitive of the country... Donald Trump... being racist to an extent, and being sexist to an extent... WHAT THE HELL would that say about America??? Like, wtf...
Not only that, but if he becomes president, there is no telling how corrupt that would be? The majority of the government can be corrupt to hell and back at times... including state governments... rich people pay the government money, or presidential canidates canidates money for the beliefs the canidates or officials show... that means there is a majority of people who are rich, and snotty, if a rich person becomes president, then the views they have, which are usually anti something, could become real. And if the government is majority on their side, then that means that it's unbalanced, and this also means that there would be probably more strict rules surrounding their beliefs... the government has always been fucked up.

While yes for the most part these things are state decided, if the government decides on a rule, then they could enforce it nationwide... and state governments ARE FEDERAL they are just a little lower branch.

 

Hillary has insulted at least 25% of Americans calling them Deplorables, insulting tens of thousands of Americans by hating everyday Americans, and her campaign is insulting 83% of Americans by saying Catholics (and mostly Conservative) have been doing an amazing bastardization of the faith. They have insulted black people in the past too. They have insulted MORE people than Trump by far, and you can thank good ol' WikiLeaks for this.

 

So we're going by past as opposed to present, I see? One of the things I find most intolerable about many people: they only care about what happened years ago, but they do not regard what kind of person someone is in the present, even IF that's the only thing that matters.

 

I don't see your point. both the trump and Hillary side on this thread are using points from the past to prove our argument.

 

Though I may disagree with some of your opinions, I respect your thoughts on his side. He is rambunctious, and he says things he shouldn't. I feel he could be insulting (and to a degree, most of us do). However, we will cover gay marriage and the federal government. The dissenting opinion of the Supreme Court states that it had nothing to do with the Constitution. It's true that the Supreme Court ruling has to do with the 14'th amendment, but the 10'th amendment states that powers not delegated to the federal government are for the state. That means this is somewhat unconstitutional. Again, our president SHOULD help legalize LGBT marriage in America, because as said in the statements, "No union is more profound than marriage, for it embodies the highest ideals of love, fidelity, devotion, sacrifice and family... In forming a marital union, two people become something greater than they once were." This is what marriage SHOULD be, and its a wonderous thing. However, it's the state's decision, and it should be suggested by the President, not force it on them. Let the states decide for themselves, and plus if anything, you can get married in a LGBT legal state, and booyah, other states have to respect that decision of marriage. It's a weird fix, but it works in favor of everyone.

If I already haven't proven it as well, state and federal are separate. The federal government works on things that the states don't, such as national defense and the national postal service. The state works on things like roads and marriage, which the latter is the important one here. It's called delegated and reserved powers.

All right, I'm done for today! Possibly may fight again tomorrow, but it's time for bed, and the NX news is killing me plus practice for Kaledesh Game Day. See you maybe tomorrow, depressing people.

PLEASE KILL ME NOW.

 

you seem to think of it as everyone bashing trump loves hillary
it's not that way
both canidates are terrible but you seem to think trump has a shred of good in him

 

I just want him because I don't want Hillary to win. its the opposite with you I guess. its not like I adore trump but I just don't want someone that you cant trust and flip flops their opinion to be a president. I don't really care that trump has offended people since I'm pretty light hearted. in fact I'm in one of the categories that he does not like and offends constantly. it doesn't really affect my opinion.

 

trump has flip-flopped his opinion numerous times and "has offended people" he has been constantly bigoted and evil and has been a horrible person overall
he has the vote of a KKK leader so let that say something about his campaign which is entirely based around xenophobia and racism
and btw: I don't want hillary or trump (drumpf) to win

 

@Pretzule I sense a flame war coming
perhaps it would be wise to lock for now

 

Oh boy politics, the best flame war material. I'm gong to close this.